Good Choice, do share with us the results..

You may want to get a 350ML to for comparison. 200Ml may be too small and constricted when swirling the milk.

350ML for me is the sweet spot for milk frothing for around 100ML each time. Bearing in mind that you will have to tilt the jug slightly, the milk volume will approximately double, you will need space to swirl the milk and "bang" the milk.

This post has been edited by rytopa: Apr 2 2018, 10:07 AM

Based on the machine you previously posted, i think ur steam tip could be pannarello steam wand style, making the steaming process different compared to the normal steam wands.

Could be likely ur prep work, preparing the puck for extraction. There are alot of youtube videos about it..

You could also try other types of beans .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGKPFu8yhi0

I think you just have to hang on tight till ur grinder arrives, the blade grinder is causing too much variations for us to pin point the problem..

Try dosing 20g into double basket, Off your preinfusion also.

Preinfusion usually will require a finer grind compared to a straight extraction. Could be why you are struggling with the extraction.

Would be good if you video ur espresso making process from the grinding to the tamping to the extract, could help to see where the problem lies.

Its normal, the flowrate is without any portafilter, without resistance.

You can upload to youtube for the video

I have a a feeling the sette grinder is causing the problem, its not grinding fine enough.

When did you buy your sette 270 grinder? Does it come with the extra shims to allow it to grind finer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sBpJcsF7-4

Sorry i dun have any experience with the Sette, you may need to check back with the seller.

You could try taking out the burrs and readjusting them wipe them clean and removing any grinds which may have been caught between the adjustment rings. Also maybe re tighten whatever screws u come across

It seems there are issues with the earlier batches of the sette 270 with regards to their QC, have you read their FAQ yet? Maybe it could help

https://clivecoffee.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/ar...Troubleshooting

from their FAQ:

I’m having problems getting the lower burr reinstalled

If, after removing the lower burr/adjustment assembly, you are unable to reinstall it – its as if the parts are not inserting far enough to seat properly, it probably means that there is an accumulation of coffee grounds preventing reinstallation of the lower burr/adjustment assembly.

Are you seeing your micro adjust move towards coarse when grinding?
If you notice your micro adjustment ring moving toward the coarse direction you can correct this by simply tightening the three screws on the bottom of the adjusting ring. To do this, remove the adjusting ring and burr and turn it over to see the screws, tighten the screws up a little (maybe a 1/16 of a turn) and re-install the adjustment ring/burr and you should be fine. Do not over tighten the screws or you risk stripping the threads.

If the issue persists it may be because there is insufficient friction between the micro adjust collar and adjustment assembly. This can be solved by inserting some felt shims. See this guide for instructions. The felt may be purchased at your local hardware store and cut to size or you can email (Support@Baratza.com) with your shipping address and they will send them to you.

If you feel that the portafilter basket is causing the problem, you can just borrow from your friend a basket to test it out on your machine.. Urs should be a 58MM if i am not wrong

This post has been edited by rytopa: Apr 9 2018, 06:39 PM

Glad you found the grinder good.... Try to fix your coffee bean weight and try to aim for an extraction time around 30sec via tightening or loosening the grind size.... This grinder makes adjusting the grind size and dialing in a joy to use

1 min is really too long, coarsen the grinds much more.... sorry the grinder dun have manual, but you can youtube 精彩手磨 ， some useful video there.. you can also consider getting a camera blower to clean it.

I am using the DE1+, currently its not available for order yet as they are clearing their back orders, i believe they will be opening up another round of pre order in about 2 months time.

Bear in mind unless you are willing to wait, you would be expecting to receive the machine in about 2-3 months from the date of pre ordering.

i waited close to a year for mine, but that because they were still in the planning phase when i ordered. The price inclusive of shipping is around USD 2.5K, however the price may be change on the next ordering phase.

I am trying to not use the word game changer for home coffee machine, but after using for 1 month ++ i am very impressed.

The less than 5 min warm up time makes everything much easier, no more worrying about shots being too hot or cold, eveything is feedback realtime. I can have a coffee made from warm up to clean up in less than 10 mins. My family and i have been drinking unprecedented amount of coffee after having the machine..lol

OE Lido 3 has no problem grinding for espresso in my experience.

A milk frothing wand is suitable for you in this case. But its very hard to recreate the same kind of frothing standards using a traditional espresso machine by a frothing wand

This post has been edited by rytopa: Jun 22 2018, 09:58 AM

Get a good grinder first, the Taobao handgrinder just recommended is excellent for espresso due to its ease of adjustment and markings.

Trust me. it will take alot of frustration out of espresso making. The Delonghi machine you are looking at is a decent enough machine for making espresso from dark roast as dark roasted coffee are more forgiving with extraction and temperature.

However it is using a pressurised portafilter basket and many have done mods to remove this function as many claims it affects the taste, however the draw back is it required more skill in preparing the grinds before extraction( which is why a good grinder is always recommended before the espresso machine)

So in short, yes the machine does make decent coffee, but dun expect much out of it. Stick to dark italian roast and you should be fine.

Around 1 min, depending on the roast degree for hand grinders.

Yes darker roast will be easier to extract and more forgiving on the equipment.

Can forget about using the delonghi for lighter single origin roast, you will highly likely be drinking face puckering sour coffee due to under extraction from the lack of temperature stability.

The pressurised filter PF slows down flow rate of the coffee due to its small exit holes which allows you to get away with bad grinds, while the coffee looks nice with crema, the crema is very different compared to normal portafilter NF, the PF crema is due to the mixing of air bubbles during the exit, making it nice and frothy which disapears shortly and lacking body and mouthfeel.

The NF slows down flowrate by the fine grinds, the pressure created within the coffee, leading to emulsion of coffee oils with water, kinda of like mayonnaise.

If you are the kind who likes to play with different coffee beans and roast level, skip the delonghi, get the 2nd hand rocket,

But if you are just wanting to make milk based coffee and not really fussy about it, the delonghi should serve just fine.

Lastly, its highly likely you will upgrade the Delonghi shortly after learning how to pull acceptable shots with it, cause you will realize the draw backs and short comings of it real soon...

I have not used the flair to comment about it. But seeing that the flair has many coffee geeks praising the shot quality, I would be think it would be a wiser choice.

Besides the flair seems to have good resale value should you choose to upgrade it further.