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post Mar 14 2021, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Mar 14 2021, 08:26 AM)
now people expect glove companies to go bankrupt after covid pandemic.

so glove would only get its real true value after the pandemic.
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Is there really people expect glove gonna bankrupt? Lmao. 🙄
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post Mar 30 2021, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Mar 30 2021, 02:54 PM)
I'm more interest in EV supporting industry rather than EV.

With all major automobile maker chasing the EV space, with GM, Ford, VW all spending Billions to upgrade and refit their factory.

There is a big demand for machinery and capital equipment. You know just like how schlumberger is the supporting player for those O&G exploration boom in the oil heydays.
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Rare earth mineral company for supply side of ev. Have look around those companies?
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post May 7 2021, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ May 6 2021, 04:30 PM)
Just use your calculator and you already know can buy or not.

If ASP start tanking now to below $50, slowly towards $30 around year end, then you can kiss glove goodbye already. It doesnt matter how much capacity you have because when it is all over, there will be tonnes of excess capacity. Just a note, pre covid utilisation rate of most glove makers is just around 60-70%.

Supermax is kinda easy to calculate what. 26b gloves annually... 48b by end of 2022.

Q2 supposedly 26b x $0.09 (USD90 per 1000) x RM4.1 x 1/4 (Q2 2021) = almost RM2.4b
But they reported 2b... ok...maybe like they said, kena close down due to covid not working, so lower output.

Next quarter ASP how much then? if average $80 (since they said January is highest at $90), then

26b x $0.08 x RM4.1 x 1/4 = RM2.13b revenue (wait n see)

If starting 2022 ASP drop to $30 for example

26b x $0.03 x RM4.1 x 1/4 = 800m revenue

Lets said Supermax is really fast and managed to install another 5b capacity in the next 6 months...

31b x $0.03 x RM4.1 x 1/4 = 953m

Profit margin berapa? Most indicator said glove price now = 4x pre covid. Precovid $22.5, profit are shitty. None of them are making a billion a year, let alone a billion a quarter.
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Thanks for the analysis!
I think many glove holder had hard day yesterday. Guess probably there is some rebound today.

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post May 10 2021, 09:38 AM

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Plantation engine start already.. Nobody talking about it?
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QUOTE(squarepilot @ May 10 2021, 11:28 AM)
Somehow remembered gark when being a silent reader last time
He was quite well verse and gung-ho on plantation counter
Maybe he retired rich for good
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Hmm haven't seen comment in this forum like few years already.
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post May 17 2021, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ May 17 2021, 03:30 PM)
Holding on bagholding so many stocks!

when will bursa recovers from this?
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Which? Techs?
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post May 19 2021, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ May 19 2021, 12:14 PM)
Wow look at bitcoin. Dropped to 40k already. Market crashing soon?
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It will affect stock market too. Especially tech stocks somehow related to coins price
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post May 19 2021, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ May 19 2021, 12:41 PM)
What I am afraid is the economy crisis given the inflation rate cry.gif
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focus more on commodity,gold counter? hmm.gif
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post Jun 28 2021, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Jun 28 2021, 09:39 AM)
wah sai sea of blood, mydin announcement scare everyone. good time to buy now.
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Hmm business prospect indeed getting poorer day by day.

Epf is desperate throw more shares In open market.

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post Jun 28 2021, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Jun 28 2021, 10:31 AM)
time to pick up bargain
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Bargain or more trap. 🤔
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post Jun 30 2021, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(renee78 @ Jun 30 2021, 09:39 AM)
I yesterday noticed Malaysia stock market is around the same level as in June 2020. Many stock markets are now far higher than in June 2020.

I guess the big problem here is the foreign selling for the past few years.
Is there still hope for the Malaysia stock market?
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foreign selling

local institution like khazanah and epf desperate need money

retailer arguably are the net recent buyer months? sweat.gif

My other portfolio in HK and US stocks all without doing much also doing well ( didnt even do detail analysis just close eye buy the bigs one).

the only stock I hold for klse market I did analysis last year with full report reading plus I am currently as in the sector working still losing money. mega_shok.gif sweat.gif

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post Jul 8 2021, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 8 2021, 05:51 PM)
Any bearish news globally except for malaysia?
only HSI very bearish recently
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Do u notice that many senior trader and investor very quiet in this forum especially recent few months?

Many cashing out since few months back
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post Jul 9 2021, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Jul 8 2021, 08:09 PM)
well, market can choose to stay irrational for a very long time
Perfect recipe for disaster

what could make KLCI go down further?

CPO. SIME,PPB,IOI,KLK,Hapseng. they are the KLCI supporter now. do note CPO is still on the high side
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CPO is close to 4k for quite a while but most of the blue chips plantation and second liner unable to move. Very bad symptoms of this country honestly.

I am from industry, still clueless why plantation counter is going downward instead of upward. The only possible explanation is big institutional is disposing.
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post Jul 9 2021, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 9 2021, 09:17 AM)
If u calc Whole Plantation's latest PE and compared it with it's Last 4Q, you will notice latest PE about 9.7% higher, indicating plantation growth is -9.7%, negative growth sectors should be avoided. Such info is already available publicly average 43 days ago.

and that's how to read the chart to the right side, not to the left. I don't have to be in the industry to know this, don't try to interpret what is not there.

high CPO price does not translate to high earning because this is stock and you are not trading the futures, hope i've solved your mystery that has been bugging u.
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You have your point. But i will stick to my position. Let's look at this end of this year again.
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post Jul 9 2021, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(wayton @ Jul 9 2021, 09:31 AM)
CPO double, but cooking oil is not rising as same magnitude
Plantation companies have also refining business, mostly have.

They gain on CPO if sell CPO, but not good for its refining segment profit.
So total profit not rise as same as CPO.
+ rising cost of fertilizer due to hike in petrochem product
+ shortage worker, rising labour cost.

So it is not the same with glove blooming.
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There are planter mostly focus on upstream activities... Choose those
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 9 2021, 09:32 AM)
and then if you see.... planters like HSPLant...

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for me... all i see is the lumpy and inconsistent earnings... wink.gif

would I want to bet on this one?
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There is consistent earning in commodity business? Really something new to me lol
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 9 2021, 11:42 AM)
And this is HSPlant chart...

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for a stock it has already done pretty darn well since a year ago...
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If take from March 2020 I remember sharp decline due to market crash that few weeks. Not really a good indicator since most unaffected covid industry almost rebound like this. Left alone the glory days of glove and techs.

I expect much more than this.. Let's see next few months.

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post Jul 15 2021, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 15 2021, 09:50 AM)
bursa is finally green today.

nobody's happy?! laugh.gif
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Down 15% these few days give u back 2% lol
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 15 2021, 10:04 AM)
No posting for >19 hours on trading days reflect /k sentiment on bursa.

occasional rain in drought is certain to bring a change in mood.
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Last time glove bull I remembered ppl post during Saturday and Sunday midnight lol
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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jul 20 2021, 02:05 PM)
The counter argument is that the current regulatory intervention is short term negative but long term will make the sector more sustainable.

China tech adoption is not turning back n will continue to grow. In addition, the push  to reform from manufacturing export economy to one of domestic consumer services will also continue. These are long term trends and bullish tech sector.

Of course that's the bull story la.. It could be bs also. I won't be refinancing my house n putting into China tech.
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Agreed. The big techs (not only china but US is the main one) should have another decade to grow bigger. Yes there is gov intervention, but it is good chance to get some during a deeper correction.

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