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post Feb 29 2016, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Feb 29 2016, 12:55 PM)
Err...I'm pretty sure I used the phrase "failed pisang mas extract". Failed...kaput...hangkang...down the drainhole! It was vapable with very good flavor (better than any of the chemical-tasting and scented flavorings out there), but the coil would clog up superfast with banana-scented carbon. Extracts of coffee, tea, star anise, cengkih all ok, and hella lot cheaper than buying flavorings.

And you're absolutely right. Ripe bananas smell like marker pens, and the common chemical responsible for that is ethylene; that's the gas which is produced by fruits to bring on ripening. The riper it gets, the more ethylene there is wafting around it.

I started extracting banana cos I hated the very artificial chemical taste of banana flavorings. There is a partially good workaround that problem though but I can only pass it to you tomorrow. Today's my last day mixing for a certain organization, but I'm still honor-bound by a gentleman's agreement to keep quiet about certain things till 1st March. Not long to go! rclxm9.gif
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Steeping in PG right? Do you need other machine like the dehydrator?
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post Feb 29 2016, 02:22 PM

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Anyone know what is the recipe to make DIY juice of Milkman & One Hit Wonder?
Would like to DIY for my all day vape...
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post Feb 29 2016, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(andyng38 @ Feb 29 2016, 12:55 PM)
Err...I'm pretty sure I used the phrase "failed pisang mas extract". Failed...kaput...hangkang...down the drainhole! It was vapable with very good flavor (better than any of the chemical-tasting and scented flavorings out there), but the coil would clog up superfast with banana-scented carbon. Extracts of coffee, tea, star anise, cengkih all ok, and hella lot cheaper than buying flavorings.

And you're absolutely right. Ripe bananas smell like marker pens, and the common chemical responsible for that is ethylene; that's the gas which is produced by fruits to bring on ripening. The riper it gets, the more ethylene there is wafting around it.

I started extracting banana cos I hated the very artificial chemical taste of banana flavorings. There is a partially good workaround that problem though but I can only pass it to you tomorrow. Today's my last day mixing for a certain organization, but I'm still honor-bound by a gentleman's agreement to keep quiet about certain things till 1st March. Not long to go! rclxm9.gif
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JHB likuid? hmm.gif
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post Feb 29 2016, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(melvintkw @ Feb 29 2016, 02:22 PM)
Anyone know what is the recipe to make DIY juice of Milkman & One Hit Wonder?
Would like to DIY for my all day vape...
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Its strawberry cream is it? Hard to brew exact.. But for strawberry cream in general, can do
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post Feb 29 2016, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Feb 29 2016, 03:16 PM)
Its strawberry cream is it? Hard to brew exact.. But for strawberry cream in general, can do
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Can you show me the recipe?
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post Feb 29 2016, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(melvintkw @ Feb 29 2016, 03:50 PM)
Can you show me the recipe?
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will PM u tonight.. don't mind to share my recipe.. but take it as grain and salt laugh.gif
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post Feb 29 2016, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Feb 29 2016, 03:51 PM)
will PM u tonight.. don't mind to share my recipe.. but take it as grain and salt  laugh.gif
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Thank you so much for sharing!
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post Feb 29 2016, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(jameslionhart @ Feb 29 2016, 01:56 PM)
Steeping in PG right? Do you need other machine like the dehydrator?
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Yes in PG. A BRIX meter is very handy ( sidenote: sugar content diff between pisang raja and mas is very large!) for various fruits. Dehydrators are also very good to have...to reduce water content; however it has an adverse effect on the flavor of certain fruits.

QUOTE(ekudz @ Feb 29 2016, 03:14 PM)
JHB likuid?  hmm.gif
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makmerekahjiau sdn bhd. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Feb 29 2016, 06:00 PM

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post Feb 29 2016, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(hallucinogen @ Feb 29 2016, 01:06 AM)
Vaper stuff nic good? I have an experience bought nic from a random shop, which i end up toss it away bcoz scared to use, it looks yellowish and when i think back, those guys selling are just random guy, how do they do dilution hmm.gif so after that i kinda be careful when buying nic
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I don't think the color of nicotine is too much of a big deal, it turns slightly pale yellowish color or even darker yellowish when oxidized depending on how the supplier, seller, stores them.
Fresh nic should be colorless iinm. If the supplier, seller bought in large volume and then they rebottled it in a smaller volume to be sell here there is high chance the nic had been introduce with oxygen thus change the color a bit unless they have a sophisticated lab equipment to eliminates the oxygen completely when rebottling, which I doubt it.

I'm not sure if there is any seller over here that bought a pure nic (which is expensive) and diluted it themselves in PG/VG mix but I highly doubt it. I think mostly bought 100mg in large volume and just do rebottle.

Link below is not anything scientific, but have read anyway:
http://blog.v-ecigs.com/2014/03/what-does-color-of-my-nicotine-mean.html

QUOTE(jameslionhart @ Feb 29 2016, 09:44 AM)
Don't get TFA ripe banana. If im not mistaken there's oil substance in it and it will expand your rubbers. Hence spoiling syringes and tank O rings.

Ingredients like Key Lime and Ripe Banana always screw up my equipments  mad.gif

I wanna learn more about extracting flavors also. So far I've tried coffee bean with PG as well. But for fruits, there's a need for dehydration machine  cry.gif
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There has been a report that the flavor might crack certain plastics, o-rings I'm not sure. Could be though.

QUOTE(galaxy_2088 @ Feb 29 2016, 09:46 AM)
I luv u man. thx for the links.
I plan to get a similar scale like your avatar.  brows.gif
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No problem. Find some scale that has 0.01 resolution and has "TARE" function. Make sure it has long cut off time as well so you could take your time while mixing.
If you can afford it buy some high quality like American Weigh scales on Amazon, but it is expensive lol.
Mine is nothing fancy but gets the job done just fine, you can find it on Lelong or Fasttech. brows.gif

QUOTE(nekkidgramma @ Feb 29 2016, 10:14 AM)
Wait, where did you find TFA Key Lime? I haven't been in the loop much nowadays, my buddy just closed his vape shop so I don't get free toys to test and share with you guys.
Got mine from lelong as well. Just make sure it has a 'Tare' button and long cut-off time.
Apparently sex sells plus, it's Malaysia. *shrugs*
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Agreed and I might add a bit, go for 0.01 resolution as well.

I found 2 places for your TFA Key Lime:
The Flavourist
Facebook/DIYyourOwnFlavor

QUOTE(andyng38 @ Feb 29 2016, 12:55 PM)
Err...I'm pretty sure I used the phrase "failed pisang mas extract". Failed...kaput...hangkang...down the drainhole! It was vapable with very good flavor (better than any of the chemical-tasting and scented flavorings out there), but the coil would clog up superfast with banana-scented carbon. Extracts of coffee, tea, star anise, cengkih all ok, and hella lot cheaper than buying flavorings.

And you're absolutely right. Ripe bananas smell like marker pens, and the common chemical responsible for that is ethylene; that's the gas which is produced by fruits to bring on ripening. The riper it gets, the more ethylene there is wafting around it.

I started extracting banana cos I hated the very artificial chemical taste of banana flavorings. There is a partially good workaround that problem though but I can only pass it to you tomorrow. Today's my last day mixing for a certain organization, but I'm still honor-bound by a gentleman's agreement to keep quiet about certain things till 1st March. Not long to go! rclxm9.gif
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Here is the chemical substances found in TFA Ripe Banana they're using to "mimic" the smell and taste of a ripe bananas. Found it on their site.

NOTE - All concentrated flavors are made from these types of molecules, even "natural" flavors
contain the types of items you will see listed in this section.
For example, natural cinnamon that you bake with contains cinnamic aldehyde.
Natural vanilla extract contains vanillin.

* PRELIMINARY DATA *
We will post new data as it becomes available - these are approximations only and are not definitive.

COMPONENT Percentage Description
Isoamyl Isovalerate >= 10% green, fruity apple
Propylene Glycol >= 10% no taste
Isoamyl acetate >= 10% sweet fruity, banana-like with a green ripe nuance
Eugenol >= 1% and < 10% sweet, warm spicy clove with phenolic and woody nuances
Limonene >= 1% and < 10% citrus herbal terpene camphor
Butanoic acid, 2-methyl-, 3-methylbutyl ester >= 1% and < 10% fresh green apple and pear with a waxy skin like nuance
Neryl acetate < 1% floral, rosy, soapy, fruity, pear and tropical
Vanillin < 1% vanilla, vanillin, sweet, creamy, spicy, phenolic and milky
Pinene <beta-> < .5% appears in this flavor as a component of a natural extract - piney,minty with spicy nuance
Geranial < .5% found in natural plant material
3-Hexen-1-ol, (Z)- < .5% fresh, green, raw fruity with a pungent depth
Citronellyl acetate < .5% floral, waxy, aldehydic, with green fruity nuances. fruity pear and apple like
Neral < .5% found in natural plant materials
Propanoate <isopentyl-> < .5% sweet, banana, fruity, tutti frutti, apple, melon, tropical and pineapple-like

The exact percentage of each substances is the property of TPA, but you get the rough "idea" what they're using to get the flavor profile. Some of the flavors they carry might not have a break down list of components like above (mostly their DX version or newer flavors), perhaps they're not ready to make it public just yet but most of their flavors data are out there on their site.

Anyway, andyng38 you must have a very sophisticated lab equip. to be able to extract your own banana flavor from a raw banana. I find it too much of a variables at play to get it right, for example like you said the sugar content in the raw bananas itself.

I mean who would've thought, while we were mixing our own liquid, they're mixing their own more advance chemical substances just to nailed certain flavors down. lol thumbup.gif The chemists at these flavorings company is impressive. nod.gif

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post Feb 29 2016, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(6oLsh0i_6o0z3 @ Feb 29 2016, 06:52 PM)
I don't think the color of nicotine is too much of a big deal, it turns slightly pale yellowish color or even darker yellowish when oxidized depending on how the supplier, seller, stores them.
Fresh nic should be colorless iinm. If the supplier, seller bought in large volume and then they rebottled it in a smaller volume to be sell here there is high chance the nic had been introduce with oxygen thus change the color a bit unless they have a sophisticated lab equipment to eliminates the oxygen completely when rebottling, which I doubt it.

I'm not sure if there is any seller over here that bought a pure nic (which is expensive) and diluted it themselves in PG/VG mix but I highly doubt it. I think mostly bought 100mg in large volume and just do rebottle.

Link below is not anything scientific, but have read anyway:
http://blog.v-ecigs.com/2014/03/what-does-color-of-my-nicotine-mean.html


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Yup, exactly, hence i would like to avoid those seller who did not handle their things properly.. The one i said i tossed away was yellowish to brown color, much more than i expected.. If pale yellowish for me still acceptable la.. They could prevent too much oxidation by using device/pump to transfer from the reservoir directly into new container, and work in a dark room. From conversation with several seller, most seller bring in 1000mg stock, and yes they need to perform dilution as they mostly selling 100mg and 48mg.. I also read that nic liquid are best kept in fridge for longer storage, some seller may just put them on shelves.. But overall, I'm mostly curious about their ability to maintain hygiene and perform correct dilution.

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QUOTE(melvintkw @ Feb 29 2016, 02:22 PM)
Anyone know what is the recipe to make DIY juice of Milkman & One Hit Wonder?
Would like to DIY for my all day vape...
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This is the highest rating I found on elr site. You could probably sub the FW bavarian cream in this recipe with the TFA one, not sure if its identical or not, but you can try.
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Read the recipe comments below:
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post Feb 29 2016, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(6oLsh0i_6o0z3 @ Feb 29 2016, 06:52 PM)
...

Anyway, andyng38 you must have a very sophisticated lab equip. to be able to extract your own banana flavor from a raw banana. I find it too much of a variables at play to get it right, for example like you said the sugar content in the raw bananas itself.

I mean who would've thought, while we were mixing our own liquid, they're mixing their own more advance chemical substances just to nailed certain flavors down. lol thumbup.gif The chemists at these flavorings company is impressive. nod.gif
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I was wondering as well...how did he do it. Was waiting for a youtube vid link of him extracting.
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Hi guys..

Need ur opinions...is normal muji cotton suitable with SS316L? If NO, what cotton is suitable? using uwell crown..tq
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post Feb 29 2016, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(talapook @ Feb 29 2016, 08:10 PM)
kak yaya ngan bro max promote dalam fb ok lagi. yang aku tak tahan yeop hashim tu. tengok muka dia pun rasa nak pelempang je.
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Wait until you taste his Cynara. LoL
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post Feb 29 2016, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(talapook @ Feb 29 2016, 08:10 PM)
kak yaya ngan bro max promote dalam fb ok lagi. yang aku tak tahan yeop hashim tu. tengok muka dia pun rasa nak pelempang je.
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hahahaha ini lol laugh.gif
What I've noticed is semua eliquid yang dia "review" best dan sedappppp je..takde yang tak sedap langsung..
Sell out much lol biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jameslionhart @ Feb 29 2016, 08:18 PM)
Wait until you taste his Cynara. LoL
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How was it? is it bad? lol laugh.gif
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QUOTE(talapook @ Feb 29 2016, 08:10 PM)
kak yaya ngan bro max promote dalam fb ok lagi. yang aku tak tahan yeop hashim tu. tengok muka dia pun rasa nak pelempang je.
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Hahahaa...confidence tu penting broooo..

Alamak Yaya dah tunang rupanya...
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post Feb 29 2016, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(6oLsh0i_6o0z3 @ Feb 29 2016, 08:59 PM)
hahahaha ini lol laugh.gif
What I've noticed is semua eliquid yang dia "review" best dan sedappppp je..takde yang tak sedap langsung..
Sell out much lol biggrin.gif
How was it? is it bad? lol laugh.gif
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Taste as good as his face. brows.gif
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QUOTE(jameslionhart @ Feb 29 2016, 09:05 PM)
Taste as good as his face.  brows.gif
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whats the setup for my man been trying it at 0.8ohm and 1 ohm and 1.4ohm it all taste like crap to me

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