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skty
post Apr 7 2021, 11:37 AM

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Sometimes To Do Nothing At All, Is The Most Difficult Thing In The World

I would like to admit that 2021 is a much harder year to invest compared to 2020. The market are choppy and volatile, underlying current in the market does not point towards a clear signal and there is no doubt a sense of uncertainty. It would appear the conviction towards a "pure recovery play" isn't as straight forward as it may be compared to what was projected by research houses at the end of 2020 & the start of 2021. I believe once again this has a lot to do with the economic policies in place and political uncertainty.

Before I make an investment decision, usually I start outwards then move inwards. I look at the macroeconomic indicators or signal before zooming into the sector or particular company. I do not believe in "Random Walk Theory". This is where the struggle happens when there is no clear picture. In addition, if there is a polarising view in the market between two forces (bull or bear) especially in almost equal weightage, then it would definitely result in the kind of market we are observing today.

Generally the major conflicting view in the market today is as the following :

1. Strong Recovery / Reopening play vs prolonged recovery / reopening
2. Growth vs Value
3. Commodities supercycle vs short term squeeze
4. Strong Dollar vs Weak Dollar

This results in a choppy and volatile market until a majority takes a view in the same direction whether down or up. Taking wisdom from Oscar Wilde, sometimes as investors, the best thing and hardest thing to do is not to do anything. By not acting, and merely observing, you can wait for a clearer picture and better opportunity to come along. You may miss some upside but you protect your downside. This is also applicable to when you are holding a wonderful company but the share price is dropping irrationally through no fault of anyone. Holding and doing nothing is also the right thing to do. To give an example, I have huge confidence in Hartalega but glove stocks sentiment have been weak of late whether rational or otherwise. If I am looking at the share price daily, I may be tempted to either buy more, average down or to cut loss. However, should I decide to not act, it may be the best decision as I would not need to be concern for additional price weakness and any upwards movement, I already stand to benefit. Of course, if you are confident and have spare cash in hand, any price weakness would be a good opportunity provided you believe in your investment thesis.

What I am sharing is my view towards an overall investment approach in a market that is directionless. There is no need to be eager to transact and make an investment decision every single day. Surely, this point of view is not shared by brokerage houses or banks as it would mean lesser transaction fees or income. This is the beauty of being a small retail investor. You get to choose your investment opportunities as and when you see fit with no external pressures such as being a fund manager that is required to deliver returns to clients every quarter. Do not forget the advantage of being a small retail investor.

Source : www.tradeview.my


This is for INVESTMENT read.

Key words that I always been stressing in my previous posts:
1) macroeconomy is the most important to look at before look into the sector and company.
2) there is NO random walk theory. That book is !@$!%$^ to me.
3) investing is you need to have the ABILITY and CRITERIA before you can do investing. DO NOT APPLY FUNDAMENTAL IN TRADING AND HOPE FOR RESULT.

I am not arrogant but I have certain standard and I don't simply think anyone is good. This guy has standard in investing.

I have the advantage of CA than most investors out there so I know what is coming. This is the reason why I don't INVEST at this point of time. I do TRADING.

This post has been edited by skty: Apr 7 2021, 11:50 AM
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post Apr 7 2021, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Apr 7 2021, 11:42 AM)
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This one is from Tradeview. Do you agree with his views?

I think most of his articles make sense, just that some are over optimistic.
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updated with my view but my view is not important.

your view is more important because it will control your behavior and actions.
skty
post Apr 7 2021, 06:02 PM

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today is a good day. majority of my holdings go to another support level.

becareful with Russia VS Ukraine.
skty
post Apr 8 2021, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 8 2021, 03:56 PM)
I am selling off all my glove stock in stages in view of the spike this week and today.

Good bye glove stocks. Until next time. smile.gif
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people tend to forget your advise earlier.

well done. thumbsup.gif
skty
post Apr 8 2021, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 8 2021, 04:02 PM)
Lady Luck took pity on me for the 1000 times.

I survived another round of slaughter and rebound...again.  blush.gif
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no love for 3.5?
skty
post Apr 8 2021, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 8 2021, 04:09 PM)
For Top Glove you mean? Wah, want to test until RM3.50? My heart cannot take it.  biggrin.gif
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you got bullet now. no love to collect at 3.5?
skty
post Apr 8 2021, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Apr 8 2021, 04:32 PM)
I dunno. The current climate in the country looks a bit dicey.

Some people forget that we are still technically in a state of emergency. No Parliament in session. Possible GE in a few months' time. Possible change of PM and change in government again.

All these factors do weigh in my mind. Maybe I am too cautious...or too old..or both!  biggrin.gif
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today BURSA RM4.89bil transactions. Long time no see such amount already.
skty
post Apr 8 2021, 05:43 PM

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One last push.

Actually I feel fear when I see gloves spike.

Maybe it’s better for me to gradually reduce all my holdings and stay in the sideline from Bursa.
skty
post Apr 10 2021, 10:33 PM

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https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy...409-p57hp3.html

This author has standard in his/her macroeconomy knowledge and experience compare to 90% of analysts/bankers in the world.

This is all I am talking about all these time. Whether continue to have COVID-19 or not, it makes no difference. Majority people believe government’s painting of happy ending when vaccines are discovered. How naive.

One thing that I don’t agree is the critical interest should not be less than 3%. Let’s see Powell’s bullshit can last how long.
skty
post Apr 12 2021, 05:22 PM

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wa... kudos to KGB holders...

time tested again and again.

how far can it go? I holding the ticket to watch the show.



today some of my green in my portfolio is washed off. Some turned to red.

weekend penny stock news give them chance to do washing machine. I saw many people start cutting loss. Get frighten by the magnitude of washing.
skty
post Apr 13 2021, 04:20 PM

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Finally sold and clear all SMRT after 4 weeks of holding...

Doesn't reach my TP yet but I clear first with acceptable profit.

Shift focus to Raya stock.

Tomorrow is the 2nd last day for one of my penny stock to move. If still no move, need to sell back at cost price back to the operator...
skty
post Apr 13 2021, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Apr 13 2021, 04:47 PM)
nice, what was yr entry price?

how many percentage of total portfolio is this particular trade?

what is raya stock?

what do u think of KPPROP?
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1) 0.140 at support...

2) 10%...

3) potential to spike during raya...

4) got invisible hand behind. cornered. next few days got chance... I saw some collection on 22-23 March, 31 March and today. Thank you. I will observe this stock.

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post Apr 13 2021, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Apr 13 2021, 05:05 PM)
namely?
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haha... cannot say la...

this kind of situation, if the operator sense more people getting on the truck, they will just park there few more months...
skty
post Apr 14 2021, 04:40 PM

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lucky today manage to get matched my buy queue for one hari raya stock.

been queuing for few days already.

morning matched. Afternoon operator already start pushing....

another hari raya stock last week bought. today suddenly gap up. Then selling pressure come in where all previous trapped retailers selling when breakeven.

market going crazy soon...

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post Apr 14 2021, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Apr 14 2021, 04:48 PM)
Aiya, my KGB losing steam again before market closing. Any faithful shareholders still holding? 💪
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I am still holding.

some trapped souls have free themselves today. thumbup.gif


QUOTE(RiriRuruRara @ Apr 14 2021, 04:49 PM)
lol can share what is this hari raya stock??
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bunch of rubbish stocks. better don't touch if don't want to burn hands.

you see how glove rally last week, you know the doom day is near. laugh.gif
skty
post Apr 14 2021, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Apr 14 2021, 05:20 PM)
hari raya stocks or pilihan raya stocks?
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hari raya. laugh.gif


QUOTE(howyoulikethat @ Apr 14 2021, 05:32 PM)
My stand is still the same, i.e. hold for 1 year or 2.  cool2.gif  Unless KGB goes berserk to RM4, don't think I'm selling now. I believe growth story in semicon chip shortage (SMIC) & venturing into industrial gas.

But honestly feel that PE 45 for KGB might be kinda excessive as compared to previous years' PE.  blush.gif
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QUOTE(Kar Weng @ Apr 14 2021, 05:39 PM)
I’m planning to hold for longer term too, but it seems like the PE is in its historical high. Let’s see how it goes in the next few QRs.
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looking at PE mean you guys are doing value investing?

if yes, then shouldn't touch KGB.


QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Apr 14 2021, 05:51 PM)
I've already cut half when it was pit low 1.8. My balance holding now I will hold until whenever, no rush to sell since can't make up for what I've cut loss earlier, lol...of course, seeing it breakeven now is better than in red.
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sorry for that but everyone eventually will have to go through the process of buy high and sell low for experience.

the reason you buy must also be the reason you sell, cannot change no matter in investing or trading. From your action, I can't figure out what's your reason that you bought KGB.
skty
post Apr 15 2021, 06:43 PM

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doom day today!

lucky I anticipated it when I saw glove surge last week and start clearing my holdings.

too bad can't clear all in time. doh.gif

I see glove sentiment is back. People are talking about gloves again.

the story repeat again. Never change. No matter what.
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post Apr 15 2021, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(westernkl @ Apr 15 2021, 07:52 PM)
Glove BBB UUU again??
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what is BBB UUU? confused.gif
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post Apr 15 2021, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Apr 15 2021, 08:56 PM)
Buy Buy Buy Up Up Up!
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thank you! thumbsup.gif

QUOTE(dickybird @ Apr 15 2021, 09:19 PM)
lol
holdings of what?
like they say, hindsight is perfect
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QUOTE(skty @ Apr 8 2021, 05:43 PM)
One last push.

Actually I feel fear when I see gloves spike.

Maybe it’s better for me to gradually reduce all my holdings and stay in the sideline from Bursa.
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start clearing since 9 Apr. Mostly rubbish stocks. laugh.gif

start going into gold related counters with the funds.
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post Apr 16 2021, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(pinksapphire @ Apr 15 2021, 11:42 PM)
Some luggages can be left behind when you realised you can't carry them all. I did just that today, sold some Smax to reduce my portfolio in gloves. Painful, but necessary. And will keep trimming until it's no longer a significant portion.
I hate to CL and can afford to hold long term, but, I guess the sentiment part of it makes me just prefer to reduce my holdings in gloves and diversify my portfolio further so I can have a balanced spread across multiple sectors. Since I'll miss gloves if I sell all, I'll still keep and sell some during spikes, like today.
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You moved forward one step to an improved version of yourself.

Never afraid to CL after you made a mistake to buy a stock at a price that is good for trading but not investing.

Trading is doing everything opposite of investing. Don't mix it up again.

Few years later when you look back, those money lost are negligible compare to the money that you have earned. thumbsup.gif

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