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post Jan 12 2016, 09:34 AM, updated 10y ago

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hi guys, just wanted your opinion. Recently i noticed in a lot of ID show rooms and also in a lot of ID from HabitatMY, they are using the type of ball (like in the picture) type of downlight for almost the entire house (living dining and kitchen) instead of those traditional 12W 4" led downlight..... any pros and cons of it ?from the look... it does look nice.. but was wondering if it is too "focused" ....


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post Jan 12 2016, 03:05 PM

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Not sure about the pro but the bad thing is if 1 side of the light is dead you have to change both
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post Jan 12 2016, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jan 12 2016, 03:05 PM)
Not sure about the pro but the bad thing is if 1 side of the light is dead you have to change both
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hmm but they also have a single bulb version... exactly the same .. it has a more focused light... no one uses this in the place of normal downlight ?

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post Jan 12 2016, 03:48 PM

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Can't really see from your picture but if I guess correctly you are asking about something like a tiny spotlight MR16 bulb?

The difference is the effect. Those normal downlight lights the room evenly. They are also much brighter. The eyeball you are talking about uses a MR16 bulb with different angle spread of the the light beam. Instead of an even light, you get pools of lights.

My apartment uses these kind of eyeballs. I much prefer pools of light as compare with even lighting
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post Jan 12 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 03:48 PM)
Can't really see from your picture but if I guess correctly you are asking about something like a tiny spotlight MR16 bulb?

The difference is the effect. Those normal downlight lights the room evenly. They are also much brighter. The eyeball you are talking about uses a MR16 bulb with different angle spread of the the light beam. Instead of an even light, you get pools of lights.

My apartment uses these kind of eyeballs. I much prefer pools of light as compare with even lighting
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Attached a new pic. It also come in a single bulb version and can tilt. How do you find the spotlight bulb ? is it bright enough for the living hall ? Aesthetic i think it looks cooler to the ceiling though tongue.gif


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post Jan 12 2016, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Jan 12 2016, 04:37 PM)
Attached a new pic. It also come in a single bulb version and can tilt. How do you find the spotlight bulb ? is it bright enough for the living hall ? Aesthetic i think it looks cooler to the ceiling though tongue.gif
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These look more like ordinary downlight to me except you can position it. I dunno, I haven't seen these working irl before

Mine are like this -
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post Jan 12 2016, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 04:40 PM)
These look more like ordinary downlight to me except you can position it. I dunno, I haven't seen these working irl before

Mine are like this -
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this not eyeball ?
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post Jan 12 2016, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(FireIceCombo @ Jan 12 2016, 04:45 PM)
this not eyeball ?
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Dunno boss, I called it eyeball but I'm not sure the real name
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post Jan 12 2016, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 04:46 PM)
Dunno boss, I called it eyeball but I'm not sure the real name
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nobody cares about real name. we not electrician also. as long as shop ppl understand us can liao lol
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post Jan 12 2016, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(FireIceCombo @ Jan 12 2016, 04:47 PM)
nobody cares about real name. we not electrician also. as long as shop ppl understand us can liao lol
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Yeah but different type of light give different effect... Just wonderting all this "eyeball" led when uses in the living and dining area replacing those conventional downlight, how it feels..
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post Jan 12 2016, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Jan 12 2016, 04:49 PM)
Yeah but different type of light give different effect... Just wonderting all this "eyeball" led when uses in the living and dining area replacing those conventional downlight, how it feels..
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sharp on the eyes. stinging to most.

eyeball usually spread spectrum very concentrated. meaning u get a streak of light instead of the usual whole area. so the focus beam good for highlighting something, like a display vase or painting or some art thing, or some diy structure thing.
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QUOTE(FireIceCombo @ Jan 12 2016, 04:47 PM)
nobody cares about real name. we not electrician also. as long as shop ppl understand us can liao lol
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Yup exactly 😝
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post Jan 12 2016, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Jan 12 2016, 04:49 PM)
Yeah but different type of light give different effect... Just wonderting all this "eyeball" led when uses in the living and dining area replacing those conventional downlight, how it feels..
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Dunno if you can see the effect here. This is what I mean by "pools of light". Some spots are darker.
Obviously this is not everyone's cup of tea. Most prefer bright even lighting. Pools of light creates more atmosphere I guess

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post Jan 12 2016, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 05:00 PM)
Yup exactly 😝
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post Jan 12 2016, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 05:09 PM)
Dunno if you can see the effect here. This is what I mean by "pools of light". Some spots are darker.
Obviously this is not everyone's cup of tea. Most prefer bright even lighting. Pools of light creates more atmosphere I guess

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Is that your house ? Feels Very comfortable ! Minimalist kitchen <3
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post Jan 12 2016, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 04:40 PM)
These look more like ordinary downlight to me except you can position it. I dunno, I haven't seen these working irl before

Mine are like this -
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This is not LED. And has a shorter lifespan. Consume more electricity too.

Had many of this previously. Now all changed to LED. 5w, 7 or 9w type. Not cheap though.

But previously had to change Bulbs regularly and pretty hot nad high electricity bill. rclxub.gif
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post Jan 12 2016, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 05:09 PM)
Dunno if you can see the effect here. This is what I mean by "pools of light". Some spots are darker.
Obviously this is not everyone's cup of tea. Most prefer bright even lighting. Pools of light creates more atmosphere I guess

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Im using same lighting as u in my living and dining area. it makes my interior looks more expensive then it is. i really like it. i bought it from philips (LED light bulb) cost about RM55 per piece only.

my advice to others, dun buy 'no brand' LED bulb. philips can last for few yrs.. 'no brand' got to change it every yr.
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post Jan 12 2016, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(sunshine-kc @ Jan 12 2016, 07:21 PM)
This is not LED. And has a shorter lifespan. Consume more electricity too.

Had many of this previously. Now all changed to LED. 5w, 7 or 9w type. Not cheap though.

But previously had to change Bulbs regularly and pretty hot nad high electricity bill.  rclxub.gif
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Short life span?

I have this halogen light in my master room cabinet counter for 18yrs. Never change before from the day install. It run on 12v.
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post Jan 12 2016, 07:43 PM

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post Jan 12 2016, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(B u B u @ Jan 12 2016, 07:15 PM)
Is that your house ? Feels Very comfortable ! Minimalist kitchen <3
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Yes it is. Thanks
I just moved in around May 2015. Still haven't "decorate" the walls yet

My kitchen is super tiny but it's sufficient
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post Jan 12 2016, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(sunshine-kc @ Jan 12 2016, 07:21 PM)
This is not LED. And has a shorter lifespan. Consume more electricity too.

Had many of this previously. Now all changed to LED. 5w, 7 or 9w type. Not cheap though.

But previously had to change Bulbs regularly and pretty hot nad high electricity bill.  rclxub.gif
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No the one in the picture is halogen bulbs but I'm using this same Philips holder with LED MR16 bulbs. I'm using Philips 7 watt bulb. Bulb, holder and transformer all cost about Rm100 each set
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post Jan 12 2016, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(lightbulk @ Jan 12 2016, 07:36 PM)
Im using same lighting as u in my living and dining area. it makes my interior looks more expensive then it is.  i really like it.  i bought it from philips (LED light bulb) cost about RM55 per piece only. 

my advice to others, dun buy 'no brand' LED bulb. philips can last for few yrs.. 'no brand' got to change it every yr.
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Yup agree with you. My apartment using this Philips LED
7w. Even the transformer/driver using Philips

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Driver = Philips ET-E10

MR16 LED - MASTER LED 7-50W 4000K MR16 24D/36D Dim
http://www.lighting.philips.com/main/prof/...7508_EU/product

Holder = QBS027
http://www.lighting.philips.com/main/prof/...0269_EU/product

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 07:45 PM)
Yes it is. Thanks
I just moved in around May 2015. Still haven't "decorate" the walls yet

My kitchen is super tiny but it's sufficient
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Mind to share your kitchen and dining full view pls?
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post Jan 12 2016, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(B u B u @ Jan 12 2016, 08:08 PM)
Mind to share your kitchen and dining full view pls?
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the hob and sink side - the width is only like 6 feet.
i dont have any wall cabinets
my washing machine and dryer is behind my fridge but facing the other way
lucky i got space for a peninsular counter


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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 08:44 PM)
the hob and sink side - the width is only like 6 feet.
i dont have any wall cabinets
my washing machine and dryer is behind my fridge but facing the other way
lucky i got space for a peninsular counter
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The lights make the whole place look so much more premium, nice. The granite sink also look nice.

How much it costs for the kitchen cabinet and the peninsular ya?

The pendant light need some cable management laugh.gif
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post Jan 12 2016, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(B u B u @ Jan 12 2016, 09:57 PM)
The lights make the whole place look so much more premium, nice. The granite sink also look nice.

How much it costs for the kitchen cabinet and the peninsular ya?

The pendant light need some cable management  laugh.gif
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Oh noooo....the pendant light cable is suppose to be liddat. My indon installer go and bundle up the wires and was about to tie wrap it. That's why you see that the cable is not running smooth and rounded. I had to " straighten" it out and bend it accordingly but it's very difficult since the table is in the way.

Suppose to look like this lol -
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Kitchen cabinet from signature is about 9k using acrylic. Caesarstone Quartz is another 9k
Sink is a Blanco Dalago 45.
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post Jan 13 2016, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 07:53 PM)
Yup agree with you. My whole apartment using this Philips LED
7w. Even the transformer/driver using Philips

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Actually why didn't you choose GU10 instead of MR16? No need transformer/driver.
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post Jan 13 2016, 06:17 AM

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QUOTE(parsona @ Jan 13 2016, 01:10 AM)
Actually why didn't you choose GU10 instead of MR16? No need transformer/driver.
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Many reasons.
My track light using MR16 so GU10 is not going to work.
I prefer separate driver and led. GU10 have buildin driver. Once rosak have to throw the whole thing. Separate driver for MR16 only cost less than Rm10
Their size is not standard and most wont fit your light fixtures properly due to their size.
One more thing, I prefer changing a bad MR16 using 12v than to touch a GU10 using 240v 😅

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post Jan 13 2016, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 13 2016, 06:17 AM)
Many reasons.
My track light using MR16 so GU10 is not going to work.
I prefer separate driver and led.  GU10 have buildin driver. Once rosak have to throw the whole thing. Separate driver for MR16 only cost less than Rm10
Their size is not standard and most wont fit your light fixtures properly due to their size.
One more thing, I prefer changing a bad MR16 using 12v than to touch a GU10 using 240v 😅
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hmm your house no fan.... air-cond 24/7 ?
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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Jan 13 2016, 08:09 AM)
hmm your house no fan.... air-cond 24/7 ?
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i got stand fans, no ceiling fans biggrin.gif
aircon used mostly during sleeping time
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post Feb 15 2016, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 05:09 PM)
Dunno if you can see the effect here. This is what I mean by "pools of light". Some spots are darker.
Obviously this is not everyone's cup of tea. Most prefer bright even lighting. Pools of light creates more atmosphere I guess

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Hi bro..may i know what's the distance between two eyeball at your entrance ? Planning something similar 😉
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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Feb 15 2016, 09:10 AM)
Hi bro..may i know what's the distance between two eyeball at your entrance ? Planning something similar 😉
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you have to measure your own space and divide. mine is not equally divided due to i have a counter top at one side, a wall and a door. I need each sections to be lit so I place the leds in the center of these. it range from 2.5ft to 3.5ft

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 04:40 PM)
These look more like ordinary downlight to me except you can position it. I dunno, I haven't seen these working irl before

Mine are like this -
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Hey, mind sharing what PHILIPS housing model this is?
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QUOTE(Stasis @ Feb 22 2016, 02:01 AM)
Hey, mind sharing what PHILIPS housing model this is?
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philips qbs027
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QUOTE(zzzhhhzzz @ Jan 12 2016, 04:37 PM)
Attached a new pic. It also come in a single bulb version and can tilt. How do you find the spotlight bulb ? is it bright enough for the living hall ? Aesthetic i think it looks cooler to the ceiling though tongue.gif
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I like this light design. Looks modern. But i couldn't find any from nearby lighting shop. Any recommend? And how is the feedback?
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 22 2016, 06:12 AM)
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Thanks!
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jan 12 2016, 05:09 PM)
Dunno if you can see the effect here. This is what I mean by "pools of light". Some spots are darker.
Obviously this is not everyone's cup of tea. Most prefer bright even lighting. Pools of light creates more atmosphere I guess

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Hello... what is your eyeball power in watt?
I bought 3W but I havent install it yet & I’m wondering if 3W is good enough?
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QUOTE(physz.86 @ Oct 20 2020, 04:29 AM)
Hello... what is your eyeball power in watt?
I bought 3W but I havent install it yet & I’m wondering if 3W is good enough?
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Mine is 7 watt
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Is there any interior spotlight COB introduced like use in the hotel room, not the eyeball type, which is viewpoint ceiling couldn't view the light one?

 

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