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TSadz83
post Jan 13 2016, 02:48 PM, updated 10y ago

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Hi guys. Need to ask a bit. Sometimes, i see shops name in the signboard like "zoom tyres " but there's a little company names states " dimiliki oleh zoom sport " like dat.
My question is, which need to register with SSM? How can put shop name different from business registered name?
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post Jan 14 2016, 12:06 AM

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The zoom sports own other shops and bussiness such as zoom mini market, zoom chill & bar, zoom travel agency, zoom reflexology, zoom production etc
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post Jan 14 2016, 01:28 AM

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Exactly my thoughts. So, how is the process? Which need to register with SSM? Thanks
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post Jan 14 2016, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(adz83 @ Jan 13 2016, 02:48 PM)
Hi guys. Need to ask a bit. Sometimes,  i see shops name in the signboard like "zoom tyres " but there's a little company names  states " dimiliki oleh zoom sport " like dat.
My question is, which need to register with SSM? How can put shop name different from business registered name?
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Company name and brand name is two different thing.

Company name is the official name for the entity, while brand name is the name of a certain stuff.

Company name registered under SSM while brand name is registered under MyIPO (Intellectual Property Office)

As a metaphorical example, you IC name is William, but when you go on stage, you are known as Liam.
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 14 2016, 10:20 AM)
Company name and brand name is two different thing.

Company name is the official name for the entity, while brand name is the name of a certain stuff.

Company name registered under SSM while brand name is registered under MyIPO (Intellectual Property Office)

As a metaphorical example, you IC name is William, but when you go on stage, you are known as Liam.
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Thanks a lot for the explanation. So, shop name can use brand name, right? Does MyIPO require fees to register?
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post Jan 15 2016, 05:41 AM

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QUOTE(adz83 @ Jan 14 2016, 11:30 PM)
Thanks a lot for the explanation. So, shop name can use brand name, right?  Does MyIPO require fees to register?
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Yes, shop name can use brand name without any problem.

An very good example is McDonald's in Malaysia, where the company that own McDonald is actually Golden Arches Restaurants Sdn Bhd
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post Jan 15 2016, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 15 2016, 05:41 AM)
Yes, shop name can use brand name without any problem.

An very good example is McDonald's in Malaysia, where the company that own McDonald is actually Golden Arches Restaurants Sdn Bhd
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You're right. I tried looking at myIPO site but can't seem to find how to search for registered brands/names. Anybody knows?
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post Jan 15 2016, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(adz83 @ Jan 15 2016, 09:07 AM)
You're right. I tried looking at myIPO site but can't seem to find how to search for registered brands/names. Anybody knows?
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Just like SSM, you need to go MyIPO office and pay for the search/inquiry
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post Jan 15 2016, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 15 2016, 05:41 AM)
Yes, shop name can use brand name without any problem.

An very good example is McDonald's in Malaysia, where the company that own McDonald is actually Golden Arches Restaurants Sdn Bhd
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Mcdonald tu franchais. Tapi dibawa masuk oleh syarikat Golden Arches.. syarikat golden arches akan cari pula sesiapa yang ada modal bukak pulak branch McD.
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post Jan 15 2016, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 15 2016, 09:18 AM)
Just like SSM, you need to go MyIPO office and pay for the search/inquiry
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SSM can check registered company names once u registered to e-ssm.info.
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post Jan 16 2016, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(adz83 @ Jan 15 2016, 11:59 PM)
SSM can check registered company names once u registered to e-ssm.info.
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IF you had tried e-ssm info services before, you will know the name search function only work as best as a 1980 library index system.
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post Jan 16 2016, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 16 2016, 01:54 AM)
IF you had tried e-ssm info services before, you will know the name search function only work as best as a 1980 library index system.
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You're saying that the search was incomplete? damn...
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post Jan 16 2016, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(adz83 @ Jan 16 2016, 12:20 PM)
You're saying that the search was incomplete?  damn...
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Yes, must be identical match then will only show.

Also, some company have registered multiple name in different languages.

Also, if your name is vague acronym, such RW Enterprise, might get rejected even tho nobody register that, because it resemble of Resort World Bhd.

So end up most people will go counter and pay for the name search, and change/amend accordingly with ssm officer
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post Jan 17 2016, 05:23 AM

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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Jan 16 2016, 06:24 PM)
Yes, must be identical match then will only show.

Also,  some company have registered multiple name in different languages.

Also, if your name is vague acronym,  such RW Enterprise, might get rejected even tho nobody register that, because it resemble of Resort World Bhd.

So end up most people will go counter and pay for the name search, and change/amend accordingly with ssm officer
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I see.. I'm guessing the same process applies for myIPO as well, right? Any idea how much to register a name brand? Or anyone experienced dealing with myIPO?
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post Jan 17 2016, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(adz83 @ Jan 17 2016, 05:23 AM)
I see..  I'm guessing the same process applies for myIPO as well, right? Any idea how much to register a name brand? Or anyone experienced dealing with myIPO?
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buat bisnes apa? if u bisnes lke Qu Puteh u go register. if just name on signboard not first priority register.
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post Jan 18 2016, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jan 17 2016, 08:10 PM)
buat bisnes apa? if u bisnes lke Qu Puteh u go register. if just name on signboard not first priority register.
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Jual air only. Just scared later got same brand/shop name. Huhuhu
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post Jan 18 2016, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(adz83 @ Jan 18 2016, 07:05 AM)
Jual air only. Just scared later got same brand/shop name. Huhuhu
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francais ke apa
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post Jan 18 2016, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jan 18 2016, 07:54 AM)
francais ke apa
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Bukan. Just xnk limited to 1 jenis perniagaan/produk when register ssm. Tu yg confuse.

 

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