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post Jan 22 2016, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(6oLsh0i_6o0z3 @ Jan 22 2016, 12:21 AM)
Uhm..regarding vaporesso..just watch this for awhile..there is some news in regards to their ceramic coil heads:
@watch at 59:19 damn lolyat cant paste yt timer properly
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Anyway, about Griffin RTA have you guys heard anything about VCMT RTA by Vaperz Cloud? They have 25mm & 30mm version, with humongous velocity style deck. Maybe it is comparable with the Griffin but it is expensive as fudge, plus there is nobody bring this RTA over here as far as I know.
I don't watch Grimmgreen. He always thinks he's the star of the show, not the products he's reviewing. Lol! And he's still a noob when it comes to the newer stuff like TC etc.
https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigaret..._the_vaporesso/

PBusardo's take on it.
http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/archives/9989

VCMT at USD65!!! I can buy 3 Griffins or 3 Crius!

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Latest code. Just came out last week.

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You can call the post office with the tracking number and tell them to hold it for you.

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post Jan 22 2016, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(kuli2sahaja @ Jan 22 2016, 12:44 AM)
Forgot i got vape mail and poslaju didn't deliver.
How long can they hold the item until they return to sender? Outstation cant take it myself
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14 days iirc or maybe 7 days? You can read at the back of the notice they left you to be sure.

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post Jan 22 2016, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(JimL @ Jan 22 2016, 12:44 AM)
I don't watch Grimmgreen. He always thinks he's the star of the show, not the products he's reviewing. Lol! And he's still a noob when it comes to the newer stuff like TC etc.

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigaret..._the_vaporesso/

PBusardo's take on it.
http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/archives/9989

VCMT at USD65!!! I can buy 3 Griffins or 3 Crius!

gnomemaster
Latest code. Just came out last week.
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Wait what? Star of the show, seriously dude? Tbh, I never watch grimm's videos at first, but now I think he's okay. So far been enjoy watching his videos and his long ass vlog every Thursday (Friday in Malaysia).

The thing I like about grimm is that he takes his time before reviewing any stuff sent to him. Not like others who will always try to be the first to review any new products.

He's funny and humble too if you notice, trying his best to reply to his followers not like some other reviewer *cough* rip *cough* trippers.

But that just my 2 cent on him..

Yea man VCMT is damn expensive, couldn't agree more on that wink.gif

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post Jan 22 2016, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(kuli2sahaja @ Jan 22 2016, 12:44 AM)
Forgot i got vape mail and poslaju didn't deliver.
How long can they hold the item until they return to sender? Outstation cant take it myself
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poslaju should allow someone to take it on your behalf wat.. hmm.gif
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post Jan 22 2016, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(JimL @ Jan 22 2016, 12:44 AM)
I don't watch Grimmgreen. He always thinks he's the star of the show, not the products he's reviewing. Lol! And he's still a noob when it comes to the newer stuff like TC etc.
https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigaret..._the_vaporesso/

PBusardo's take on it.
http://www.tasteyourjuice.com/wordpress/archives/9989

VCMT at USD65!!! I can buy 3 Griffins or 3 Crius!

gnomemaster
Latest code. Just came out last week.

kuli2sahaja
You can call the post office with the tracking number and tell them to hold it for you.
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"MgO doping has been shown to effectively inhibit grain growth in ceramics and improve their fracture toughness by transforming the mechanism of crack growth at nanoscale."

i guess rather than testing the vapor or extreme heating it, the tester, IMO, tested it by crushing the ceramic material.
heating it alone wouldn't cause it to release MgO i think...dig deeper first. Thank god for my B+ material science during my uni time laugh.gif
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post Jan 22 2016, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(6oLsh0i_6o0z3 @ Jan 22 2016, 01:00 AM)
Wait what? Star of the show, seriously dude? Tbh, I never watch grimm's videos at first, but now I think he's okay. So far been enjoy watching his videos and his long ass vlog every Thursday (Friday in Malaysia).

The thing I like about grimm is that he takes his time before reviewing any stuff sent to him. Not like others who will always try to be the first to review any new products.

He's funny and humble too if you notice, trying his best to reply to his followers not like some other reviewer *cough* rip *cough* trippers.

But that just my 2 cent on him..

Yea man VCMT is damn expensive, couldn't agree more on that wink.gif
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Lol! When I watch a product review, all I want to see is the product and how it performs. I gave up watching grimm long ago when all he was talking about was himself, beer etc. Very little on the product.

Yeah, Rip gets on everyones nerves! But at least I get to see the product he's reviewing up close. There's a number of reviewers I've given up watching. They're either biased or it seems like they've been paid off.

Once in a while I get in a dose of Vaping Bogan!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdMLInT9WyQ

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post Jan 22 2016, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(gnomemaster @ Jan 22 2016, 01:17 AM)
6oLsh0i_6o0z3

"MgO doping has been shown to effectively inhibit grain growth in ceramics and improve their fracture toughness by transforming the mechanism of crack growth at nanoscale."

i guess rather than testing the vapor or extreme heating it, the tester, IMO, tested it by crushing the ceramic material.
heating it alone wouldn't cause it to release MgO i think...dig deeper first. Thank god for my B+ material science during my uni time laugh.gif
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you do realize that if those coils are mgo ceramics that they have the chance to release well I don't know, mgo right? lol
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post Jan 22 2016, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(olivur @ Jan 22 2016, 01:38 AM)
you do realize that if those coils are mgo ceramics that they have the chance to release well I don't know, mgo right? lol
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For when you get sand in it -
https://www.fasttech.com/product/4175100
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post Jan 22 2016, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(JimL @ Jan 22 2016, 01:28 AM)
Lol! When I watch a product review, all I want to see is the product and how it performs. I gave up watching grimm long ago when all he was talking about was himself, beer etc. Very little on the product.

Yeah, Rip gets on everyones nerves! But at least I get to see the product he's reviewing up close. There's a number of reviewers I've given up watching. They're either biased or it seems like they've been paid off.

Once in a while I get in a dose of Vaping Bogan!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdMLInT9WyQ
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Dude, the beer section is on his long ass vlog. There is even a first impression about the stuff he just received on his vlog. But that is just a snippets of it before his final review. No reviews as far as I know on his vlog. That is on every Thursday.

His reviews is on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. That is when he talks about the real review. But not as in-depth as PBusardo's stuff tbh.

But thats okay, to each his own preference.

So far my main youtube vape channel is Grimm, RipTrippers, Twisted420 (rarely), VapnFagan (rarely), RichardNG (sometimes) and for the ejuice review - ConvictedVapes. Nothing professional about ConvictedVapes, I just like to see their reaction when they review some trash ejuice, it was hilarious.
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post Jan 22 2016, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(olivur @ Jan 22 2016, 01:38 AM)
you do realize that if those coils are mgo ceramics that they have the chance to release well I don't know, mgo right? lol
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which is why i said, the outcome of heating a crushed powdered ceramic material is not the same as heating a compressed one.
and to answer your question, yes there is a chance. but i have not studied ceramics material in depth (only studied metal during that time) before so i too can't be sure how does the bonding works between mgo and ceramic, the degradation rate, melting point etc.

let the lab test find out for us. the MSDS report from vaporesso did declare there is presence of mgo during testing but they removed the wt% on the result table.
that leads me to guess, exactly what and how they test the safety or the material and how far they went.


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post Jan 22 2016, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(JimL @ Jan 22 2016, 01:44 AM)
For when you get sand in it -
https://www.fasttech.com/product/4175100
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lol what


QUOTE(gnomemaster @ Jan 22 2016, 01:48 AM)
which is why i said, the outcome of heating a crushed powdered ceramic material is not the same as heating a compressed one.
and to answer your question, yes there is a chance. but i have not studied ceramics material in depth (only studied metal during that time) before so i too can't be sure how does the bonding works between mgo and ceramic, the degradation rate, melting point etc.

let the lab test find out for us. the MSDS report from vaporesso did declare there is presence of mgo during testing but they removed the wt% on the result table.
that leads me to guess, exactly what and how they test the safety or the material and how far they went.
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how did you even pick up on the sentiment that they were grinding down the coils to powder lol? it's an inhalation test. the issue at hand is similar to nickel. overheating nickel releases nickel oxide hence tc to make it relatively safe. the trouble with ceramic is non of the current mods could regulate temperature on it properly as the resistance jumps around.
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QUOTE(olivur @ Jan 22 2016, 01:58 AM)
lol what
how did you even pick up on the sentiment that they were grinding down the coils to powder lol? it's an inhalation test. the issue at hand is similar to nickel. overheating nickel releases nickel oxide hence tc to make it relatively safe. the trouble with ceramic is non of the current mods could regulate temperature on it properly as the resistance jumps around.
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when things are lab tested, yes they are subjected to be tested in every possible way. how i know? i am required to during material testing.
altho i did not finish my studies as engineer, but i still have to go thru exams and complete my lab test with material during my stint there.

now, i am no certfied engineer, im jz saying what i have learned during my study years, unless you r indeed an engineer that specialises in these, i suggest we leave this here and patiently wait for the verdict from the officials, and not some youtuber lol.

besides, it's not like im losing money with all these bs going on.
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post Jan 22 2016, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(olivur @ Jan 22 2016, 01:58 AM)
lol what
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post Jan 22 2016, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(gnomemaster @ Jan 22 2016, 02:03 AM)
when things are lab tested, yes they are subjected to be tested in every possible way. how i know? i am required to during material testing.
altho i did not finish my studies as engineer, but i still have to go thru exams and complete my lab test with material during my stint there.

now, i am no certfied engineer, im jz saying what i have learned during my study years, unless you r indeed an engineer that specialises in these, i suggest we leave this here and patiently wait for the verdict from the officials, and not some youtuber lol.

besides, it's not like im losing money with all these bs going on.
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exactly, but there's also tests that are carried out which is relevant to the application it's being used on. eg burning a coil's cotton dry and claiming vaping is unsafe due to formaldehyde levels vs firing a coil head when it's properly primed. guess which category grinding the ceramic coils down to powder falls into?

material testing vs application safety.

that's what I'm getting at, not shitting on ceramic coils, just irked at how you're so quick to dismiss (poorly at that) something that even pbusardo claims could be a cause for concern. (as much as I don't care for the orange man)
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QUOTE(JimL @ Jan 22 2016, 02:15 AM)
I know what it means, I just don't get what caused you to suffer from it from my reply to gnome :)
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QUOTE(olivur @ Jan 22 2016, 02:20 AM)
I know what it means, I just don't get what caused you to suffer from it from my reply to gnome smile.gif
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Had nothing to do with your answer to gnome. Lol.
Its just an item which was listed today on FT.
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QUOTE(olivur @ Jan 22 2016, 02:18 AM)
exactly, but there's also tests that are carried out which is relevant to the application it's being used on. eg burning a coil's cotton dry and claiming vaping is unsafe due to formaldehyde levels vs firing a coil head when it's properly primed. guess which category grinding the ceramic coils down to powder falls into?

material testing vs application safety.

that's what I'm getting at, not shitting on ceramic coils, just irked at how you're so quick to dismiss (poorly at that) something that even pbusardo claims could be a cause for concern. (as much as I don't care for the orange man)
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i understand your point. but u must understand this too, when an object are subjected to testing, in this case heating. lab don give, excuse me, jack shit wat u using it for. manufacturer don get to tell the lab:"hey, im gonna use this only for vaping, so go easy on them aye? im not gonna vape it above 60w so no need to test so extreme." hell no!

if it's application safety, i agree they might jz test that object as it is to see whether it explodes, combust or wat not at its stated nature of use.
but when it's material safety, oh no they don go easy on that, especially when it concerns body contacts and cell absorption.

i don dismiss pbusardo's claim of it being a concern, but i do see a certified paper on manufacturer's side hmm.gif . hey, we are all about safety when it comes to vaping isn't it?
if the 'big vendor' doesnt trust the test result and carry out his own side's third party testing, and if it indeed turns out to be a real shit storm, we might have ourselves some nice vape drama going on biggrin.gif

but if it happens to be jz false alarm, u might see me getting that new tank pretty soon laugh.gif

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QUOTE(JimL @ Jan 22 2016, 02:30 AM)
Had nothing to do with your answer to gnome. Lol.
Its just an item which was listed today on FT.
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I swear you've an odd way of saying hi lol

but real talk, vaginal douching unlike anal douching could actually be depremental since it upsets the vaginal flora

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I had discussed ceramic systems early on with Vail. He's not interested at all. I am only going to get it when its made by a larger, more established manufacturer. Probably get a safer product.
But hey, if Adrian L of Tmn Bercham wants to be a guinea pig....... Lolololol!!!!
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QUOTE(JimL @ Jan 22 2016, 02:50 AM)
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I had discussed ceramic systems early on with Vail. He's not interested at all. I am only going to get it when its made by a larger, more established manufacturer. Probably get a safer product.
But hey, if Adrian L of Tmn Bercham wants to be a guinea pig....... Lolololol!!!!
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in the meantime, http://www.multi-gyn.com/ use this when necessary yea




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