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post Dec 29 2006, 11:49 AM

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Hello all, I'm planning to get a poodle in June 2007. But before that, I wanna know more information on poodle. What should I get ready before I buy the poodle? And how much does it cost for grooming and how often?
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post Dec 30 2006, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(magnumao @ Dec 30 2006, 03:14 PM)
now grow up a lot liao.
last time when he just came about 2 mths old, looks more like soft toy biggrin.gif

btw poodle is really great companion, and good to keep in apartment.
Xiaomao brought so much fun to our family.

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Whao .. are all those 4 doggies poodles?? Super cute wub.gif. How to toilet train poodle to pee poo on newspapers??
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post Jan 4 2007, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(Sc@ryM@ry @ Jan 3 2007, 11:01 PM)
Syrian,  smile.gif

preparing to bring home a puppy is a huge thing... I like to think of it as welcoming home a baby... so all the basic essentials like sleeping place & some toys are called for... prepare urself especially emotionally & physically for some tough puppy parenting & training especially the toilet traning part... as cute as our poodle darlings are, they still need to be toilet trained... poodles can get very attached to u if there are not many family members around so be prepared for some real manja-ing... kekeke  smile.gif ...
I groom my poodle myself... outside it can range anywhere between rm60 to rm100 depending on where u send to... u'll probably need to send for proper grooming every 3 months the most... anything longer than that u'll have a real scary dog to handle...  tongue.gif If u dun really have much time for grooming, i suggest u keep the coat short for easy maintainace...
one more advice, choose & pick carefully before u buy... try to avoid pet shops & puppy millers... it's heart breaking to hear frens bringing home puppies & loosing them after few weeks...
good luck...
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QUOTE(Sc@ryM@ry @ Jan 3 2007, 11:04 PM)
I toilet trained my Ladee on newspaper in one day... the secret is consitantcy which mean u gotta be there the whole time to take ur pup to the the paper toilet... they usually need to pee after nap & after makan... poo is usually after makan... somehow my Ladee has this face she shows when she need to go & she'll come & show her 'toilet face'... but some dogs takes longer so dun be discourage if ur future poodle dun pick it up in a day...  wink.gif
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Heya, thanks for the advices!!! Great advices!! Help me a lot in taking care of a poodle. Don't worry - I plan to keep his fur as short as possible. I don't like long fur either - Messy and get all tangled up.

I don't plan to train him to pee poo on newspaper. Plan to get a container of toyogo box size but lower height. Then get some kinda plastic basket that have holes like siever and diy myself and put on top of the container - wanna make it like a "real" toilet. Fill in a low level of water in the container. And carry the poodle to make him sit on top of the "siever-like basket" everytime after he makan and nap. Make him know that is his "toilet" and he shud go thr when he wanna pee poo. Is it possible to train him in this way??

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post Jan 4 2007, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Sc@ryM@ry @ Jan 4 2007, 04:25 PM)
Wonderful plan... just gotta be more thoughtful bout the height & size of the toilet... if u ask me, with poodle, anything is possible... they are bty the secondmost smartest breed...  wink.gif

have u located a breeder?... any preference in colour?...
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Not really with location of breeder but have been checking the price range from lowyat - those few ppl who sells dogs. As for colour - either white, brown or cream biggrin.gif. Gender still not decided yet but most probably a female. Wud kinda food do u give to ur poodle? And do I need a cage or can jz tie it with collar and leash when i zzzz at nite?

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post Jan 5 2007, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(Sc@ryM@ry @ Jan 4 2007, 11:30 PM)
I feed Nutro Choice Lamb & rice formula to my Ladee coz she has sensitive skin & I think she is allergic to chicken flavoured food as few times I bought for her, she developed red spots & got itchy all over... poodles can become very choosy eaters as soon as they learn that when they dun eat u start to provide variety, so try to resist & dun give in... I made that mistake with Ladee...  tongue.gif

I m against all form of caging or chainning up dogs so pls forgive me if I sound 'rude'... if u are worried that ur puppy may roam & dirty all over the house, u may like to get a play pan instead... it's sort of act like a cage but more spacious & its durable with out a top... put a bed in there so ur puppy knows it's where he/she shud sleep, eventually they wud find a comfy sleeping spot & as they grow older, messing wud not be a problem... one piece is about 2" & u can get like 6 pieces to make a nice enclosure... in there u cud also include the toilet tray but dun place it too near the bed...

I gave Ladee soft toys like the beanies type for her to chew & play wif since day one I got her back & she never chewed on any of my household things...
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Ic. I know what is play pen. I don't plan to lock her up either. Jz thought of getting a basket and put some cushion pad and towel in there for her to sleep in (her sleeping bed). THought of leashing her up jz for the first few days/weeks to make sure she's toilet-trained first so that she don't pee poo on my bed when not supervised. I sleep on da floor whistling.gif. When she's fully toilet-trained, then I won't leash her anymore lor - jz let her roam freely biggrin.gif. I don't like to tie up a dog or cat - look kinda inhuman to me tongue.gif. So, that means I don't need to get a cage for her then. thumbup.gif.

Is Eukanuba or Science Plan or Nutriedge good ??

Between, what is crate training?? I kept saying ppl saying they crate train their shihtzu.

To Sc@ryM@ry,
In my thread, u mentioned something about getting the cert. So, u mean getting a poodle with MKA is important to prevent myself from getting cheated by the seller? I also don't really know how to differentiate. If the breeder tells me that's a toy, I'd also assume it's a toy sweat.gif. No experience in buying doggie.

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post Jan 5 2007, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(magnumao @ Jan 5 2007, 12:31 AM)
he is abt 5mths old, bday 30/07.
paiseh to tell you that we seldom cut his hair, just let it grows "naturally". or at least i nv cut before, i dont think my little sis cut his hair often also (she is the official owner and caregiver, the rest of us are just his playmates and "resource provider"). that is why u will see our poodle looks a bit different from the typical one.... blush.gif
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But ur poodle is really a cutie wub.gif. I like the fur - hehe. If I want to groom myself tongue.gif, what type of scissor should I get?? But the first grooming, I'll leave it to the groomer at the shop. Try and observe how they do it and I'll know how to diy too - hehe. I cut my bf's hair spikey 3 times already wink.gif

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post Jan 5 2007, 12:41 AM

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u mean normal scissors for cutting hair ?? With the "teeth" one or without the "teeth" ? I got two scissors - one is normal scissor and one is for cutting layer - hehe.

Better go back to my studies. Tomorrow 2 papers and I'm not prepared yet.
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QUOTE(magnumao @ Jan 5 2007, 12:56 AM)
aiyo it depends on you lah doh.gif
if u want layer, then use the layer one. if you dont want layer, just the normal one lah tongue.gif . your dog cant say no also.... rclxm9.gif you are his/her stylist mah

but my friend got a dog very funny. everytime after his hair being cut, he will hide himself somewhere and dont see ppl other than for food (within the house ofcoz). according to my friend his dog feel "malu" (coz my friend only anyhow cut, he just wants his hair to be short).
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Hahahahaa... cute little fella. First time hear dogs will also malu .. LOL laugh.gif. Then how often do u send him for the ear grooming thingy? I didn't know I have to pluck the fur from the ears. Share some more of ur experiences with ur poodle tongue.gif. notworthy.gif I'm getting to know more and more info on poodle from u guys here. Really appreciate those info hands.gif icon_idea.gif thumbup.gif

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post Jan 5 2007, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(magnumao @ Jan 5 2007, 08:50 AM)
this is to prevent ear infection, dog's ears get infected easily. so must keep their ears clean and dry. long fur inside the ears can grow gems.
that was the 1st time we brought xiaomao to pluck his inner ear hair after so many months (he joined us on 07/10/06), end up kena lecture by the shop. they said cannot wait until it grows so long, got smell already. must do it more often, like ard 1mths+ once.
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Yerrrr ... painful neh. Every month need to pluck some more. Ur poodle didn't struggle ??
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QUOTE(Sc@ryM@ry @ Jan 5 2007, 10:06 PM)
Gud to know u are not the chain up or caged up type...  rclxms.gif

I've done survey on food at one phase coz I was obssessed with getting the best food for Ladee... I bought holistic food & also tried cooking but in the end I found that Nutro Choice suits my Ladee best & brings out good coat... I personally dun recommand Eukanuba & Science Diet coz if u look at the ingrediants, I feel these are expensive junk just selling brand name...

Not sure how Crate training is done coz i only used paper toilet training & my other dog, a MS only pees & poops in the garden... knows how to tell us when she needs to go...  tongue.gif

I am dun encourage poodle with cert coz the gene pool is small... not name pure bred poodle with cert in Klang Valley as I know... I am worried that poodle with MKA cert are inbred which is not gud & may cause health probelms... unless for the past 2 years there are many more ppl who have imported poodles from abroad, I dun see the trens of in breeding changing...  sad.gif
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Then how do I make sure the poodle is really a pure breed TOY type? If later I got a wrong breed - quite ma fan coz I stay in condominium and it's not suitable for a standard size dog.

QUOTE(sampan1027 @ Jan 5 2007, 10:07 PM)
plucking the fur in the ear won't be so painful one .. once your poodle get used to it, it won't struggle anymore .. juz stay there and let u do your thing. But have to make sure don't kena the skin/meat of the ear. Once terkena, MAYBE your poodle wont let you do it anymore in the future coz no sense of security already.
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Pluck ALL the fur inside the ear until "botak" ?

QUOTE(casablanca2 @ Jan 5 2007, 10:16 PM)
i actually hav done a bit study for poodle although i dont hav one.. i know poodle wont shed like other breed tht's y it's one of my choice if i am going to keep a dog. some said poodle is quite barky but some said it's ok. mayb every dog is the same when they r new to the surronding, depends on how the owner train them.
i need to know is poodle a suitable choice to keep in apartment?
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I'm staying in condo and I'm planning to get a poodle somewhere in June. Need to find out more information first before I get her. As with barking, I think it depends to the personal characteristic of the doggie. All dogs will bark but it really depends on the internal side of them. Jz like some babies always cry but some babies seldom cry. Correct me if i'm wrong on this concept tongue.gif.

QUOTE(sampan1027 @ Jan 5 2007, 10:28 PM)
Yalor .. Every dog food is good(i'm not talking about those very commercialised ones) but it won't be good unless your dog loves it and is suitable for it. So i suggest right you can go to any pet shop and ask for food samples to try at home first. To see whether they are suitable to what brand and which flavour of food.
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Harh!! Can get samples from pet shop one ar ???

QUOTE(BelleG @ Jan 5 2007, 11:32 PM)
How often do u guys bath ur poodle?
I heard from someone, tat u hv 2 bath them twice a week.....
I was surprise, cos i hv 4 poodles, i bath them once a week only, but i wipe their coat everyday am & pm after their meal
I also put cologne once a week.....
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Why wanna put cologne?? They got strong body odor? I saw most ppl said they bath their doggie once a week only wor.

P/s: Btwn, can any one of you post up a picture on the newspaper training thingy? And then if u put newspaper, the poodle won't unintentionally peed on the wall mer?? And then, if u jz line newspaper on the floor, won't they stepped into their own urine?? Coz newspaper is slow absorbent of liquid. I wanna know more about the poo pee training thingy.

Sc@ryM@ry, the tearing thingy u mentioned, I searched in the internet and I know what is it liao. My friend's maltese also got tearing. I read in the maltese thread, they teach ppl to use 'corn starch' to rub on the tear wor. Will it work for poodle?

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List of questions to ask:

1. If after meals, i wait for 30 minutes, then I take the poodle to his "toilet". Do I make him squat down there or what?? And how do I know if he wanna poop or not??

2. Do I always leave her water bowl there?? Or give her water after meals, then remove it?

3. After bathing, need to blow dry?

4. Which gender is more recommended?? Female or male?

5. Besides those "pelleted" food, what else should I buy for him?? Eg Nylone bone, etc .. wud are the stuffs to get her??

I'll post some more questions when I've thought about them .
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QUOTE(casablanca2 @ Jan 6 2007, 11:05 AM)
icon_idea.gif i plan to get after chinese new year.. mayb we can buy together then got discount haha  biggrin.gif
sample of dog or cat food can get at pet shop. they will give u a small packet only la
rclxms.gif i dont need to ask question lor.. syrian help me ask all..
i think if male will pee at the wall to mark their zone n female same as human got period issue  tongue.gif
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Hahahahaa ... if u can think of some other questions, jz post - Then we can learn more first before getting a poodle. I'm getting "HER" somewhere in June. Need to wait bf start working, then only can realy really really guarantee can feed her. If buy now, then only depends no my own pocket money - enuff for makan, not enuff for jabs and grooming. So, I dun wanna take the risk to get HER now. Later she suffer ; I sendiri also ma fan tongue.gif.
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Does it mean I need to leave the water bowl or the water dispenser thingy there 24 hours ... BUT the food dish need to be removed and not to be put there 24 hours lar ..

Got picture to show the newspaper thingy for pee poo ?? tongue.gif. I'm very concern abt the toilet training thingy. Will they step on their own pee IF u jz place newspaper on the floor?? Coz newspaper do not absorb liquid immediately .
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QUOTE(casablanca2 @ Jan 6 2007, 09:13 PM)
Oo.. i think i gonna get a "her" too coz stay in apartment. got boy boy keep together wit u so nice. i keep for myself only, no gal gal keep wit me  cry.gif
i can always ask my doggie sifu if i got questions. she very pro, her dog got appear in tv ads and newspaper b4  thumbup.gif so i just check here to see wat i miss out lor and learn more thing from all poodle owners here  notworthy.gif
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LOL. If i alone jaga her - kenot neh. During holidays, I'm forced to go back to hometown and my parents dunno I'm going to get a doggie. If let them noe, mati ar tongue.gif. Later say I come West to study or play sweat.gif. HOlidays, my bf can jaga her lor coz he will be working and kento go back hometown.

U noe wud information that wasn't mentioned in here, jz post up and share with ME laugh.gif. The behaviour, playfulness, etc - I'm not so concerned about that coz I believe all dogs have their own personalities and it depends on how u teach and train them. So, it shouldn't be a problem for me. I'm only concerned about the pee poo thingy as to how to train. Later pee and poop on my tilam - mati. doh.gif

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i kept thinking about the "stepping onto her own urine" thingy. Then I thought of getting something absorbent which would absorb the urine immediatley so she won't step on her own urine. THought of cats littering sand - but i think the sand would stick to her paw tongue.gif. Then thought of those littering crystal for cats - i think it'd be harsh on her paw - not too sure. Wud other options u guys use ?? or jz plain newspapers?

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QUOTE(casablanca2 @ Jan 7 2007, 07:53 PM)
okay, no problem. right now i am discussing bout good breeder wit her. see where can get responsible and nice poodle breeder hehe.. but she said better go to meet the breeder n see the parent, surronding myself. mayb i will invite her to go wit me la since she so pro.. once is confirm, i will let u know, then u see u wanna join or not la  smile.gif
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Sure. Thanks in advance biggrin.gif.

By the way, roughly how much do you guys spend on your poodle per month?? Estimate the costs to the cost of a toy poodle inclusive food, grooming, jabs, etc.

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haven't found a cheap one yet .. i'm still considering on the costs and everything per month.
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RM700 only?? That's cheapest I've heard neh... Which breeder is that or could u give me da number in pm ?? tongue.gif

Note: How much do you guys spend on ur poodle per month?? A rough estimate will do including jabs, etc so that I'll plan properly how much shud I save up per month for the doggie biggrin.gif.

Hao, u still wanna get a poodle?? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Sc@ryM@ry @ Jan 9 2007, 08:18 PM)
Food: Nuto Choise Lamb & rice rm27 (small bag can last about 2 months)
Shampoo: St Francis Skin care shampoo rm17 (can last about 2 to 3 months)
Vaccine: rm70++ for the 6 in 1 jab + deworming *u need to allocate this for the first 2 or 3 months depending on the pup's vacination record...
others: chew bones, toys, doggie t's: set aside rm10 a month .. but if u gonna buy clothes then cost more...
grooming: varies betwwen type of services rm20 to rm100

I generally spend less than rm50 a month...
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The food small bag can last for 2 months?? So, meaning poodle only eat very small portion per meal then. I thought of getting nutriegde big pack .. around RM 120-130. DUnno 15 kg or 20 kg . laugh.gif.

Grooming i asked is RM 80.
How does the jab go about ?? Eg. How many times need to go for jab, etc ..
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3 jab per month ?? or how regularly ?? I have no idea about those injection stuffs. I only noe need to have jab but not sure how regularly and waht type of jabs.

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