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 Get Cheaper Hepatitis C Treatment In Malaysia, Generic Harvoni With High Cure Rate

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coffee81
post Dec 24 2016, 12:45 PM

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First of all, I would like to express my gratitude to dtdw in sharing his journey. A lot of information and ways being revealed and thanks again for PM with me throughout these few weeks.

My Mum, 75 years old, detected hepC 3 years back on a regular blood test. An experienced Doctor manage to pick it up. She is suspected get hit of it on her blood transfusion back in 1990's. and he has liver cirrhosis due to it.

My mum has hepC , geno type 3 , she need Daclatasvir + Sofosbuvir, without Ribavirin ( doctor recommendation and my research from internet shows same Combi) ( Further research shows my mum case is rare and mostly she needs a 24 weeks treatment)

As of last month of quotation from our doctor, the 12 weeks treatment is 250k ++-- subjecting to exchange rate ( sigh ....)

I had been asking and searching around , finally i reach here. Below is my comment after communication and decision making.


1) Beacon Pharma, anti viral product, they have 2 in 1 medicine. Approached them by wechat and email (Masfik - reply after 1 day), whatsapp ( Tamal - reply after 8 days ). Slow response and bad communication.
Price including shipment USD720 (12 weeks treatment) , invoice out by their company and clearly write out the medicine and ingredients you ordered. You need to wired bank in to their HK bank account.

2) Incepta Pharma, 2 types separate medicines for SOF + DAC, Approached Alimul through email and whatapps ( major communication tools). He gives me prompt response and no problem in understanding our concern and needs. Price including shipment USD1100 ( 12 weeks treatment), ( further step by step is as per describe by dtdw in details ) ( My experience with Western Union, advise directly go to Main Pos Malaysia in your area to get it done, i had been running few Banks but they give me a lot of suck reasons ... system down, limitation of 2.4k, only entertain foreign works ... etc )


We give a go to Alimul because of the smooth communication, his way of writing invoice and dtdw success case.

However, our shipment get blocks by MOH for 3 days. we had been worried for few days and finally it get release. In return, we manage to get the first batch of medicines together with warning letter from MOH of let you go once.

We are still analyzing the reason of blocking with dtdw, below are the suspected cause

1) volume of medicine, total 6 bottles per shipment because it is not 2 in 1 medicines. ( we are considering split shipment if another 12 weeks treatment is required.)
2) no doctor's prescription attached together, it is my mistake of over looking it, we only attach blood test report and ID copy.

We are planing to start the treatment after we get the latest viral count report in two weeks times. ( crossing my fingers)





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TSdtdw
post Dec 24 2016, 08:37 PM

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coffee81

Thanks for your input and contribution. It is frustrating indeed to have nothing fall in our favor. As compared to widely available treatment for other common "illness" that seemingly can fall under insurance coverage (if eligible), hep c is indeed a headache and frustrates many people.

What you went through is a miracle indeed, as we can only pray and hope for not getting into trouble, just like my case.

I'm not sure if your doctor recommended the generic meds to you, or you did your own research? If your doc has recommended to you, you can easily ask for a prescription letter from him. It looks like this

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And I also think Incepta Pharma has the combo for sof+dac, which will reduce the bottle to just 3 per 12 weeks treatment.

Few things I would like to point out as to why my shipment went through without issues for 2 times.

1. The declared amount is low, i won't state the amount (for obvious reasons)
2. The content is very little
3. Prescription letter to back it up
4. Sbg airport and DHL have good relationship, things past kastam easier thus avoid unnecessary inspection

Some pointers, technically it is not very little. 3 bottles is more than their 1 month no matter how i look at it, but they take all the above into consideration.

They can either look at all of it, or depending on their mood, and/or relationship with shipping company. Everyone has different results from my research based on people importing health supplement from places like iherb. Effectively, some people say 3 of each type of item is the max in 1 shipment, and the max is RM 400 (?). And yeah, the shipping company with the airport also play a role apparently.

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coffee81
post Dec 24 2016, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(dtdw @ Dec 24 2016, 08:37 PM)
coffee81

Thanks for your input and contribution. It is frustrating indeed to have nothing fall in our favor. As compared to widely available treatment for other common "illness" that seemingly can fall under insurance coverage (if eligible), hep c is indeed a headache and frustrates many people.

What you went through is a miracle indeed, as we can only pray and hope for not getting into trouble, just like my case.

I'm not sure if your doctor recommended the generic meds to you, or you did your own research? If your doc has recommended to you, you can easily ask for a prescription letter from him. It looks like this

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And I also think Incepta Pharma has the combo for sof+dac, which will reduce the bottle to just 3 per 12 weeks treatment.

Few things I would like to point out as to why my shipment went through without issues for 2 times.

1. The declared amount is low, i won't state the amount (for obvious reasons)
2. The content is very little
3. Prescription letter to back it up
4. Sbg airport and DHL have good relationship, things past kastam easier thus avoid unnecessary inspection

Some pointers, technically it is not very little. 3 bottles is more than their 1 month no matter how i look at it, but they take all the above into consideration.

They can either look at all of it, or depending on their mood, and/or relationship with shipping company. Everyone has different results from my research based on people importing health supplement from places like iherb. Effectively, some people say 3 of each type of item is the max in 1 shipment, and the max is RM 400 (?). And yeah, the shipping company with the airport also play a role apparently.
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@dtdw

Thanks again for the point out. Our doctor recommended the drugs combi to us. It is matching my own research as well

I shall chase my doctor on the mentioned prescription.

Incepta does not have combo, this is the first thing Alimul mentioned to me and i went through their product list in their website too >.<


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post Dec 25 2016, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(coffee81 @ Dec 24 2016, 11:58 PM)
@dtdw

Thanks again for the point out. Our doctor recommended the drugs combi to us. It is matching my own research as well

I shall chase my doctor on the mentioned prescription.

Incepta does not have combo, this is the first thing Alimul mentioned to me and i went through their product list in their website too >.<
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Mayb ask him the origin of this picture of Corevigen http://fixhepc.com/forum/daa-access/435-in...f-led-comb.html

A few of them in fixhepc managed to get it but very little info. Mayb they discontinued it i'm not too sure.

For those concerned about beacon pharma and wire-transfer issue, take a look at this thread http://fixhepc.com/forum/daa-access/1405-b...rmacuicals.html.

At first with Incepta I thought why is there so much hassle and even have to use western union, and the reps at Incepta told me something to do with bank issues. It is true indeed.

I also didn't know you can do WU transaction via Pos so it's good to know. I faced the same issue that banks have too many restriction, so one of the bankers advice we go straight to any WU standalone branch and things gets done easily.

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post Jan 1 2017, 09:32 AM

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Happy new year everyone !

Let's all stay positive despite so many negative things we're receiving lately.

May 2017 bring you good wealth and health !
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post Jan 30 2017, 05:21 PM

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I will be getting my meds from India which may consist of at least 9 bottles as I have 3 types of meds (3 mths supply). Will there be potential issues with Malaysian Customs? Has anyone encountered this before? Or would it be advisable to ship in a few shipments i.e. split the meds into 3 shipments?
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QUOTE(phoenix45 @ Jan 30 2017, 05:21 PM)
I will be getting my meds from India which may consist of at least 9 bottles as I have 3 types of meds (3 mths supply). Will there be potential issues with Malaysian Customs? Has anyone encountered this before? Or would it be advisable to ship in a few shipments i.e. split the meds into 3 shipments?
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It's advisable to split it into 3 shipments, but you also need to split it to 3 different names and address if you're shipping it together.

I would however recommend you to get combined version of the generics as that will reduce the amount of bottles needed. But if it is really unavoidable like the previous person (due to lack of combination of the generic), then you'd have to split it. He got the letter of warning is most likely because he didn't provide the prescription letter.

If you can get the doc to confirm if his prescription letter allows you to import 9 bottles, then it's all the better. Just ask the doc to write it clearly the name of the generic, the brand, and the amount of bottles. If it gets stuck in customs, the letter should provide backups and the hospital is responsible for it since they issued it. Although I can't confirm if it works this way since I've never tried it (with this many bottles).

Example:

3x abc (brand x)
3x def (brand x)
3x ghi (brand x)

You can refer to the post above for example of a true copy of prescription letter.

This post has been edited by dtdw: Feb 3 2017, 12:09 PM
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post Feb 10 2017, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(dtdw @ Feb 3 2017, 12:01 PM)
It's advisable to split it into 3 shipments, but you also need to split it to 3 different names and address if you're shipping it together.

I would however recommend you to get combined version of the generics as that will reduce the amount of bottles needed. But if it is really unavoidable like the previous person (due to lack of combination of the generic), then you'd have to split it. He got the letter of warning is most likely because he didn't provide the prescription letter.

If you can get the doc to confirm if his prescription letter allows you to import 9 bottles, then it's all the better. Just ask the doc to write it clearly the name of the generic, the brand, and the amount of bottles. If it gets stuck in customs, the letter should provide backups and the hospital is responsible for it since they issued it. Although I can't confirm if it works this way since I've never tried it (with this many bottles).

Example:

3x abc (brand x)
3x def (brand x)
3x ghi (brand x)

You can refer to the post above for example of a true copy of prescription letter.
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Thank you for the information. Appreciate your effort.
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post Feb 16 2017, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix45 @ Feb 10 2017, 10:37 PM)
Thank you for the information. Appreciate  your effort.
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You're welcome. Awaiting for your updates.

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For everyone that's following, If I didn't reply on time here, you can reach me via PM.

The notification goes to my email which I check everyday.

Had a few people PM me for some advice, which is great.

I'm glad this is picking up, never thought this will gain traction (if any).

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Hopefully we'll be seeing some updates soon by others, the more people update with proof, the better it is for everyone who's suffering from HCV.

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Aniketsancheti
post Feb 23 2017, 02:49 PM

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wow!!! i see very useful information over here , just add some more information here, regarding Indian Generic medicine please read , i just write for patient who cant differentiate the indian medicine.

Why India can produce and sell generic Harvoni?

Usually a drug such as Harvoni is patented and the originator (in this case Gilead Sciences) has an exclusivity on producing and selling the drug. However, even when Sovaldi came out in December 2013 in the US, India had problems with paying such a high price for a life-saving disease. Because India is such a big market with more than 1 billion people and estimated more than 30 million Hepatitis C patients, Gilead Sciences had agreed to give licences to India's pharmaceutical plants to produce and sell generic Harvoni and generic Sovaldi at a very low cost. On every sale, however, Gilead Sciences profits from royalties. Given that generic Harvoni is sold for around $10 per pill, if Gilead reaps $5 in royalties, there is still more than $10 billion to be made in India alone on Hepatitis C. In negotiations for this deal from which now every US or European Hepatitis C patient can benefit, it was stated by Indian authorities that they don't recognise the innovation that went into the development of Harvoni's active ingredient Sofosbuvir. Because the molecule is very similar to other antiviral drugs that already exist in the market, Gilead went on to give licences to produce generic Sovaldi at first, and when Harvoni came out in the US the licence to produce generic Harvoni followed.
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I have just received a message from @Aniketsancheti.

I would like to stress that we will prefer not to deal with personal messages from dealers, but if you can list your sources that can be validated via fixhepc.com then it shall be no problem.

For anyone that might have received messages from various dealers, just double confirm the company is listed in fixhepc.com and it's contact details are accurate.

Have a nice day.
SUSEdBaaBaa
post Feb 24 2017, 08:18 AM

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An interesting read and good information.

Tq, dtdw
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QUOTE(EdBaaBaa @ Feb 24 2017, 08:18 AM)
An interesting read and good information.

Tq, dtdw
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post Apr 27 2017, 01:22 PM

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Nearing end of apr, here's the report on the awareness.

I'm getting occasional PM, some from newly registered members.

Here's the search term so far

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It's ranked last, i'm hoping to beat the rest if at all possible. The rest of the sites are just plain lousy in conveying facts and truth.

In terms of SEO, i said it before, i strongly believe this site is giving too many do-follow outbound links which google doesn't like very much.

I hope to reduce the amount of links on the first post yet still able to convey facts and figures. smile.gif

If anyone is reading this and want to help, all you need to do is search the term, scroll down to this forum link post and click on the results. This will push it up and eventually rank it higher than these useless news portal.

Look at this themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/moh-to-propose-importing-generic-hepatitis-c-meds all talk and still talking, until when they wanna talk? It's been 1 year since i started this topic and 2 years since some article talked about expensive prices.

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[quote=dtdw,Jan 15 2016, 03:40 PM]

Thanks for all your effort in sharing...

God bless you

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RevoWithin
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I know someone that brings in Hep C medicine to Malaysia.

and by far few patients has taken and now completely cure. No viral load 6 months after treatment.

PM me
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Just an update, i'm still around if anyone wants more info. Ive responded to a few PM and will go through a few more. I wasnt well myself this week, so please bear with me.
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August update.

Nothing much to report, everything is fine, if you need more info feel free to pm me.
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post Dec 23 2017, 07:27 PM

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A very good information and as a guidance ..
Tqvm dtdw.

yugen88
post Feb 6 2018, 12:51 AM

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I have just purchased MyHep LVIR (Mylan) from India (via postage) to treat Hep C (Gen 1a). Item has been shipped earlier today via DHL Express Worldwide. Finger crossed to receive it within the next 2-3 days.

1 question though, how do i determine the authenticity of the tablet from Mylan ? Is there anything specific which i can check for?



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