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Utopia Angel
post Aug 25 2017, 11:53 AM

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Problem is there is no way to "switch off" your brain. What is there to do in KLIA while waiting ? Play games for hours everyday ?

The longer you wait, the longer your brain stays idle.
And more cigarettes you might take.
In the long run, I think it's bad for the body actually.

This is juz my opinion only hahaha...


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post Aug 25 2017, 12:49 PM

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How about midnight at KLIA ? still alot queue or no passenger?

I mean after 11pm or 12am - to 4 to 5am

RM75 x 4 = RM300 - 25% = RM225

4 trip with empty car go klia cost = toll( rm25) + petrol(rm40)

RM225 - cost = total earning

i think around RM150 or less

if each waiting time were 3 hour = 12hour + 3hour(going klia ) + 3hour( going out of klia ) = 18hours of working < not include going back from work

you left 6hour to go back and rest.

ofcourse if you bring your laptop/ipad/phone goes there and wait and got business to do on the computer it might be worth. because just 3hour with passenger other time you were alone.

For those who been driving at KLIA with experience please tell us your earning .

( Driving on straight highway were more tiring than driving on city in term of mental side/sleepy )


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post Aug 25 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Aug 25 2017, 12:49 PM)
How about midnight at KLIA ? still alot queue or no passenger?

I mean after 11pm or 12am - to 4 to 5am

RM75 x 4 = RM300 - 25% = RM225

4 trip with empty car go klia cost = toll( rm25) + petrol(rm40)

RM225 - cost = total earning

i think around RM150 or less

if each waiting time were 3 hour = 12hour + 3hour(going klia ) + 3hour( going out of klia ) = 18hours of working < not include going back from work

you left 6hour to go back and rest.

ofcourse if you bring your laptop/ipad/phone goes there and wait and got business to do on the computer it might be worth. because just 3hour with passenger other time you were alone.

For those who been driving at KLIA with experience please tell us your earning .

( Driving on straight highway were more tiring than driving on city in term of mental side/sleepy )
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two weeks ago i went to klia2 and there was full car queing at arrival lane and uber app shows the queue was 100+. i parked in car park since there is no place to park. so i went in the hall try my luck see whether can get someone while open the uber app. but is hard because there is SPAD so i dare not approach those travellers.

but i was lucky. when i about to leave as my parking time is going to pass 1 hour, a korean traveller asked for my help to communicate with their grab driver and noticed that korean traveller key in wrong pick up point so the driver was at klia1. so end up i got the business...save 25%

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post Aug 25 2017, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Aug 24 2017, 11:13 PM)
This intrigue me also..... biggrin.gif

And, I did raised this question to some of the Uber/ Grab drivers I meet (I mean when I ride their car lah), they say, everyday they wait about 3-4 hours for before someone request for ride. So, everyday, they will start their day drive to klia to wait, then, each trip earn flat rate of RM75, before less 20% commission, then, once done, go back to klia to queue again, wait another 3-4 hours for next riders. Eeach day, they only get average 3-4 rides, or say 8-15 hours period, where actually they only drive maybe 6 hours, each 1 hour from klia to kl, other time just chill, and empty car back to klia, and for that earn about RM200+, which they said better than driving around in KL/ PJ which earn less. Since they just wait, they just shut off their car, car not moving, lower maintanance cost, lower milage also.

I dunnolol lah, different people different preference kua.......that's why even now u can see lots of taxi camp at klcc, kl sentral, etc......dunno waiting for what also  laugh.gif
As for trip to ipoh, actually, u can reject it one lah.....uber only cover KL till Seremban only.....any distance further, u got right to decline. And, if u choose to accept, can nego tepi on the rate coz u unable to pick up any passenger outside kl, so, guarantee empty car back
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Some increase their chances by legal/illegal ways devil.gif
Does this work? "legal way", use a few hp, once pickup, off GPS, u still stuck in klia.
Say pickup Grab rider, off gps on phone with uber (would you still be inqueue? as you are still in klia )

If you keep running klia, chances of repeat customer is high with good service
No Doubt it is long hours, but most of it waiting, and for this you can get 8k+ a month as a driver, not bad, really not bad
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post Aug 26 2017, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(cozuni @ Aug 24 2017, 10:57 AM)
Hi newbie here,
If i do not receive any quest means whatever fare i receive -
uber % = to my earnings without any additional income?
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Yes, and you're still get surged fare from demand.
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post Aug 26 2017, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Aug 24 2017, 11:13 PM)
This intrigue me also..... biggrin.gif

And, I did raised this question to some of the Uber/ Grab drivers I meet (I mean when I ride their car lah), they say, everyday they wait about 3-4 hours for before someone request for ride. So, everyday, they will start their day drive to klia to wait, then, each trip earn flat rate of RM75, before less 20% commission, then, once done, go back to klia to queue again, wait another 3-4 hours for next riders. Eeach day, they only get average 3-4 rides, or say 8-15 hours period, where actually they only drive maybe 6 hours, each 1 hour from klia to kl, other time just chill, and empty car back to klia, and for that earn about RM200+, which they said better than driving around in KL/ PJ which earn less. Since they just wait, they just shut off their car, car not moving, lower maintanance cost, lower milage also.

I dunnolol lah, different people different preference kua.......that's why even now u can see lots of taxi camp at klcc, kl sentral, etc......dunno waiting for what also  laugh.gif
As for trip to ipoh, actually, u can reject it one lah.....uber only cover KL till Seremban only.....any distance further, u got right to decline. And, if u choose to accept, can nego tepi on the rate coz u unable to pick up any passenger outside kl, so, guarantee empty car back
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This will be an interesting topic for all, let's break it down and look into..

- Okay, lets take 3 hours of waiting time (usually much longer than that on usual day, non-biggy event such SEA Games)
- Can do 4 trips a day, consistently? Sure or not, I'm doubting that but let's put a doable number, says 3.
- Fare would be around RM75, RM65 for flat rate, RM10 for tolls.. at 25% for newcomers. Gross profit at RM58.75 (48.75+10)

Operating Hours:
- Hours spend, an hour travelling to KLIA to begin, 3 hours waiting + an hour of trip to KL (assuming all KLIA jobs are to KL)
- 1 + ((3+1)*3) = 13 hours of working.

Operation Cost:
- Initial 50KM to KLIA (for those drivers not staying in KL, nearer), 1 job from KLIA & returning to KLIA (60*2, 120KM), 2 job, another 120KM, 3 job (last trip), what about going back home from KL? Okay, let's take 10KM
- 50 + 120 + 120 + 60 + 10
- 360KM/day

Gross Earning:
- RM48.75*3 (no point to include tolls as it is redeemable back from UBER)
- RM146.25

At this point, I no eye to see nor wanna conclude it anymore from the figure above..

RM146.25 for 360KM of mileage, what about your fuel consumption? What about time spend?

I can gross above RM300 for 360KM, minus petrol would be around RM220, time spend is around 12-14 hours, What I can get even more? Quest incentive from morning rush, weekday, and weekend quest too, almost (25*5)+120ish+120ish, RM365 rough bonus..

I've tasted once queuing in KLIA for 4 hours with queue number within 80-90.. after that experience and back to my calculation board, it is just not worth it to me. I only or maybe will take KLIA job if the queue is less than 80, meaning 70-80.. Due to recent SEA Games, I expect the queue would be lots faster to get your turn because mass tourists are flowing in.


QUOTE(Goodboy92 @ Aug 25 2017, 12:49 PM)
How about midnight at KLIA ? still alot queue or no passenger?

I mean after 11pm or 12am - to 4 to 5am

RM75 x 4 = RM300 - 25% = RM225

4 trip with empty car go klia cost = toll( rm25) + petrol(rm40)

RM225 - cost = total earning

i think around RM150 or less

if each waiting time were 3 hour = 12hour + 3hour(going klia ) + 3hour( going out of klia ) = 18hours of working < not include going back from work

you left 6hour to go back and rest.

ofcourse if you bring your laptop/ipad/phone goes there and wait and got business to do on the computer it might be worth. because just 3hour with passenger other time you were alone.

For those who been driving at KLIA with experience please tell us your earning .

( Driving on straight highway were more tiring than driving on city in term of mental side/sleepy )
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Funny thing is, no matter what time I ended at KLIA (after dropping a rider), the queue will always stay full, maybe once or twice 80-90

75*4, 300-25% is wrong, tolls are not subject to commission, refer to my rough~~ calculation.
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post Aug 26 2017, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(ikanair @ Aug 25 2017, 10:03 PM)
Some increase their chances by legal/illegal ways  devil.gif
Does this work? "legal way", use a few hp, once pickup, off GPS,  u still stuck in klia.
Say pickup Grab rider, off gps on phone with uber (would you still be inqueue? as you are still in klia )

If you keep running klia, chances of repeat customer is high with good service
No Doubt it is long hours, but most of it waiting, and for this you can get 8k+ a month as a driver, not bad, really not bad
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If you don't mind to share, I am very curious to know how can a driver achieving 8K by doing this way, I mean "airport driver". I'm guessing the 8K is gross number, or rounded figure~~ maybe 7.5 rounded to 8~~

Mind enlighten us?

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post Aug 26 2017, 10:11 AM

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don't forget to factor in klia to nilai, cyber and putra which the fare are only rm35 and not 65.

if lucky enough, driver may get klia-seremban trip which is also rm35 for a distance of >50,60 km.
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post Aug 26 2017, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Versy_CK @ Aug 26 2017, 09:53 AM)
If you don't mind to share, I am very curious to know how can a driver achieving 8K by doing this way, I mean "airport driver". I'm guessing the 8K is gross number, or rounded figure~~ maybe 7.5 rounded to 8~~

Mind enlighten us?
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You only need to hit 4 trip a day, but most likely you'll hit more, 4 hours wait time for each trip , 16hours you'll hit 4 trips (4x65x30=7800)
Sleep? most of time already napping in car waiting for ping tongue.gif

The most important, good service (+drive a comfortable car), you will get repeat customer (and these will be offlines jobs biggrin.gif)
Setup a small group(3/4 people) of like minded drivers and you can covers each other
Once you build your customer base, you should be hitting > 8k+/month (long hours+ungodly definitely)

None says it is easy job,but if you've no paper qualification/in demand skill set, hard to find another jobs that pays as well
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post Aug 26 2017, 11:50 AM

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How is it possible to do 4 trips per day with 4-hour wait time ?
You need time to send the rider out.
You need time to drive back empty to KLIA as well.

Unless you really eat and sleep in the car for 24 hours a day, then it's possible lor.


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post Aug 26 2017, 05:37 PM

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how do u guys contact Uber support? Are u allow to use the "live chat" only once a day? I normally can see the live chat here https://bonjour.uber.com But it will disappear after i contact CS.
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post Aug 27 2017, 12:41 AM

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There's a set destination before heading to KLIA! biggrin.gif
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post Aug 27 2017, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(bcombat @ Aug 26 2017, 10:11 AM)
don't forget to factor in klia to nilai, cyber and putra which the fare are only rm35 and not 65.

if lucky enough, driver may get klia-seremban trip which is also rm35 for a distance of >50,60 km.
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+1, Sure vomit blood when see these destination.. wanna take or not? doh.gif if take, charity ride loh. if don't take, back to queue.. whistling.gif

QUOTE(ikanair @ Aug 26 2017, 11:33 AM)
You only need to hit 4 trip a day, but most likely you'll hit more, 4 hours wait time for each trip , 16hours you'll hit 4 trips (4x65x30=7800)
Sleep? most of time already napping in car waiting for ping tongue.gif

The most important, good service (+drive a comfortable car), you will get repeat customer (and these will be offlines jobs  biggrin.gif)
Setup a small group(3/4 people) of like minded drivers and you can covers each other
Once you build your customer base, you should be hitting > 8k+/month (long hours+ungodly definitely)

None says it is easy job,but if you've no paper qualification/in demand skill set, hard to find another jobs that pays as well
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It does look nice at the ballpark figure.. let's see..

4x65x30=7800 (awesome figure), but you haven't minus the commission from UBER/GRAB. It became 7800*0.8=6240 or 7800*0.75=5850 (newcomer). That's what you get.. Oh hey.. what about petrol?

Again, assuming an average of RM50 for a tank (for efficient FC cars)
20% earner, 6240 - (50*30) = 4740
25% earner, 5850 - (50*30) = 4350

Still a nice number, right? Well, like @bcombat mentioned, there chances of getting KLIA to Nilai, Cyber, Putra.. means getting a little lesser from the calculation.. don't forget for car's FC too, mean a little more lesser..

Time wise, 16 hours? like @Utopia Angel said, you "live" in your car. Napping is not a proper rest, you will get worn out. And there are much more to factor in. It is a good earning (with longer hours) for those lower qualification or retiree, but I don't agree this method will benefit in term of health and mental in the long run.

There's one thing I'm sort of agreeing with you there on repeat customer, means a guarantee offline jobs to cover contract jobs/rides.


QUOTE(Utopia Angel @ Aug 26 2017, 11:50 AM)
How is it possible to do 4 trips per day with 4-hour wait time ?
You need time to send the rider out.
You need time to drive back empty to KLIA as well.

Unless you really eat and sleep in the car for 24 hours a day, then it's possible lor.
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post Aug 27 2017, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(wueytshuan @ Aug 27 2017, 12:41 AM)
There's a set destination before heading to KLIA! biggrin.gif
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Yeah, we can do that, meaning to say picking up "stray" rides along/toward KLIA.. instead of an hour to reach KLIA and back to queue, we could end up 3 hours to reach KLIA. Also depends on luck to get a ride from KL to KLIA. There are dozen of drivers around.

Applying "set a destination" in my scenario, 4 trips a day became mission impossible, unless your car is your home. XD

Furthermore, we can only use twice "set a destination" a day~~ whistling.gif
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Like many sifus here said before.. try drive dulu.. you will adapt and know which method suit you best for optimum earning, both part-timer and full timer.

My piece of advise, don't exhaust yourself, trading health and time with love ones with money. Yang single boleh lah go crazy.. Yang dah ade family ngan gf.. not good for relationship..

Sendiri pandai pandai fikir~~ Cheers bros and happy earning and drive safe.
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Uber launched multistop feature. But the upfront fare is dirt cheap.
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post Aug 27 2017, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(tanyuethan @ Aug 27 2017, 06:24 PM)
Uber launched multistop feature. But the upfront fare is dirt cheap.
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Err....upfront not fixed at RM0.90, per km 0.60, per min 0.25, but based on their dunno confidential, mysterious calculation of the km and time meh, coz almost always will never get back the fare if you review the trip report, recalculate base on the above rate? doh.gif

Apa yang cheap? Whoever who decided to sign up to drive Uber ought to know the this, I mean the fare rate lah biggrin.gif not the mysterious fare calculation formula that translate to actual income to you

So, later when realised why fare so low, don't cry father mother.....but, if you want to go challenge the fare based on the formula, and for benefits of new drivers....can, can be challenge, and successful. But, after dunno how many round of emails with some nasty language, they will adjust back.


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QUOTE(tanyuethan @ Aug 27 2017, 06:24 PM)
Uber launched multistop feature. But the upfront fare is dirt cheap.
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Still seeing A to B in the apps. No A to B to C just yet~
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post Aug 27 2017, 08:40 PM

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Uber rating system policy sucks...I've been deactivated permanently without knowing why?

Hello Grab then 😆
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QUOTE(cylon @ Aug 27 2017, 08:40 PM)
Uber rating system policy sucks...I've been deactivated permanently without knowing why?

Hello Grab then 😆
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how come you don't know why you deactivated but know it due to rating? whistling.gif

Could it possible you consistently too low rating, aka drive dangerously, brake suddenly, always argue with riders, car smelly and dirty, using foul language scolding riders?

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