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ymeng85
post Sep 22 2017, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(squallx840 @ Sep 22 2017, 01:48 AM)
To be honest, it just looks like a normal conical burr grinder to me.
Maybe the reason its so expensive its the oak wood they used for the grinder's body.
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You'll want to watch the videos on it's grind retention.
Rated at +/- 0.2g and claims to have eliminated static. This is huge smile.gif
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post Sep 22 2017, 12:36 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Sep 22 2017, 10:16 AM)
Normal 63mm conical burr that’s has zero retention can be found lower than usd$500? Can share the product?
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No idea tongue.gif .

From my beginner's point of view, I can't really tell apart the difference

Noob question: Does the zero retention in the grinder can make huge difference for filter/drip coffee?

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post Sep 22 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(KenKai @ Sep 22 2017, 04:02 AM)
hi coffee lovers
so nice to see a whole thread and v2 too for this  brows.gif

just checking in...im using a Saeco Poemia with the given pressurised portafilter

is there any upgrades i can do with the poemia? or straight get a new machine? i read that the grinder is more important though - when using nonpressurised portafilter

i thought i saw someone using poemia with nonpressurised and pid somewhere here.. @lowkl
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Hi KenKai!

Welcome to the forum!

IMHO the Poemia is a great starter machine, as it's cheap, very simple in design, cheap, is easy to depressurize and re-pressurize if you choose, has been modded extensively (even controlled by an Arduino, with PID, pressure and volumetric control!), cheap, decent vibe motor....

Did I mention cheap as well? wink.gif

The zero cost & risk mod you can do is to depressurize. It takes just just a screwdriver and less than 5 minutes. And the process is completely reversible, as long as you take care not to break any component or lose the tiny spring inside. Honestly when I started I put it back in at least 3 times as getting a decent cup was a bit of a challenge.

The largest improvement mod in terms of consistency was definitely the PID. I got a rip-off REX C100 China PID controller for about RM 60 with the SSD and k-type thermocouple, and plunged in. Problem was, the unit was so cheapo that the auto-tuning didn't work, and it didn't come with the alarm function so I couldn't get it to control the steam. However, the temperature stability is great... I get less than 4 degree variation throughout the pull. Also, multiple shots taste the same. Also, I have temperature readout to know when the machine is ready.

Drilling off the bottom of the portafilter did not improve the quality of the shots at all but provided some espresso porn only.

In terms of spending money I fully support splurging on the grinder. The quality and consistency of the shots just jumped after getting the Mignon, and at the same time the stress level dropped tremendously. I can usually tune to within 3 seconds of the targeted time within 2 to 3 shots when using a new supply of beans.

Enjoy the journey!
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post Sep 22 2017, 09:01 PM

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Damn thanks for the tips! i guess i can start with the PID controller setup here using arduino , or even the one one you have

as for depressurizing the portafilter, i may try that too, since i have some beans around - though abit long kept in house already and having a manual hand grinder. my next big spend will be the grinder, im aiming for the Eureka Mignon too devil.gif

currently using Via Roma ground coffee. taste wise ok ok la, with steaming the dutch lady full cream milk the taste is acceptable for me and my family , though after 2nd-3rd shot onwards the taste gets off..too hot already.. after purge/flush water through some time its still having the burnt taste

also @ymeng85 i see at fb your shop closes at 11PM, when is the last order? im working night shift nearby your place only so i can stop by on some weekdays

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post Sep 23 2017, 04:51 AM

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QUOTE(squallx840 @ Sep 22 2017, 12:36 PM)
No idea tongue.gif  .

From my beginner's point of view, I can't really tell apart the difference

Noob question: Does the zero retention in the grinder can make huge difference for filter/drip coffee?
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take away the coffee retention part.
63mm conical burr under usd$500 for crowd funding prices..

what is comparable and priced lower?
don't tell me BARATZA ENCORE and hario skerton all same same just one electric and the other hand powered.
40mm burr and 63mm no diff.

if U cannot taste the difference no diff certainly.
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post Sep 23 2017, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Sep 23 2017, 04:51 AM)
take away the coffee retention part.
63mm conical burr under usd$500 for crowd funding prices..

what is comparable and priced lower?
don't tell me BARATZA ENCORE and hario skerton all same same just one electric and the other hand powered.
40mm burr and 63mm no diff.

if U cannot taste the difference no diff certainly.
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Good point, 63mm conical is crazy large
The reason you wanna go big on burr size is so that the grinder can actually spin slower yet produce a similiar output speed
This will reduce heat up in the burr and give you a "burnt" taste
Also, grind consistency changes when the burrs change temps. Having it at a consistent temp helps to keep things in control (but very valid only for espresso grind)
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