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iconia17
post Jan 11 2016, 11:06 AM

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To be fair frenz owner know its hard for club like frenz which is not associated with any state or at least regional community like felda to gain fans.

Collaborate dgn jdt boleh buatkan diorg focus utk supply quality players for jdt 2, 3, 4 and allow exceptional players to play the league. When player already transferred to jdt they can focus on acquiring new youngsters.

So frenz will stay as premier youth academy with clear objective to develop only mcm claire fontaine kat france. They never try to get into the league itself tp always provide quality players to the league.

This post has been edited by iconia17: Jan 11 2016, 11:07 AM
stillriver80
post Jan 11 2016, 11:54 AM

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claire fontaine.. kena gugel ni.. dan satu lagi ole football academy di NZ..
aressandro10
post Jan 11 2016, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(stillriver80 @ Jan 11 2016, 10:32 AM)
yup... dlm kafe sukan dulu owner frenz ada sebut ttg bajet dan kesukaran mereka utk bertanding dalam liga di malaysia, walaupun liga KPM.. maybe itu sebabnya mereka terpaksa buat kolaborasi.. maybe sampai diorg dpt establish dan dpt bersaing dlm liga..

for j-league & argentine league, 2 season league tu mcmana? kalau tak salah hanya liga peru yg ada sistem 1st stage and 2nd stage dlm satu season..
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Dalam j-league juara first round akan jumpa juara second round untuk rebut Emperor's Cup dan jadi total japan champion.

Liga Argentina, Apertura dan Clausura tu juara by its own right. Tapi liga argentina very complicated. Aku pon tak paham sgt especially system promotion and relegation die.

Liga brazil lagi gila. Clubs kene main dalam liga negeri dulu awal musim... baru main liga national.

I like it that every country in the world ade system unique untuk terapkan identiti sendiri dalam liga mereka.

Tak perlulah ikut template EPL je semata2..
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post Jan 11 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 11 2016, 01:27 PM)
Dalam j-league juara first round akan jumpa juara second round untuk rebut Emperor's Cup dan jadi total japan champion.

Liga Argentina, Apertura dan Clausura tu juara by its own right. Tapi liga argentina very complicated. Aku pon tak paham sgt especially system promotion and relegation die.

Liga brazil lagi gila. Clubs kene main dalam liga negeri dulu awal musim... baru main liga national.

I like it that every country in the world ade system unique untuk terapkan identiti sendiri dalam liga mereka.

Tak perlulah ikut template EPL je semata2..
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yup.. brazil mmg pelik tgk sistem liga diorg.. tu yg tak faham kdg2 knp satu2 team tu main state league sedangkan team tu team yg besar..

so, secara tak langsung disebabkan Piala Malaysia yg kita nak kekalkan prestijnya, muncul format yg unik untuk liga kita, 1st half of the season team akan berlumba2 utk dptkan tempat dlm piala malaysia.. menarik format tu..

so, piala malaysia season 2016 total team 16 pasukan kn? still ada grouping & home and away group match ke?

This post has been edited by stillriver80: Jan 11 2016, 02:30 PM
Artic Monkeys
post Jan 11 2016, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(sam.hajime @ Jan 11 2016, 10:52 AM)
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Kau bayangkan setiap kali gol, camera terus fokus muka Dato Vida

Terus dia muah kau

Kalau tiba Kelantan dapat 6 gol? rclxub.gif
aressandro10
post Jan 11 2016, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(stillriver80 @ Jan 11 2016, 02:27 PM)
yup.. brazil mmg pelik tgk sistem liga diorg.. tu yg tak faham kdg2 knp satu2 team tu main state league sedangkan team tu team yg besar..

so, secara tak langsung disebabkan Piala Malaysia yg kita nak kekalkan prestijnya, muncul format yg unik untuk liga kita, 1st half of the season team akan berlumba2 utk dptkan tempat dlm piala malaysia.. menarik format tu..

so, piala malaysia season 2016 total team 16 pasukan kn? still ada grouping & home and away group match ke?
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Yap... team bukan setakat berebut tempat..tapi berebut seeing place....

aku rasa grouping home and away to maintain...

so rasa macam UEFA Champions league la..
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post Jan 11 2016, 04:33 PM

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kalau level Frenz je Claire Fontaine JDT....aku agak kecewa la...

Frenz is a impressive project for a single crazy bussinessman...

Tapi untuk bottomles money pit monarch yg tak perlu risau untung rugi yg ade link dengan Borrusia Dortmund...aku expect more.....

something nearer to the real Claire Fontaine..

actually...JDT do not need Claire Fontaine when they can produce their own La Masia from scratch...

Lagi satu...base FU kan kat Janda Baik.... should JDT build their own youth setup nearer to their base support ?
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post Jan 11 2016, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 11 2016, 04:33 PM)
kalau level Frenz je Claire Fontaine JDT....aku agak kecewa la...

Frenz is a impressive project for a single crazy bussinessman...

Tapi untuk bottomles money pit monarch yg tak perlu risau untung rugi yg ade link dengan Borrusia Dortmund...aku expect more.....

something nearer to the real Claire Fontaine..

actually...JDT do not need Claire Fontaine when they can produce their own La Masia from scratch...

Lagi satu...base FU kan kat Janda Baik.... should JDT build their own youth setup nearer to their base support ?
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Ini yg aku pk gak... Tahap TMJ rasanya better buat Youth from scratch... Pelik je rasa youth Academy kat Pahang...

Tp... Rasanya TMJ amek shortcut sket sebab player Frenz much better basic drpd nak amek fresh green from selection dan perlukan masa lebih lama nak tuai hasil
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post Jan 11 2016, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(exkaizen @ Jan 11 2016, 04:37 PM)
Ini yg aku pk gak... Tahap TMJ rasanya better buat Youth from scratch... Pelik je rasa youth Academy kat Pahang...

Tp... Rasanya TMJ amek shortcut sket sebab player Frenz much better basic drpd nak amek fresh green from selection  dan perlukan masa lebih lama nak tuai hasil
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Yap.... tu la tujuan sebenar..

macam takeover satu company just untuk ambik dier nye intellectual property..

I guess everybody wins in this case..
stillriver80
post Jan 11 2016, 04:53 PM

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mungkin betul jdt mampu tubuhkan la masia diorg sendiri.. tapi proses tu memakan masa lama.. so, the fastest way untuk dapatkan produk ialah dgn kolaborasi bersama academy2 terbaik.. at the same time diorg pun dah start project youth academy diorg sendiri... harap2 team lain pun perhebatkan lagi youth development nih, especially selangor yg kaya dengan tradisi...
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post Jan 11 2016, 08:17 PM

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Each time keluar berita pasal Kelantan, aku jadi tambah frust dengan Dato Vida nih

Aku tahu Kelantan desperate tapi sampai sanggup tukar warna tradisi tu, nama pun sanggup ubah

Aku bukan apa, aku memang tak suka dengan Dato Vida nih sebab dia tend to conquer everything

Aku tak tahu la apa orang Kelantan rasa tapi serious, walaupun aku bukanlah peminat Kelantan tapi aku sangat sedih bila pasukan tu dibuat macam nih sekali just for the sake of surviving


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post Jan 11 2016, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(stillriver80 @ Jan 11 2016, 02:27 PM)
yup.. brazil mmg pelik tgk sistem liga diorg.. tu yg tak faham kdg2 knp satu2 team tu main state league sedangkan team tu team yg besar..

so, secara tak langsung disebabkan Piala Malaysia yg kita nak kekalkan prestijnya, muncul format yg unik untuk liga kita, 1st half of the season team akan berlumba2 utk dptkan tempat dlm piala malaysia.. menarik format tu..

so, piala malaysia season 2016 total team 16 pasukan kn? still ada grouping & home and away group match ke?
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Xslp aku so far last year dorg ckp tu format utk thn ni je. Thn dpn akan guna final standing(habis liga). Ni seigt aku dlu la aku tgk berita kot xigt dah
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post Jan 11 2016, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(stillriver80 @ Jan 11 2016, 04:53 PM)
mungkin betul jdt mampu tubuhkan la masia diorg sendiri.. tapi proses tu memakan masa lama.. so, the fastest way untuk dapatkan produk ialah dgn kolaborasi bersama academy2 terbaik.. at the same time diorg pun dah start project youth academy diorg sendiri... harap2 team lain pun perhebatkan lagi youth development nih, especially selangor yg kaya dengan tradisi...
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Kalau ikut page jdt...rasanya plan tu dh ada..bdk masuk skolah asrama..so akan directly duk inhouse . Nmpk cantik la. Aku risau kalau bdk spm dah di offer contract 5-6k. Fuhhh mmg gone la kalau bdk2 dh start main duit. (Infact kalau nk tau bdk2 piala presiden ada dh earn gaji 5-6k...nak upgrade gaji amik bookie pny duit..tu jd bebal main..smp umur 22-23 dh xdpt pro contract.

(rasanya seluruh negara ada) tp bkn directly liase with state FA. Path utk pemain remaja cth selangor (smk seksyen 11) ke senior team xnmpk. Yg nmpk hanyalah bdk2 ni dikumpulkan utk main liga kpm ke mssm ke...sbb tu bila smp stage piala presiden terpaksa reset balik buat open trial semua
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post Jan 11 2016, 10:32 PM

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Kahkahkah apa lancau la frenz utd pny fb ni
claim kogi frenz pny until 2019

Betul ke kogi ada kontrak dgm frenz? Aku rasa few years back brp kali aku sebut kogi ni main team akademi berbayar mcm mbsa dgn cimb.
Hahah . Sbb aku pon selalu bwk team bdk2 main tournament u15 sekitar klang valley few years back

Dia pakai baju frenz masa tournament frenz pon byk akademi komplen kot. Gila la kalau main satu tonomen trus dpt contract hahahaahah

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post Jan 12 2016, 08:15 AM

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Tukar format liga ikut epl tu x perlu tp tukar format liga yg dah terbukti fail for 30 years is a no brainer.

Dan terbukti bile liga tu dimanage oleh 3rd party instead of Fam baru nampak ade perubahan and professionalism sket.

Bak kata xfiles.. the truth is out there.

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post Jan 12 2016, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Jan 11 2016, 10:22 PM)
Kalau ikut page jdt...rasanya plan tu dh ada..bdk masuk skolah asrama..so akan directly duk inhouse . Nmpk cantik la. Aku risau kalau bdk spm dah di offer contract 5-6k. Fuhhh mmg gone la kalau bdk2 dh start main duit. (Infact kalau nk tau bdk2 piala presiden ada dh earn gaji 5-6k...nak upgrade gaji amik bookie pny duit..tu jd bebal main..smp umur 22-23 dh xdpt pro contract.

(rasanya seluruh negara ada) tp bkn directly liase with state FA.   Path utk pemain remaja cth selangor (smk seksyen 11) ke senior team xnmpk. Yg nmpk hanyalah bdk2 ni dikumpulkan utk main liga kpm ke mssm ke...sbb tu bila smp stage piala presiden terpaksa reset balik buat open trial semua
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rasanya kalau ikut modul akademi frenz united pun dah ok dah.. scholarship, sponsors, fasiliti serba lengkap dsbg... tak perlu bagi gaji mahal2 utk budak2, just elaun je rasanya akan ramai gak yg berminat utk join.. dan dari apa yg aku baca rasanya jdt tiru modul eropah.. mungkin ambil borussia dortmund sbg model youth facilities diorng..

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post Jan 12 2016, 11:15 AM

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Lets see fail ke tak...

Aku tak kisah pon. Janji ade identiti sendiri.

Format liga tu takde masalah. Yg masalah adelah professionalism dari participating team untuk produce quality players.

Yang ni kalau fail, format camne pon tetap fail.

format liga kita pon tak pernah tahan 5 tahun pon. Apetah lagi 30. The truth is out there.

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post Jan 12 2016, 11:21 AM

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Says rasa akan berjaya
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post Jan 12 2016, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(HangPC2 @ Jan 12 2016, 11:21 AM)
Says rasa akan berjaya
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Aper acceptance criteria berjaya ?

To be fair I like this new format too.

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post Jan 12 2016, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 12 2016, 11:26 AM)
Aper acceptance criteria berjaya ?

To be fair I like this new format too.
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positif impak kepada pasukan kebangsaan dari segi kualiti pemain dan pool of youth players..

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