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post Jun 11 2021, 07:16 PM

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Hi Everyone
Currently, my espresso set up is Delonghi Dedica espresso machine and Eureka Mignon Manuale. Cannot seems to get the taste of espresso right even thought I can get 14 grams ground coffee and 30-32 grams espresso output in 30-35 sec. Coffee always seems to taste a bit bitter and need a bit of sugar in my latte. Suspecting bitterness due to over extraction due to 15 bar brewing pressure specified for the Dedica.

Contemplating upgrading to one of the following:-
1) WPM KD-210S2 and mod to add an OPV to set the brewing pressure to 10 bars

2) Milesto EM19M3. Conflicting information; J Coffee, the local supplier, says machine is spec at 15 bars but brochures in alot of Chinese web site says 9 bars. A Singaporean wrote in Reddit to says his dealer confirm pump is spec at 15 bars, however the OPV was adjusted to 9 bars

3) WPM KD-310 and mod to add OPV to set brewing pressure to 10 bars

WPM is a rebadge of Sunbeam (EM6910 and Torino, respectively) in Australia and in their forum those who had added an OPV to their espresso machine reported thicker, creamier and sweet espresso coffee extracted. Tikietic have you mod your KD-210 ? Where did you get it done ?

However, regarding Milesto I am not able to obtain much information from the internet.

Which upgrade root should I take ? Opinions from Kopi Sifu highly appreciated. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 11 2021, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jun 11 2021, 07:57 PM)
The type of bean affects the bitterness as well.
Robusta will be more bitter.
Arabica will be smoother.
Dark roasts will be more bitter.
Medium roast is more balanced.
Grind coarser.
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Tqvm. I was extracting Arabica dark dry roast becos I like the fragrance. Will try with medium roast
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post Jun 11 2021, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 11 2021, 09:29 PM)
temperature affects extraction more than pressure

also if your grinder is quite new and burrs not set...you get more fines

your machine and grinder should give acceptable espresso... machine using pressurized portafilter or you modded it?

btw... the timing and weights are just rough guidelines... you can adjust to your taste
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I owned the grinder for 2 months. Yes was extracting with bottomless portafilter with a non pressurised basket. Tqvm
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post Jun 12 2021, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 12 2021, 01:45 PM)
darker roast is actually sweeter compared to medium roast... it develops the sugar more... but not too dark like black French roast

it's also much easier to grind because it's more brittle... and doesn't wear/seat your burrs as well... 2 months home use is actually not a lot even for medium roast... after 20-30 kilo then your burrs gets better

so yeah can try medium roasts first and see how that goes

I think it's a bit early to start looking for upgrades...but obviously a better machine will give better output

one test you can do is grind coarser n use the pressurized portafilter for taste comparison... this just to check if it's grinder/beans or temperature problem

just to add... darker roast the beans expansion is more, and thus more porous... so it's easier on extractions, including the bitter compounds... to control/limit this, coarser grind, lower temp and don't over extract wrt time/blonding is key.
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Tqvm. Will try as advised. Cheers notworthy.gif
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post Jun 14 2021, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(imceobichi @ Jun 13 2021, 02:22 PM)
Milesto is the best price to performance machine among them

Where can you get dual boiler machine below rm2k?

A DB breville will cost at least rm5k already

Don’t fret too much about the pressure bar

I did some research

Almost all coffee machine come with standard 15 bar pressure right now

Unless u go higher end or mod the machine with opv to achieve the consistent 9 bar for espresso
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Concurred regarding Milesto
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post Jun 14 2021, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(graphidz @ Jun 14 2021, 10:30 AM)
To each their own I guess? I'd rather take something more hassle but confirm can tahan some abuse than something that's cheaply made.

I'm no hardcore environmentalist, but if the machine broke down not repairable within a few months, that's a total waste and not environmentally friendly
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My guess are you are referring to Milesto. You may be correct. There is not much information regarding these machine. Could Lowyat forumers please help to provide more info. icon_question.gif

 

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