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Aeroberg
post Mar 2 2016, 05:40 PM

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Long time reader of the forum, first time posting.

If anyone has an inkling what the recipe is for Skulls and Crossbones by Vigilante, I'd very much appreciate any advice you can give. My favourite juice ever.

Thanks a bunch. Enjoy all the info gained from here.
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post Mar 3 2016, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Mar 2 2016, 09:04 PM)
Sorry...I couldn't find any clone recipes online and I never tasted Skull & Crossbones before. But in consolation, here's a nice recipe for sup tulang http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/malaysia...yle-bone-broth/

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Haha....too bad then. Any idea if who sells the rum flavourings? Gonna experiment on my own
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post Mar 4 2016, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(nekkidgramma @ Mar 3 2016, 12:29 PM)
There's TFA Jamaican Rum if you're gonna go DIY. Vaperstuff has em. Maybe Flavorist as well. FA Jamaican Rum is more delish tho but impossible to find locally.
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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Mar 3 2016, 01:00 PM)
http://www.lelong.com.my/merchant/TakeItGlobal.htm has white and jamaican rum. If you don't see it listed in lelong, just message the seller, Mr Heah.

To my tastebuds, the white rum is ok. Have yet to test the jamaican rum.
The brandy is well worth using.
The whiskey and bourbon are very similar in taste.

All are Ungerer flavors.
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Good stuffs. Thanks. If I ever get close to replicating it, will share. Cheers
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post Mar 7 2016, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Mar 4 2016, 12:21 PM)
Who knows? It could even be the same person who was asking in /k about being bipolar!  biggrin.gif  Endless possibilities.... 
Actually your question had intrigued me...been doing some thinking about it. The company seems to have a pirates of the caribbean theme, so it's most probably be jamaican rum used. Bear in mind I've yet to taste it and the following is merely a guesstimate based on stated main flavors and impressions of several reviewers. Maybe u can try making a trial 5ml bottle of

Acetyl pyrazine 0.5%
Butter, Capella 1.5%
Butter cream, Capella 2.5%
Yellow cake, FlavorWest 3%
Jamaican rum, whichever brand u come across 2.5%
Vanilla bean ice cream, TFA 3.5%
Brown sugar TFA 1.5%

Vids of the cloud production make me think it's probably 50/50 pg/vg. If you taste any spices in the rum of the original, do let me know.
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Last Friday went to Flavourist to get the ingredients and mixed a 15ml version using this mix.

Butter 1%
Cake batter 5%
Jamaican Rum 1%
Vanilla bean ice cream 5%
Brown Sugar 1%
Ethyl malthol 4 drops

First hand, the smell is not quite there but not a long way off either. Haven't tasted it yet though. Will probably steep it a week just for the sake of it. Am probably lacking acetyl pyrazine though. Ran out of VG before I can make a different mix. Thought I saw online somewhere stating it at 70VG30PG, so I made that. How important are those ratio to the flavour anyway? (Genuine question)

Off hand don't remember which brand those ingredients are. Will check and update.
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post Mar 7 2016, 05:56 PM

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No spices in the rum of the original
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post Mar 8 2016, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Mar 7 2016, 09:01 PM)
For myself, I'll always taste every juice when freshly made, even tho it requires steeping. This lets me know how the recipe will go as it matures. It also lets me know the interactions of the various flavors in those proportions from day 1...that's valuable info. Also, generally speaking if an experimental mix tastes like crap on the first day, chances are slim that it will taste better later on.

With that having been said, judging from your ingredients, your mix should turn out to be rather decent! Am glad you went easy on the ethyl maltol...it's a great flavor muter. If you want some gentle smoothing of your mix and a touch of sweetening, consider TFA Marshmallow instead of EM...it's a better mixer. But if you taste cotton candy in the original juice, then EM's the way to go. Should you detect a touch of saltiness in the original, then you may wish to try adding 4 to 4.5% saline while upping the other flavors to above 22% in total (otherwise it'll just taste weak due to the dilution by the saline).

About PG/VG ratios
PG is the flavor carrier..so the more PG you use, the more flavor you get. Want more clouds, up the VG %. That's the general way things go.

However in my continuous musings on why some import juices taste so much better, one factor I've been cracking my head on is "mouth-feel". I believe mouth-feel also contributes to our perception of flavor. Imagine if you will, 2 same-flavor juices (not necessarily having the same percentage of flavors)...one with thinner vapor production and one with much thicker vapor. I've made high VG versions of 50-50 juices and I prefer the former....gobs of thick rich vapor in my mouth. Am currently experimenting with VG-based flavorings and additives. So far the initial results of several juices have been most gratifying (2 thumbs up from my usual victims)  biggrin.gif
OK..good to know that. Now I'm wondering how it'll taste when a spiced jamaican rum is used instead! Aah infinite possibilities...
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Tried it yesterday. The mix is decent but not quite there. What I like about it is that I didn't add any sweetener and yet there's a hint of sweetness in it which suits me just fine. Will try pushing it to 50/50 concoction for next round. Don't think there were saltiness in the original. If you're interested to try the original, I got it last time from Kudeta Vape @ Kota Damansara. Not sure if they still have stock or not. You're right about the "mouth-feel". The original had thick vapor which left a very strong after taste.
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post Mar 21 2016, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 18 2016, 10:19 PM)
Apple Pie Vanilla Bean Ice Cream with Caramel (taste like Gambit)
Strawberry Custard (taste like Unicorn Milk)
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Any chance you'll be willing to share the recipe for these two?
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post Mar 23 2016, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Mar 21 2016, 12:40 PM)
Apple Pie Vanilla Bean Ice Cream with Caramel (taste like Gambit):

Acetyl Pyrazine 5% - 4%
Apple Pie (TPA) 11%
DX Caramel (Original) (TPA) 1.65%
Caramel Candy (TPA) 1.65%
Cotton Candy (TPA) 2.2%
Pie Crust (TPA) 2.2%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (TPA) 5.5%
Vanilla Custard v2 (CAP) 0.55%
Whipped Cream (TPA)  2.2%

50PG/50VG blend

Strawberry Custard (taste like Unicorn Milk):

Butter Cream (FW) 1.5%
Graham Cracker (TPA) 0.5%
New York Cheesecake (CAP) 0.5%
Sweet Cream (CAP) 1.5%
Sweet Strawberry (CAP) 8.5%
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (TPA) 1%
Vanilla Custard v2 (CAP) 3%

25PG/75VG blend
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Cheers boss

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