Consolidated available data about C9:

Main differences between C8 and C9:

HDMI 2.1 - four full 48Gbps ports

4k@120Hz (2160p@120Hz supported only after the mid-2019 firmware update)

1440p resolution support (gamers only or for people who use tv as a monitor)

VRR with 40Hz-120Hz range (gamers only)

eARC adds support for bitstreaming HD audio (Dolby TrueHD, TrueHD+Atmos, DTS-HD HR, DTS-HD MA & DTS:X

HDCP 2.3 supported only after the mid-2019 firmware update

ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode) (gamers only)

Variable Analog Audio Out (3.5mm headphone jack)

improved color volume

expanded calibration options

improved temporary image retention

screen is less darkened for news channels that have icons, banners, etc. (less aggressive ABL)

significantly improved input lag for many resolutions/refresh rates (under 7ms at 120Hz, gamers only)

metal stand instead of plastic, larger footprint, more stable

improved WebOS (version 4.5, runs smoother, plus a few more options)

Google Assistant support

Amazon Alexa support (only after May 2019 03.60.02 firmware update)

Apple AirPlay 2 and Apple HomeKit support (only after the mid-2019 firmware update)

Connect/control various Internet of Things devices

improved motion handling

improved black crush

possibly better at avoiding burn-in, time will tell (less relevant for non-gamers and non-news watchers)

Known problems for C9

eARC - does not pass-through 6/8 channel LPCM, only 2.0 channel LPCM - the C9 can be forced to accept 8ch LPCM with an EDID adapter - LG has been informed, waiting for a resolution;

eARC - the 2017 eARC compatible models of Denon+Marantz receivers are not negotiating more than 2.0 LPCM (Stereo), no HD bistreaming, Denon AVR-X3400H, X4400H, X6400H, Marantz SR7012, the C9 can be forced with an EDID adapter to accept more formats - this is NOT the LG's fault, but Denon/Marantz fault;

eARC - eARC is disabled with SimpLink/CEC=OFF on the TV | ?bug or "feature"?;

Wi-Fi - the C9 will lose the wireless connection and you have to reconnect daily (wired is stable) - ?induced by a particular firmware or condition?;

Audio - random return to internal speakers instead of the previously configured ARC/eARC | triggers: on Power ON, on source switch | affected firmware: 03.60.04;

Internal apps - (example: Netflix) do not pass-through HD audio via eARC, but lossy formats such as DD+Atmos work (This is also a known problem with the eARC Sony TVs.), must use an HDMI source for HD Audio;

USB - WebOS media player does not pass-through HD audio via eARC, but lossy formats such as DD+Atmos work, must use an HDMI source for HD Audio;

DLNA - unable to pass-through HD audio via eARC, must use an HDMI source for HD Audio;

Updated list for known AVRs vs C9 eARC

AVRs known to work with C9 eARC

- Pioneer VSX-LX503 - 2018 - requires CEC=ON on the receiver for eARC to work)
- Denon AVR-X3500H - 2018
- Denon AVR-4500H - 2018 - eARC works (ignoring the TV Audio setup) with CEC=OFF and ARC=OFF on Denon and eARC=ON on C9 (also works about the same with the 2018 Sony A9F/AF9 OLED eARC TV, with CEC=OFF on both and ARC=OFF on Denon)
- Denon AVR-X6500H - 2018
- Yamaha RX-V685 - 2018 - (requires CEC=ON on the receiver for eARC to work)

- Denon AVR-S750H - 2019 - (requires SimpLink=ON on the C9 and HDMI Control=ON on the S750H for eARC to work, but with the TV Audio setup?)
- Denon AVR-X1600H - 2019 - (also works with 2019 Sony X950G eARC TV)


AVRs not working with C9 eARC
- Denon AVR-X3400H - 2017
- Denon AVR-X4400H - 2017 - (on TV Audio is capable of only Stereo with the 2018 Sony A9F/AF9 OLED eARC TVs internal apps, HD audio does pass-through!);
- Denon AVR-X6400H - 2017 - (on TV Audio is capable of only Stereo with the C9);
- Marantz SR7012 - 2017 - (also no HD audio with the 2018 Sony A9F/AF9 OLED eARC TVs internal apps/Plex)

Source: AVSForum C9-E9 Owners Thread

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To answer your question, solely depends how early you are going to adopt HDMI 2.1 devices. PS5 and Xbox Scarlett is most probably due late 2020, by then for sure - there will be a C10, which we may or may not get the promised top emission OLEDs which was supposed to come this year lol.

If you aren't in a rush to get an OLED now, might as well just wait a few more months. As has been historically proven, LG reduces their OLED TVs by the end of the year. It has happened for the last 3 years and I don't see a reason why they won't follow the same trend.

There are still quite a few C8 left in stock all over the country, which is why you see so many "clearance" sales for them - which every single retailer will tell you "limited CNY or Raya sales only". Lol yeah, CNY and Raya lasted 4 months alright.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jun 25 2019, 04:49 PM

Hi SSJBen,
Many thank for your insight. Sounds like no need to spend the money now.

To reply to both of you, I have heard rumours that the ps5 and new xbox are going to be subscription based games which means you don't have alot to play within the first few months of release and 8k isn't that all great so don't buy the TV just for hdmi 2.0 or the voice assistant.

Also this year TVs are basically the same tech as last year with added features. Buy the c8 bro.

Also in sarawak the price of c8 is still 10k.

I don't know which alternate dimension you heard those rumors from because literally, it's confirmed by both Sony and Microsoft that their next-gen consoles WILL not only play next-gen titles, but also are fully backwards compatible with current-gen titles. There are also titles that has been confirmed to be developed as cross-gen releases, key being FFVII Remake and Cyberpunk 2077.

You are probably mistaken with the Sony and Microsoft partnership in regards to Cloud-based gaming. That will co-exist with next-gen consoles (just like Sony is doing with PS Now cloud gaming on the PS4) but the target there is on a much longer time frame than what's happening in the next 2-3 years.

No, 8k isn't the point of HDMI 2.1 - it won't be for a long time. The point of HDMI 2.1 is VRR, which is a VERY important game changer. HDMI 2.1 is also important for high refresh rates of 120hz for PC users.

If gaming isn't important, yes by all means - get the C8. RM9.5k for a 65" is a pretty solid deal.


As for @bolded parts

1) The C8 is HDMI 2.0 lol? Don't buy a TV just for HDMI 2.0??? You mean 2.1...

2) LG OLEDs has been the "same tech" since 2017. But that's not really accurate, the OLED panel structure has changed and so has the processor (although last year's and this year's is basically the same, other than support for the HDMI 2.1 silicon). Low level black handling has been improved for the last 2+ years, so has panel uniformity, so has luminosity and so has input lag/latency. You are using "same tech" too generally.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Jun 26 2019, 04:26 PM

Desa Home is selling C8 at RM9399 with free vouchers.

I'm about to get the LG 65C8 (my 1st choice) yesterday but end up getting Sony 65A8F at only 7k. No excuse to turn down that great offer from clearance sale.

money is yours, choice is yours. nothing wrong
7k for 65" great price.
where u bought?

Where can get this price? been searching everywhere but the cheapest price around 99++. Also anyone knows if the sony oled SDR brightness 270cdm from Rtings considered OK to watch in a bright room? For HDR content i think should be OK at 635cdm. Even my mediocre old sony ips TV also around 300-400cdm for SDR content.

This post has been edited by razkal: Jul 1 2019, 03:34 PM

As long as gaming isn't your main usage for the TV, the A8F is definitely a good choice given the price. Congrats.


Cd/m on an OLED should not be compared directly to an LCD. There are differences in how they work, while the bottom line for cd/m measurement is get a unit output - how humans perceive it in reality is different. Our eyes are not meters, people often forget about this and care too much about numbers.

I'll quote this here from flatpanelsHD as it's already been explained several times:



If you are constantly watching full screen bright content (specifically sports or news), then a panel that can hit much higher peak brightness full screen is definitely a more suitable choice in a bright room. Otherwise, OLED is still the way to go - until MicroLED becomes mainstream.

Thanks for the explanations. I can conclude that OLED has higher brightness than the IPS panel and both cannot be compared directly. Also, I have a question regarding the C8 OLED variant. My sony TV could passthrough DTS signal from TV sony native video player apps to my YAS 207 sound bar using either optical and HDMI, however my understanding most LG tv cannot passthrough DTS signal through hdmi and optical. Will i be missing this feature a lot if i'm buying the C8 variant. I know that my the soundbar will not properly decode the dts signal as it is only 2.1.

Also any feedback regarding HDMI CEC implementation on LG C8. my sony tv has problem when there's more than one hdmi attached to the TV, the TV will go mute, therefore have to use optical cable. Prefer to use one remote to control the volume.

I am still on a C7 so I cannot personally comment on the C8. My C7 passes through DD (also DD+) and DTS through HDMI ARC and also optical just fine. I don't however use any passthrough as I connect all my sources to my receiver directly for lossless audio.

According to reviews and also many personal users comments, the C8 also passes through DD and DTS through HDMI ARC and optical as well. Actually all DD and DTS signals will be decoded properly onto a 2.1 soundbar, it's simply a matter of the soundbar downmixing and folding in the center, left+right surround channels into stereo. There is nothing that doesn't decode properly, because if it doesn't - all you will hear is static and garbled noise.

HDMI ARC has never worked consistently and will never work consistently. There are simply too many issues with handshaking of devices. eARC which is supposed to fix all these teething problems haven't actually done much better either, at least from what I'm reading with devices using eARC.

Sorry i confused myself with Samsung. LG should be OK with DTS passthrough. I meant to say probably the 2.1 channel probably will not be able to replicate proper surround from many channels but suffice for my needs. I read from forum that we can DIY the HDMI connector or purchase the HDMI-CECless adapter to reduce communication conflicts from other HDMIs devices.

Anyone planing to sell their 55 inch OLED?

you go buy new, price is crazily low now

Yes you could get something like HDFury if you're facing issues, but it's extra cost and trust me - importing it into Msia isn't exactly cheap either. Furthermore, HDFury isn't fail-proof too.

Hi Guys, as we know now netflix 4k streaming service has some titles with Dolby vision and atmos. Im having a full set 5.1.2 dobly atmos sound system setup with denon avr. Im using LG Oled B6 as tv. The issue I have is trying to play netflix both that supports DVision and DAtmos.

1. If Im using the LG webOS netflix app. Yes i have DVision but the TV doesnt passthrough DAtmos to my Denon x1300w AVR. Tested using optical sound link.

2. If I buy the latest Apple TV 4k and use its netflix. Im sure my AVR will able to play DAtmos, but anyone can advise if my LG B6 will able to receive DVision from the Apple TV 4K via my AVR?

Wondering if its my LG B6 limitation not able to support DAtmos when using LG webOS, and not able to receive DVision signal when the source is from the latest APTV4K.

Dolby Atmos must use hdmi connection ARC to B6
Toslink cant do it

I read somewhere LG B6 webOS netflix doesnt support atmos, therefore when select netflix title that actually has atmos will not even display atmos logo on the title selection screen.

Ok now I need to confirm if the APTV4k or XBox One netflix able to see atmos and DVision on specific title, will my LG B6 able to take the DVision signal via my Denon AVR (Dvision compatible after firmware updated)?

Anyone has tried?

LG B6 (and C6) only supports DV at 30hz, not 60hz. Therefore if you buy an APTV4k - you cannot use 60hz as the output, you must force it to 30hz or 24hz (the UI will be slow as fuck). Same thing for the Xbox One.

If you can bear with the slow and laggy UI of 24/30hz - then perhaps get an APTV4k.
You need to use HDMI ARC (CEC) in order to passthrough DD+ (with Atmos meta) to the receiver for audio decoding and then the video to the TV to enable DV. The problem with this is that HDMI ARC doesn't always works, you may or may not need several power cycles to get the proper handshake between devices. When it works, it's cool and when it doesn't - it is such a pain in the ass.

Ok just bought APTV4k, tonight later I try use hdmi from APTV4k to my AVR, then from hdmi out with ARC/CEC to LG B6 Tv hdmi in with ARC/CEC. Need to identify which hdmi in is that first. Will update.

This post has been edited by Vannus: Jul 5 2019, 07:51 PM