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TSyzliew
post Dec 19 2006, 01:11 AM, updated 19y ago

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Cause if using a 2 channel with high current also can pump 12" woofer until like jumping very high.
Then after using monoblock what different is it more powerful then woofer will break or not?or the power is same but will produce more beautiful bass???

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wan to ask the electric crossover have 3 way only
if i put one for subwoofer one for component and another one for my 6x9 5 way can??
Cause 6x9 also going to 5 way already wan to ask can use or not?
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post Dec 19 2006, 03:38 AM

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throw the 6x9 away. 6x9 should only be used if u dont have a woofer in the car to make up for the lack of bass. but if u insist on using the 6x9 with the woofer... get ready for some seriously shitty bass/ sounds.

as for the monoblock. it helps to deliver cleaner power to the woofer. more stabil. and the monoblock should run cooler than a 2channel amp.

the x-over is usually used to split signals from HU to amps. 1 way for front..1 way for rear and 1 way for sub.
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post Dec 19 2006, 07:39 AM

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monoblocks don use up a lot of power from ur batt but can produce high power.. the bass will b more powerful and u can hear that ur woofer is reacts faster than b4 (if ur current setup is not the max for the woofer)

*class D's monoblocks are not as accurate as class AB's monoblocks..
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post Dec 19 2006, 12:10 PM

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i am using two bazooka 12" with 500 watt peak and 250 watt rms
so which monoblock can recommend for me?

and now my front using a pair of component 6.5",a pair of woofer and the 6x9 in back so if throw 6x9 what should replace in back?
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post Dec 19 2006, 12:19 PM

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Back speaker just disconnect loh...

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post Dec 19 2006, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Dec 19 2006, 07:39 AM)
monoblocks don use up a lot of power from ur batt but can produce high power.. the bass will b more powerful and u can hear that ur woofer is reacts faster than b4 (if ur current setup is not the max for the woofer)

*class D's monoblocks are not as accurate as class AB's monoblocks..
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wrong la... power drawing determine by its class and efficiency la
not monoblock, 2channel or 4channel

normally class D monoblock SNR higher than class A/AB monoblock
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post Dec 19 2006, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(yzliew @ Dec 19 2006, 12:10 PM)
i am using two bazooka 12" with 500 watt peak and 250 watt rms
so which monoblock can recommend for me?

and now my front using a pair of component 6.5",a pair of woofer and the 6x9 in back so if throw 6x9 what should replace in back?
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Since now u using a pair of 12' sub woofer, then you can throw away ur 6x9 speaker. Cause 6x9 speaker sound will spoile ur whole nice sound. If you throw away your 6x9, now what you need is more treble sound. Since u using a pair of 12' i believe the bass for ur car already enough.

I will suggest to add 1 more component set or 2 way coxial speaker to give more treble.
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post Dec 19 2006, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(FUZI0N @ Dec 19 2006, 12:39 PM)
wrong la... power drawing determine by its class and efficiency la
not monoblock, 2channel or 4channel

normally class D monoblock SNR higher than class A/AB monoblock
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yarhh.. sorry.. not monoblock.. it's the class tongue.gif
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post Dec 20 2006, 12:22 AM

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Ya,now treble needed bass enough.erm and monoblock wanted,dont know this thing worth or not ??
PYLE is it branded ar??

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/sho...=pyle+monoblock
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post Dec 20 2006, 08:17 AM

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yes it is.. but i heard that there r imitation stuff.. so becareful..

juz for ur info, alpine's monoblock ain't bad too.. smile.gif
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post Dec 20 2006, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Dec 20 2006, 08:17 AM)
yes it is.. but i heard that there r imitation stuff.. so becareful..

juz for ur info, alpine's monoblock ain't bad too.. smile.gif
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Wahaha.. A real Alpine supporter... biggrin.gif
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post Dec 20 2006, 01:38 PM

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erm fren here my car now front component Eton not very powerful in treble then back have 2 12" woofer and 6x9 5 way,after take out the 6x9 5 way what should i replace ,now only need treble?

Help what is powerful in treble ,bass enough.
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QUOTE(yzliew @ Dec 20 2006, 01:38 PM)
erm fren here my car now front component Eton not very powerful in treble then back have 2 12" woofer and 6x9 5 way,after take out the 6x9 5 way what should i replace ,now only need treble?

Help what is powerful in treble ,bass enough.
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tongue.gif you actually got an eton comp set for front ar?
btw i dun understand what you trying to say
can clarify
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post Dec 20 2006, 04:48 PM

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What amp you are using now?
Does your amp have enough power to power your Eton Component?
You tune your amp urself?
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post Dec 20 2006, 05:05 PM

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erm i think is amplifier problem cause my car last time using a sound stream amplifier very old one come from my father mercedes,after that the amplifier broke so i replace with a used also 400 watts class A,so the sound is very low,T.T"

now know already my eton component can produce treble so need to change a amplifier for it.

Thanks Bro
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post Dec 20 2006, 06:29 PM

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Which amp you using?
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post Dec 21 2006, 09:17 AM

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which set of etons you using?
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post Dec 21 2006, 12:35 PM

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dont know come with my father's car also in the component tweeter and the box writing eton
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post Dec 21 2006, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Dec 19 2006, 03:38 AM)
throw the 6x9 away. 6x9 should only be used if u dont have a woofer in the car to make up for the lack of bass. but if u insist on using the 6x9 with the woofer... get ready for some seriously shitty bass/ sounds.

as for the monoblock. it helps to deliver cleaner power to the woofer. more stabil. and the monoblock should run cooler than a 2channel amp.

the x-over is usually used to split signals from HU to amps. 1 way for front..1 way for rear and 1 way for sub.
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IMHO, monoblock class D amp no control n not clean, cannot said that monoblock is much more powerful than stereo amp. It determine by rms.

elec xover, not split signal from hu to amp, it is to cut frequency points that u intended to send from xover to amps. Ur hu sending signal (depends on manufacturer's specs) eg, full range out. U need to send some correct frequencies to ur tweets, mids n woofer.
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QUOTE(ahboy2725 @ Dec 21 2006, 05:27 PM)
IMHO, monoblock class D amp no control n not clean, cannot said that monoblock is much more powerful than stereo amp. It determine by rms.

elec xover, not split signal from hu to amp, it is to cut frequency points that u intended to send from xover to amps. Ur hu sending signal (depends on manufacturer's specs) eg, full range out. U need to send some correct frequencies to ur tweets, mids n woofer.
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post Dec 21 2006, 11:53 PM

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i m using a pair bazooka also...i use 4 channel amp to blow

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post Dec 22 2006, 01:15 AM

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using 12" or 10"?
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post Dec 22 2006, 11:48 AM

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fuzion, me also learning n sharing with u all nia, hope u guys could share urs too hehe
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post Dec 22 2006, 10:23 PM

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Fren,A Brand Alfa Linear Good or not???
10" woofer is around how much?
this brand branded or not?
good or not?
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post Dec 23 2006, 03:05 AM

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alfa linear is a damn chapalang brand.....if u met the right ppl tat didn cut ur throat, normally a 10" sub can get for about RMxx - 120..newer model i not sure...but i m refering to the yellow basket 1....
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post Dec 23 2006, 02:12 PM

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erm bro ar,mohawk one good or not?
CAuse see in web RM250++ DVC 12" Orange
Plan to buy a pair of woofer,budget RM500 for a pair
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post Dec 24 2006, 10:18 AM

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i used 12" a pair bazooka....
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post Dec 24 2006, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(yzliew @ Dec 23 2006, 02:12 PM)
erm bro ar,mohawk one good or not?
CAuse see in web RM250++ DVC 12" Orange
Plan to buy a pair of woofer,budget RM500 for a pair
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What type of bass you need? hmm.gif
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post Dec 25 2006, 01:51 PM

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Wan Play SPL,erm what you mean of what type bass?
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post Dec 25 2006, 04:22 PM

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And anyone hear about Audio Focus?
Good Brand or Cheap BRand?
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QUOTE(yzliew @ Dec 25 2006, 01:51 PM)
Wan Play SPL,erm what you mean of what type bass?
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Soft Bass or Hard bass?
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post Dec 25 2006, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(yzliew @ Dec 25 2006, 04:22 PM)
And anyone hear about Audio Focus?
Good Brand or Cheap BRand?
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never heard b4
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post Dec 25 2006, 11:57 PM

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for a component what model brand recommend ?
sound stream good or not?
or mohawk??
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post Dec 26 2006, 07:59 AM

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wat is ur budget for the component?
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post Dec 26 2006, 04:32 PM

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RM300 plus plus can get a component??
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QUOTE(yzliew @ Dec 26 2006, 04:32 PM)
RM300 plus plus can get a component??
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can get BM boschmann or soundstream LOS or XSC.... laugh.gif
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post Dec 26 2006, 06:01 PM

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Mean RM300 plus plus to buy a set component is good or normal ?
How much can get a pair of good component?
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post Dec 26 2006, 06:11 PM

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Like
HERTZ HSK 165 6.5" 2way RM299
Soundstream XSC-6 6.5 RM299
MB Quart DSD-216 2-Way RM249
ROCKFORD FOSGATE FNX-2614 6.5" RM279
Pioneer TS-C160R 6.5" RM260
Mohawk Blue Series 6.5" RM280

Confuse which one better in the budget around this??
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QUOTE(yzliew @ Dec 26 2006, 06:11 PM)
Like
HERTZ HSK 165 6.5" 2way RM299
Soundstream  XSC-6 6.5 RM299
MB Quart DSD-216 2-Way RM249
ROCKFORD FOSGATE FNX-2614 6.5" RM279

Pioneer TS-C160R 6.5" RM260
Mohawk Blue Series 6.5" RM280

Confuse which one better in the budget around this??
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those I bolded most probably are fake ones OK, so please beware bro.... blink.gif

better gather more information before deciding smile.gif ....better still listen to individual setups and decide, that way u will be satisfied with wat ur ear hears and the money u spent.... nod.gif
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post Dec 26 2006, 07:52 PM

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Let see it is ori or Fake.
Mohawk
http://zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=5131

SoundStream

http://zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthr...ght=soundstream

Is this all Fake???
Warranty By Distibutor MAT

Or where you recommend me to buy Real Thing Original Thing me is in
KL.
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QUOTE(yzliew @ Dec 26 2006, 07:52 PM)
Let see it is ori or Fake.
Mohawk
http://zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=5131

SoundStream

http://zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthr...ght=soundstream

Is this all Fake???
Warranty By Distibutor MAT

Or where you recommend me to buy Real Thing Original Thing me is in
KL.
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OK bro, I dont dare to answer ur question on fake or original since Im not so sure myself, dont wish to give u bad impression about anybody sweat.gif ....its hard to say to original and fake by just looking only, nowdays got fake ones with warranty and same serial no like original ones laugh.gif ....hahahaha...u listen and compare the same model (fake and original) and u might know da difference.... flex.gif

anyway, I have frens who bought this so called "original" speakers before whistling.gif ....yeah, original from this and that distributor and got warranty all...but the thing is that they will not give u da warranty card instead will say that they will keep it for u, so incase got problem with ur speakers, send it to them and they will claim warranty for u...hahaha... doh.gif

and since Im not KL lang, have to wait for KL ICErs to recommend u shops.... smile.gif
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Ok ,THanks bro for explain all the thing.
Finally HOw much can get a Soundstream XSC-6 Original one?
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post Dec 26 2006, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(shocker @ Dec 26 2006, 07:34 PM)
those I bolded most probably are fake ones OK, so please beware bro.... blink.gif

better gather more information before deciding smile.gif ....better still listen to individual setups and decide, that way u will be satisfied with wat ur ear hears and the money u spent.... nod.gif
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u forgotten to bold the hertz and pioneer rclxms.gif
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So how much can get real good thing and what is good thing??

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QUOTE(yzliew @ Dec 26 2006, 08:15 PM)
Ok ,THanks bro for explain all the thing.
Finally HOw much can get a Soundstream XSC-6 Original one?
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so if u need original or genuine SS component, I suggest u check out our LYN automotive garage there rclxms.gif ....our forummer Cola is selling SS comps not sure XSC or LOS version...anyway, like I mentioned before, there is no way of knowing whether those are genuine or not cos fake ICE stuffs nowdays are made to look exactly the same with original ones physically shakehead.gif ....from outside looks same, got valid serial no, size and design same and even got warranty card some more.... doh.gif rclxub.gif

the only other way to know it is by listening and comparing with another exact set and model, if u can detect the difference, then u might realise which one is original or fake...... rolleyes.gif

mind to say, when comparing both setups must be exactly same then its fair and square tongue.gif ......if u take the fake one and drive it with amp and original one not being used with amp, then u will suspect that the original is fake...know wat I mean...hahaha... laugh.gif tongue.gif

to be really safe, better be getting ur ICE stuffs from reliable ICE shops ler, atleast if u wrongly bought fake stuffs then atleast u know where to go and screw da shop fellas rclxs0.gif ....if buy online, a bit hard to go find da same seller again to go scold him....well, Im not against online sellers but do support them when I can... nod.gif

QUOTE(driftmeister @ Dec 26 2006, 08:44 PM)
u forgotten to bold the hertz and pioneer  rclxms.gif
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hehehe, actually was not really sure about hertz and pioneer so much, thats why didnt bold them grumble.gif ....others I already suspect long time leadi.... nod.gif

QUOTE(yzliew @ Dec 26 2006, 10:23 PM)
So how much can get real good thing and what is good thing??
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wat exactly do u mean by this whistling.gif ?
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post Dec 27 2006, 01:59 PM

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i think he means how much for a original higher end comp set.....

mohawk and all is entry lvl stuff. mid end comp sets might be around RM600-RM1k, brands like DLS, alpine, jbl maybe around there la for a comp set.

i guess its better to go to popular shops, although they might charge u a bit more their stuff should be ori.
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ok thank bro
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QUOTE(mhn21 @ Dec 27 2006, 01:59 PM)
i think he means how much for a original higher end comp set.....

mohawk and all is entry lvl stuff. mid end comp sets might be around RM600-RM1k, brands like DLS, alpine, jbl maybe around there la for a comp set.

i guess its better to go to  popular shops, although they might charge u a bit more their stuff should be ori.
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hahaha.... laugh.gif I see the thread title is on monoblock amp but now story goes to component set pulak....hehehe.... tongue.gif

good things does not come cheap.....so is installation and tuning/setting ups....if u need cheap, be prepared to know the kind of quality u getting with the amount of money u paying... wink.gif

good luck and cheers... cheers.gif
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ERm anyone has trade with mycarhifi.com.my Before???
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most of the seller there are genuine
but same like lyn
beware of those new members
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post Dec 27 2006, 10:11 PM

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Finally ask a seller original RM350 got warranty card 1 year SoundStream XSC.6.

i call mycarhifi.com.my the fellow say only RM250 .so cheap i ask original ar?
he say dont know only know is warranty by MAT
SO i better go for RM350.
The original price is it around RM350?

 

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