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post May 20 2021, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ May 19 2021, 02:44 PM)
Windows 10 21H1 (May 2021) update has been released
If you can't find it in your Windows Update, download the updater manually from the link below

https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/software-download/windows10

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Saw the new/latest update as well. I think I'm gonna wait a bit.
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post May 20 2021, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(smallvill3 @ May 20 2021, 09:22 AM)
Download Windows 10 21H1 iso yesterday and fresh format.
Smooth experience so far.  icon_idea.gif
Same here, updated 5 computers to 21H1, no issues whatsoever
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post May 20 2021, 10:52 PM

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Just saw this in my windows update.

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post May 21 2021, 11:42 AM

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Have just updated mine to 21H1.
Seems fine. No issues whatsoever. Phew!
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post May 21 2021, 11:52 AM

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my win10 able disable auto update officially. i curious did anyone get?
not mod just untick from wizard
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post May 21 2021, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ewww! @ May 21 2021, 11:42 AM)
Have just updated mine to 21H1.
Seems fine. No issues whatsoever. Phew!
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Got what noticeable changes
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post May 22 2021, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ewww! @ May 20 2021, 02:55 PM)
Saw the new/latest update as well. I think I'm gonna wait a bit.
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QUOTE(smallvill3 @ May 20 2021, 09:22 AM)
Download Windows 10 21H1 iso yesterday and fresh format.
Smooth experience so far.  icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ May 20 2021, 04:03 PM)
Same here, updated 5 computers to 21H1, no issues whatsoever
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 20 2021, 10:52 PM)
Just saw this in my windows update.

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QUOTE(Ewww! @ May 21 2021, 11:42 AM)
Have just updated mine to 21H1.
Seems fine. No issues whatsoever. Phew!
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QUOTE(akhito @ May 21 2021, 12:38 PM)
Got what noticeable changes
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This is the most boring "major" update. Seems nothing much is change, even change log from internet mentioned seems only allow default external WebCAM set default for laptop that already have build-in webCAM.

I download the update less than 1 minute, update less than 1 minute also, very obvious the update file was very small.

So Far So Good, no issue but no changes also... ...

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post May 22 2021, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ May 22 2021, 01:08 PM)
This is the most boring "major" update. Seems nothing much is change, even change log from internet mentioned seems only allow default external WebCAM set default for laptop that already have build-in webCAM.

I download the update less than 1 minute, update less than 1 minute also, very obvious the update file was very small.

So Far So Good, no issue but no changes also... ...

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Yeah. I did not see any changes also. But i do fell they are slowly removing/ changing all the Control Panel items to be in line with windows look. Still do not like how they bury important stuff to fix windows problems.
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post May 22 2021, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 22 2021, 01:13 PM)
Yeah. I did not see any changes also. But i do fell they are slowly removing/ changing all the Control Panel items to be in line with windows look. Still do not like how they bury important stuff to fix windows problems.
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It takes too long already, they should move all from Control Panel to Settings and totally disabled Control Panel. It is redundant two apps but for one function only.

Wonder how hard it was, take 5 years already but still unable to complete it.

This video actually very truth criticism. Haha!


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post May 22 2021, 01:27 PM

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Because the system administrators are still using the old style due to it being easily accessible. You do not need miles of mouse travel to find a configurable item like Metro does. Everything in a window. I wonder if you notice the items even though it is shown, is spread out far between the screen. Sample,

Windows 7
Control panel - System - System Properties

(I can change Name/ Workgroup/ Restore/ Device Manager)

Windows 10
Settings - System - (Scroll bottom) About - Advanced (Right Side) - System Properties

(While i still see the same system window, i can think that all these would be spread out in hidden manner or removed altogether)

The beef is the menu is being hidden from people who uses it to manage windows for corporate use. MS idea is that these items should be disabled or enabled via network administrator through policies.

But these are not for people that are tech savvy friendly. I also wonder how do you guide a person through phone to solve problems? Because Win 10 menu are not easily guidable through voice alone. (Thank god for remote software like Ultra viewer or anydesk)

My visually impaired friends also faces such problems. They do have 3rd party user interface apps like JAWS that does a decent method of helping them use windows. But it seemingly made harder as the interface changes. Their reliance on TAB key is almost removed.

The key item for Windows to me and some of the people i know that works in the industry is it being problem free/ low learning curve and ease of deploying support. New Win10 is slowly removing all these.

This post has been edited by netmatrix: May 22 2021, 01:59 PM
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post May 22 2021, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ May 22 2021, 01:08 PM)
This is the most boring "major" update. Seems nothing much is change, even change log from internet mentioned seems only allow default external WebCAM set default for laptop that already have build-in webCAM.

I download the update less than 1 minute, update less than 1 minute also, very obvious the update file was very small.

So Far So Good, no issue but no changes also... ...

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ok thanks for review then maybe I will update it later during 21H2 for system wide DOH.
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post May 22 2021, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 22 2021, 01:27 PM)
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Because the system administrators are still using the old style due to it being easily accessible. You do not need miles of mouse travel to find a configurable item like Metro does. Everything in a window. I wonder if you notice the items even though it is shown, is spread out far between the screen. Sample,

Windows 7
Control panel - System - System Properties

(I can change Name/ Workgroup/ Restore/ Device Manager)

Windows 10
Settings - System - (Scroll bottom) About - Advanced (Right Side) - System Properties

(While i still see the same system window, i can think that all these would be spread out in hidden manner or removed altogether)

The beef is the menu is being hidden from people who uses it to manage windows for corporate use. MS idea is that these items should be disabled or enabled via network administrator through policies.

But these are not for people that are tech savvy friendly. I also wonder how do you guide a person through phone to solve problems? Because Win 10 menu are not easily guidable through voice alone. (Thank god for remote software like Ultra viewer or anydesk)

My visually impaired friends also faces such problems. They do have 3rd party user interface apps like JAWS that does a decent method of helping them use windows. But it seemingly made harder as the interface changes. Their reliance on TAB key is almost removed.

The key item for Windows to me and some of the people i know that works in the industry is it being problem free/ low learning curve and ease of deploying support. New Win10 is slowly removing all these.
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I agreed they make it less friendly than before, they should make it more easier and less step but what they did is opposite. Anyway they already start they will total removed Control Panel soon. They is no different remove step by step than straight removed all as at the end it is all removed.

Straight all removed, user no choice and need to adapted it.

QUOTE(akhito @ May 22 2021, 01:46 PM)
ok thanks for review then maybe I will update it later during 21H2 for system wide DOH.
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That update just a minutes like normal security patches, I think no harm just updated it. 21H2 still quite sometimes before official release.
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post May 24 2021, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ May 22 2021, 01:08 PM)

I download the update less than 1 minute, update less than 1 minute also, very obvious the update file was very small.
I had upgraded mine to 21H1 taken around 3 hrs plus, is not your said 1+1 min.
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QUOTE(askm @ May 24 2021, 10:51 AM)
I had upgraded mine to 21H1 taken around 3 hrs plus, is not your said 1+1 min.
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what build version do u upgrading from??
from 20h2 to 21h1 or older below 20h2 upgrading from?

i also upgrading my client pc from 20h2 to 21h1 also just between 3 min time only.

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post May 24 2021, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(askm @ May 24 2021, 10:51 AM)
I had upgraded mine to 21H1 taken around 3 hrs plus, is not your said 1+1 min.
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What is your previous build? From 20H2 to 21H1 around 1 min completed.
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post May 25 2021, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ May 24 2021, 02:31 PM)
What is your previous build? From 20H2 to 21H1 around 1 min completed.
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upgrade 21h1 from 20h2 through microsoft updater

1) Desktop intel i3 with SSD taken around 1 hour plus.
2) Laptop intel i3 with HDD taken around 3 hour plus.

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QUOTE(Vincent6596 @ May 24 2021, 01:35 PM)
what build version do u upgrading from??
from 20h2 to 21h1 or older below 20h2 upgrading from?

i also upgrading my client pc from 20h2 to 21h1 also just between 3 min time only.
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Thanks for the information you also finished within few minutes.

QUOTE(askm @ May 25 2021, 12:27 PM)
upgrade 21h1 from 20h2 through microsoft updater

1) Desktop intel i3 with SSD taken around 1 hour plus.
2) Laptop intel i3 with HDD taken around 3 hour plus.
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You see not only me, others people also update within few minutes completed.

Microsoft Updater? You get from Microsoft website? If yes then it is full image. This will take long time especially if your internet speed very slow.

I update thru Windows Update, it is a min or two only.

By the way my processor is AMD Ryzen 9 5900X with NVMe SSD.
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post May 25 2021, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ May 25 2021, 01:02 PM)
Thanks for the information you also finished within few minutes.
You see not only me, others people also update within few minutes completed.

Microsoft Updater? You get from Microsoft website? If yes then it is full image. This will take long time especially if your internet speed very slow.

I update thru Windows Update, it is a min or two only.

By the way my processor is AMD Ryzen 9 5900X with NVMe SSD.
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mine also update thru windows update only
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QUOTE(Vincent6596 @ May 25 2021, 07:07 PM)
mine also update thru windows update only
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Ya, It is not required update using full image.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ May 22 2021, 01:27 PM)
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Because the system administrators are still using the old style due to it being easily accessible. You do not need miles of mouse travel to find a configurable item like Metro does. Everything in a window. I wonder if you notice the items even though it is shown, is spread out far between the screen. Sample,

Windows 7
Control panel - System - System Properties

(I can change Name/ Workgroup/ Restore/ Device Manager)

Windows 10
Settings - System - (Scroll bottom) About - Advanced (Right Side) - System Properties

(While i still see the same system window, i can think that all these would be spread out in hidden manner or removed altogether)

The beef is the menu is being hidden from people who uses it to manage windows for corporate use. MS idea is that these items should be disabled or enabled via network administrator through policies.

But these are not for people that are tech savvy friendly. I also wonder how do you guide a person through phone to solve problems? Because Win 10 menu are not easily guidable through voice alone. (Thank god for remote software like Ultra viewer or anydesk)

My visually impaired friends also faces such problems. They do have 3rd party user interface apps like JAWS that does a decent method of helping them use windows. But it seemingly made harder as the interface changes. Their reliance on TAB key is almost removed.

The key item for Windows to me and some of the people i know that works in the industry is it being problem free/ low learning curve and ease of deploying support. New Win10 is slowly removing all these.
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hi i got two frens using JAWS.

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