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oOoproz
post Nov 28 2016, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 28 2016, 09:10 AM)
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So true.

They say branding is everything and the one thing Tony has gotten right is that he's created a really solid brand name.
And that's the catch isn't it?
Global brand name mah...
Naturally many would simply fall in luv with it....
And many times....
in most such cases...
rational reasoning goes out of the window.... tongue.gif
As we all know...
brand names do not necessary make good stocks.
Some do... some don't.
They have their risk too and I am sure you are aware of the existence of well established brands going under as a stock.
So AirAsia posted mega big profits...
Stock closed unchanged.
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Is the market stooopid or what?

Some more Tony is almost playing so many cards at one go currently....

Got AAC sale wo...
Got listing plans for subs wo....

Then how come... which smartie panties threw in the privatisation rumor?

(normally one card is more than cukup to send the stock terbang-ing... )

Oh... lol.... if all these so good, how come Tony has not pick up his private placement shares which are currently sitting on a paper profit of 472+ million?
no money ah?

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post Nov 28 2016, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Nov 28 2016, 05:03 PM)
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eagle....com/110144.jsp more to come  rclxms.gif
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real fun reading all the comments laugh.gif

trolling god level yo rclxs0.gif sweat.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 28 2016, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Nov 28 2016, 05:03 PM)
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/www.eagle....com/110144.jsp more to come  rclxms.gif
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Keep that toxic site away from this forum
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post Nov 28 2016, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 28 2016, 05:14 PM)
real fun reading all the comments  laugh.gif

trolling god level yo  rclxs0.gif  sweat.gif  rolleyes.gif
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You want to migrate over is it?
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post Nov 28 2016, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 28 2016, 06:09 PM)
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You want to migrate over is it?
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nah, still in love with lyn blush.gif
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post Nov 28 2016, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 28 2016, 06:32 PM)
nah, still in love with lyn  blush.gif
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Sure or not?




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post Nov 28 2016, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 28 2016, 06:14 PM)
real fun reading all the comments  laugh.gif

trolling god level yo  rclxs0.gif  sweat.gif  rolleyes.gif
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Yes, that's the best part lol
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 28 2016, 07:07 PM)
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Keep that toxic site away from this forum
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post Nov 28 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 28 2016, 06:42 PM)
Sure or not?
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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Nov 28 2016, 06:43 PM)
Yes, that's the best part lol
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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Nov 28 2016, 06:44 PM)
Chill bro, not everyone knows about it  bruce.gif
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I am chill and I am telling you straight up... that site is toxic.
Like it or not that's my 3 sen of that site.
It's garbage.

Simple proof.
That posting.
Is that writer a blardy joker or what?
His first very point on depreciation.
Does he know or does he not know?

Me? I have never studied accounts but even I know you cannot depreciate goods you have yet to receive (in AirAsia case, aircrafts yet to be delivered)

I stop right there and then.

It's pointless to carry on.

If you want to be serious on the stock market...
avoid that site like plague!

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those main wording nia..ayam so disappointed..
all those announcement also need BM and mandarin translation!!!
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Nov 28 2016, 11:26 PM)
those main wording nia..ayam so disappointed..
all those announcement also need BM and mandarin translation!!!
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slow slow lor..

give them time to improve.. Malaysia style, another few more years laugh.gif cool2.gif blink.gif biggrin.gif
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Local Listed companies with exposure to USD borrowings will need to restructure its borrowing plus to re-tweak its business plan which may include reduce headcount which would lead to incoming higher jobless rate (indirectly increase crime rate) doh.gif
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 25 2016, 09:23 PM)
Helicopter money by Tony..dig hole to cover another hole creating wing stock. This mean transfer Air Asia asset to new company?
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Aiyoh Felix!
What helicopter money la? rolleyes.gif

The current issue is the leasing company and how it accounts its revenue and profits.

The leasing company - owned by AirAsia.
AirAsia sells fei kei to Leasing Company.
Leasing company leases back to AirAsia and its subsidiaries.

From a local blog...

The blog highlights this article: http://www.livemint.com/Companies/dXN7jGDv...Asia-India.html

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One accusation (of several) is regarding the leasing of airplanes:

Other mails indicate that AirAsia India may have a received a raw deal while leasing aircraft from AirAsia Bhd. For instance, old Airbus A320s were priced almost the same as new ones. One A320, made in 2009, and registered as VT-BLR, was leased for $320,000 per month; another, VT-ATF, manufactured in 2014, was leased out for $315,788. The prices do not match the prevailing rates provided by an independent consultant. The leased cost of an Airbus A320 aircraft (February 2010 make) is about $235,000 per month. A 2013 make costs about $280,000, according to data from aviation consulting firm CAPA. Expensive aircraft can mar the costs of a start-up airline and Bhatia seems to have raised this in an email last April.
Well, what can one expect?

These are all transactions between AirAsia and its related companies.

And if you read on the blog:

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CLSA wrote about the issue of revenue recognition in their CG Watch 2016 report:

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Can see how cunning Tony is?

So CLSA is highlighting the issue of "...drastic increase in receivables that have no certainty being collected."

ie. CLSA is asking if these receivables (leasing profits) will be collected or not....

if you spend some quality time reading AirAsia reports...

ending 30.9.2015 Amounts due from associates = 191.481 million.
ending 31.12.2015 Amounts due from associates = 360.854 million.
ending 31.3.2016 Amounts due from associates = 559.389 million
ending 30.6.2016 Amounts due from associates = 647.698 million.

and the latest report ending 30.09.2016 Amounts due from associates is now 706.188 million.

CLSA does have a point yes?
ie AirAsia is charging 'rather high leases' and that (for whatever reason) its associates is 'unable to pay' back to AirAsia....

Given this issue, how much is the leasing unit worth, if this is how it conducts its business? rolleyes.gif

ps: the leasing unit profit contribution to AirAsia profit is not kacang putih too...

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post Nov 29 2016, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 29 2016, 03:47 PM)
Aiyoh Felix!
What helicopter money la?  rolleyes.gif

The current issue is the leasing company and how it accounts its revenue and profits.

The leasing company - owned by AirAsia.
AirAsia sells fei kei to Leasing Company.
Leasing company leases back to AirAsia and its subsidiaries.

From a local blog...

The blog highlights this article: http://www.livemint.com/Companies/dXN7jGDv...Asia-India.html
Well, what can one expect?

These are all transactions between AirAsia and its related companies.

And if you read on the blog:
Can see how cunning Tony is?

So CLSA is highlighting the issue of "...drastic increase in receivables that have no certainty being collected."

ie. CLSA is asking if these receivables (leasing profits) will be collected or not....

if you spend some quality time reading AirAsia reports...

ending 30.9.2015 Amounts due from associates = 191.481 million.
ending 31.12.2015 Amounts due from associates = 360.854 million.
ending 31.3.2016 Amounts due from associates = 559.389 million
ending 30.6.2016 Amounts due from associates = 647.698 million.

and the latest report ending 30.09.2016 Amounts due from associates is now 706.188 million.

CLSA does have a point yes?
ie AirAsia is charging 'rather high leases' and that (for whatever reason) its associates is 'unable to pay' back to AirAsia....

Given this issue, how much is the leasing unit worth, if this is how it conducts its business?  rolleyes.gif

ps: the leasing unit profit contribution to AirAsia profit is not kacang putih too...

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Create accounting Business Good, all Masuk debtor money haven't collect. More like empty shell company show business good...money not collect...in Accounting.

SC is sleeping.....

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Nov 29 2016, 08:18 PM)
Create accounting Business Good, all Masuk debtor money haven't collect. More like empty shell company show business good...money not collect...in Accounting.

SC is sleeping.....
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It's actually legal .....
So cannot say SC sleeping la...

It's basically related party transactions...
And for the investor/trader, they just need to be cautious...
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