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post Nov 29 2021, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 29 2021, 10:33 AM)
are you really saying that the only reason why one short a stock is they want to manipulate the stock?

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if like this .... better you don't touch stocks like TG.... cause you can easily get manipulated!!    laugh.gif
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But facts and figures dont lie. Other stocks equally the Same. If not How to reap profits from daily traders and declare profit to bosses and bonus to himself at year end?🤭
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post Nov 29 2021, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 29 2021, 10:44 AM)
Okay lo.... you are entitled to your own opinion... and I am not here to change your mindset.
as for me... if I was a RSS trader, I probably would have shorted it. Reason? The high profits were driven by an exponentially increasing ASP. As such, it's rather illogical to assume that the rapid growth of ASP would continue... and given the exponentially rise in the stock prices... I would have shorted it too. It was a no brainer.  And guess what? Look at earnings. Once the ASP declined, profits declined just as rapidly... proving that the RSS trades were bang on the money with their shorts. wink.gif

that's my 3 sen opinion la... which I am sticking to it.
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True from a rss pov. But not fair in a Public market. The reason it is called Public So that everyone trades in a fair level playing field not only one particular group.
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post Nov 29 2021, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 29 2021, 10:48 AM)
this was their notes...

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Definitely ASP decline but it will stabilise sooner or later. Cant Expect all gloves player to sell at a margin loss. To press until prepandemic a bit far fetched
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post Nov 29 2021, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(wayton @ Nov 29 2021, 11:02 AM)
ASP may not reach pre-pandemic level, but cost of materials is not going down together with ASP.

Selling price down, buying raw material cost up.
This situation may affect more on smaller producers.
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To be honest If You were seller would You sell at a loss If raw materials naik? Sure You will increase the price. Those who do biz will know. It applies accross the board. You think their all bosses stupid? Sure they will agree to sell at fix price like other commodity in future
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post Nov 29 2021, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 29 2021, 11:08 AM)
Yes, that's yet another interesting point of note in that report.

Raw material inventory cost is high.

And also..... the one main worry..... is lack of workers... and this seems to be real nationwide issue... sweat.gif
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Just like sayur Although different thing. Also lack of workers Now sayur pun naik. You think gloves boss wont increase the price?
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post Nov 29 2021, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 29 2021, 11:33 AM)
Sure they want too but then there is China, yes?
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If oil Can opec Why not gloves glopec🤣🤣
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post Nov 29 2021, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(wayton @ Nov 29 2021, 11:34 AM)
Every seller cost is different, large producers have scale to optimise the cost and may have lower cost compared to those smaller scale.
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Same like other commodities. If others sectors Can Come to a consensus You think gloves wont do the Same? All Common sense in biz world
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post Nov 29 2021, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(wayton @ Nov 29 2021, 02:35 PM)
Biz world is very competitive.

In my business area, there are certain period whenever there is oversupply, large one willing to selling at cost or even at loss to drive out other competitors and gain market share. 
Those small one can't survive, out of business, then supply reduce, price goes back up then large one earn back later on, or better bargain power due to larger market share.

When warehouse is full, either I survive or you survive only. Whatever consensus is out of window.

Oil price despite with Opec, oil price also sank to very low point during oversupply period until many O&G companies were in financial difficulty.

Supply & demand and market share dominant are key factor in competitive biz world
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True. Thats Why Small companies will Either be wiped out go bust or acquired by Big firm. Thats the reality. China xiaomi is doing exactly the Same thing now
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post Nov 29 2021, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(babygrand123 @ Nov 29 2021, 02:28 PM)
Glove make this posts alive again !!!!!!! bruce.gif
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Good things need to be Shared. Sharing is caring 🤭
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post Nov 29 2021, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 29 2021, 03:54 PM)
Oiii.... LU already.... congrats.....
wonder how many of them will LU....  laugh.gif
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harta belum lagi. Nanti besok limit down🤭
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post Nov 30 2021, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 30 2021, 09:38 AM)
Kakakaka!!!!

what kind of analogy is that? buy share like buy food? tongue.gif tongue.gif  rclxub.gif
haiyaaaaa market macam macam ada laaa..... and if the glove shares fall badly today, the blame will shift to the RSS folks who can short at most 5% of total shares.  rclxs0.gif
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Lol yesterday short like Crazy

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post Nov 30 2021, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Nov 30 2021, 01:01 PM)
haha ataims just turned green..
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Lucky bought at dip Tq baby🙈
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post Nov 30 2021, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 30 2021, 02:31 PM)
Yea.... of course they would, if they think TG is over priced, isn't it?

some more TG hit limit up yesterday.... based on.... errr..... out of africa fears?
but yea... my boss says RSS limit only 4% nia...

4% of TG shorts, also you scare meh??

TG buyback is 10% woh...

and the Lau Pan... simply simply suka buy his own shares...
so why la... if you think TG worth 'investment'... why you so scared RSS?  smile.gif
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Adui Nothing to fear. It Must be fair level playinh field. Let the market decide not a bunch of opportunist controlling the share price. Understand first ini Public bukan Private company🤭
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post Nov 30 2021, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 30 2021, 02:58 PM)
Doesn't RSS has more restrictions ?
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Why create rss When everyone should trade equally in a PUBLIC listed company? The Answer is very obvious. To enrich who? Lol
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post Nov 30 2021, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 30 2021, 03:03 PM)
Tell me how RSS can control share price?
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Adui Do You Even know How rss operate? 🤭
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post Nov 30 2021, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Nov 30 2021, 03:05 PM)
Well if you believe the RSS players in Top Glove can control the share price.... why then you want to buy Top Glove?
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Adoi Im not talking gloves la. I meants every counters allow For short selling. Want do it let everyone do. Not a bunch of manipulators.
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post Dec 22 2021, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Dec 22 2021, 02:01 AM)
I find that people confuse the fine line between investing and being a fan.
Like if you invest in something, you must be a fan and support it like you support your football club. They are willing to lose money with such confidence and conviction.
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True. Thats Why need to educate them on facts and statistics. Notice in serba die2 Plotek the boss🤭
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post Dec 29 2021, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Dec 28 2021, 02:27 PM)
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Kesian this guy
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Ppl in difficulty instead of helping But add salt to wound. Next time Same thing happen to Your loved one baru tau🤭
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post Dec 30 2021, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Dec 30 2021, 09:43 AM)
It was such a dead giveaway... the issues that KPMG highlighted was unreal. Baffling. Did Serba expect an auditor like KPMG to not notice those glaring comical issues? And then the intital answers replied, that was comical too.,,,
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Actually kpmg knew the problem way before this. It is only After kpmg decided to settle the fine to 1mdb that they decided not to cover up for serba. Maklumlah, nanti kena pay 333 mil again🤭
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post Jan 6 2022, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 6 2022, 08:27 PM)
Wonder how many plc at bursa is like SD.
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actually alot of bursa listed co mostly are inter-related btw their siblings/family + proxies/cronies if you trace back their history. Some never thought of co also related to this con counters vmad.gif

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