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Adjusting Handbrake, Rear Disc brakes.. need Help
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TSK3nnYkl82
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Dec 15 2006, 10:45 AM, updated 19y ago
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Proton owners .. for wira/satria/putra... i need help
Anyone can tell me how can i adjust the handbrake ??... i pull to the max d .. but the car will still move if its on a hill .. down slope.. check brake pads still quite a lot.
I went to a mechanic .. he told me .. cannot adjust one .. But another fren told me, can adjust the piston out a bit ..
Wat should i do ??..
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zombie24
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Dec 15 2006, 11:00 AM
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thats weird...ru sure ur brakes r ok? QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 15 2006, 10:45 AM) Proton owners .. for wira/satria/putra... i need help Anyone can tell me how can i adjust the handbrake ??... i pull to the max d .. but the car will still move if its on a hill .. down slope.. check brake pads still quite a lot. I went to a mechanic .. he told me .. cannot adjust one .. But another fren told me, can adjust the piston out a bit .. Wat should i do ??..
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sleepwalker
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Dec 15 2006, 11:08 AM
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Need sleep....
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 15 2006, 10:45 AM) Proton owners .. for wira/satria/putra... i need help Anyone can tell me how can i adjust the handbrake ??... i pull to the max d .. but the car will still move if its on a hill .. down slope.. check brake pads still quite a lot. I went to a mechanic .. he told me .. cannot adjust one .. But another fren told me, can adjust the piston out a bit .. Wat should i do ??.. There are 2 locations to adjust the handbrake. The easy way is to tighten the slack at the handbrake itself. However, if this has been maxed out, the other way would be to do it at the brake caliper/drum at the rear. If mechanic say dunno, means he's lazy to do it or dunno how. Either way, find another mechanic.
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TSK3nnYkl82
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Dec 15 2006, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(zombie24 @ Dec 15 2006, 11:00 AM) thats weird...ru sure ur brakes r ok? yup .. pretty sure its still at good condition .. at least 60 ~ 70% left ... even last time when i juz put in this new pads.. i have to pull the handbrake level quite high .. then only can achieve a total strong brake.
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TSK3nnYkl82
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Dec 15 2006, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 15 2006, 11:08 AM) There are 2 locations to adjust the handbrake. The easy way is to tighten the slack at the handbrake itself. However, if this has been maxed out, the other way would be to do it at the brake caliper/drum at the rear. If mechanic say dunno, means he's lazy to do it or dunno how. Either way, find another mechanic. means its possible to adjust the brakes ... i have to find another mech that can do it la.. on the rear brake itself .. not the slack at the handbrakes .. thanks!
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tester1979
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Dec 15 2006, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 15 2006, 11:08 AM) There are 2 locations to adjust the handbrake. The easy way is to tighten the slack at the handbrake itself. However, if this has been maxed out, the other way would be to do it at the brake caliper/drum at the rear. If mechanic say dunno, means he's lazy to do it or dunno how. Either way, find another mechanic. hmm.....i was told that there is no way to adjust handbrake position for cars with ABS. is this true?
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julnoel
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Dec 15 2006, 03:04 PM
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put handbrake liao then use steering wheel and move your tyres so they are horizontal [ ] == == [ ] [ ] [ ]
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TSK3nnYkl82
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Dec 15 2006, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(julnoel @ Dec 15 2006, 03:04 PM) put handbrake liao then use steering wheel and move your tyres so they are horizontal [ ] == == [ ] [ ] [ ] lolz.. tat is so lame... Sabahan use to do this .. this works... park ur car d .. engage gear .. any gear will do .. then the car wont slip! .. but during driving .. no use.... have to use clutch and fuel to be able to stand still it..
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julnoel
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Dec 15 2006, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 15 2006, 03:09 PM) lolz.. tat is so lame... Sabahan use to do this .. this works... park ur car d .. engage gear .. any gear will do .. then the car wont slip! .. but during driving .. no use.... have to use clutch and fuel to be able to stand still it.. lame? i learnt that from the undang book k dont simply say lame lame here
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soggie
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Dec 15 2006, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 15 2006, 03:09 PM) lolz.. tat is so lame... Sabahan use to do this .. this works... park ur car d .. engage gear .. any gear will do .. then the car wont slip! .. but during driving .. no use.... have to use clutch and fuel to be able to stand still it.. Err.. during driving can't you just step on the brakes instead of balancing on the clutch?
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-=Axis=-
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Dec 15 2006, 03:20 PM
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it's not lame or anything, park like that really hurt your alignment especially if you really turn it to the max. best way is to get it adjust by mechanic. at the moment just park your car and engage into gear. aviod steep slope. or if you don't mind, keep 2 bricks in the boot.
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sleepwalker
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Dec 15 2006, 04:50 PM
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Need sleep....
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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Dec 15 2006, 02:41 PM) hmm.....i was told that there is no way to adjust handbrake position for cars with ABS. is this true? Not true. ABS has nothing to do with handbrake as they both operate on separate systems. One is hydraulic and the other is cable.
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julnoel
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Dec 15 2006, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(-=Axis=- @ Dec 15 2006, 03:20 PM) it's not lame or anything, park like that really hurt your alignment especially if you really turn it to the max. best way is to get it adjust by mechanic. at the moment just park your car and engage into gear. aviod steep slope. or if you don't mind, keep 2 bricks in the boot. ok lah. imagine this. its a nice sunday morning, and you're going up some hill. suddenly, your girlfriend says, lets stop here and have a picnic. okay dokay. you park your car, and you suddenly realize the handbrakes are not working properly. so you just rub your dashboard softly, and *chingching* a mechanic appears. and he adjusts it for you. woohoo. now if only that worked. sadly, in such a situation, you only have that tyres thing as your final solution, so you use it, right? the bricks thing is so.. what if in the process of taking out your bricks the car rolls back..wee..  then you become the bricks
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tester1979
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Dec 15 2006, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 15 2006, 04:50 PM) Not true. ABS has nothing to do with handbrake as they both operate on separate systems. One is hydraulic and the other is cable. thanks.....looks like i'll be sending my car for adjustment soon. when I pull my handbrake now, hear about 8-9 clicks for full brake power. used to be about 6 clicks only. but i heard that the best is like 3 clicks. is this the way to measure? but firstly, i'll be asking the guy to check if my brake pads are ok or not. I remembered changing them (rear) about 6 months ago.
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-=Axis=-
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Dec 15 2006, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(julnoel @ Dec 15 2006, 07:28 PM) ok lah. imagine this. its a nice sunday morning, and you're going up some hill. suddenly, your girlfriend says, lets stop here and have a picnic. okay dokay. you park your car, and you suddenly realize the handbrakes are not working properly. so you just rub your dashboard softly, and *chingching* a mechanic appears. and he adjusts it for you. woohoo. now if only that worked. sadly, in such a situation, you only have that tyres thing as your final solution, so you use it, right? the bricks thing is so.. what if in the process of taking out your bricks the car rolls back..wee..  then you become the bricks  let's be practical man. you don't 'suddenly' decide for a sunday morning picnic. if you gonna say if, my IF is: if it was me, i'll have it done as soon as possible. it's not like a hazard light failure where you can ignore simply because you're not using it often. more to the point, it won't take long and it's not going to cost much. yes your method does work but is that the only thing you're going to do? when your car alignment ran, you're going to drive with your steering few cm off center. one side of your tyres gonna worn out faster than the other. it also causes uneven wear to the brake pads, strecthes the rocker arms fitting which holds your suspension and wheels to the car. so in the end you still gonna bring it to the mechanic only this time it costs you even more. what was a problem which originally can be fixed with a spanar turned castatrophic all because of your stupidity. This post has been edited by -=Axis=-: Dec 15 2006, 11:38 PM
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sleepwalker
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Dec 16 2006, 12:07 AM
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Need sleep....
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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Dec 15 2006, 11:15 PM) thanks.....looks like i'll be sending my car for adjustment soon. when I pull my handbrake now, hear about 8-9 clicks for full brake power. used to be about 6 clicks only. but i heard that the best is like 3 clicks. is this the way to measure? but firstly, i'll be asking the guy to check if my brake pads are ok or not. I remembered changing them (rear) about 6 months ago. Yes, that's the way to measure but definitely not 3 clicks. Depending on the car you are driving but usually is between 6-8 clicks or as stated in the manual.
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julnoel
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Dec 16 2006, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(-=Axis=- @ Dec 15 2006, 11:32 PM) let's be practical man. you don't 'suddenly' decide for a sunday morning picnic. if you gonna say if, my IF is: if it was me, i'll have it done as soon as possible. it's not like a hazard light failure where you can ignore simply because you're not using it often. more to the point, it won't take long and it's not going to cost much. yes your method does work but is that the only thing you're going to do? when your car alignment ran, you're going to drive with your steering few cm off center. one side of your tyres gonna worn out faster than the other. it also causes uneven wear to the brake pads, strecthes the rocker arms fitting which holds your suspension and wheels to the car. so in the end you still gonna bring it to the mechanic only this time it costs you even more. what was a problem which originally can be fixed with a spanar turned castatrophic all because of your stupidity. lol okay okay chill..  what an angry man you are... This post has been edited by julnoel: Dec 16 2006, 12:11 AM
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TSK3nnYkl82
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Dec 16 2006, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(soggie @ Dec 15 2006, 03:13 PM) Err.. during driving can't you just step on the brakes instead of balancing on the clutch? of coz i can .. balancing the clutch will hurt my clutch .. no way . but sometimes.. those stupid fella follow so damn near.. i have no choice.. if i brake.. without handbrake... i scare might fall back slighly when i try to move the car.. if they are a distance a way is okie.. but some stupid fella juz wanna come so near even its a slope.
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TSK3nnYkl82
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Dec 18 2006, 10:42 AM
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Got my handbrake adjusted yesterday .. :-) .. its working nicely .. thanks everyone!
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tester1979
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Dec 18 2006, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 18 2006, 10:42 AM) Got my handbrake adjusted yesterday .. :-) .. its working nicely .. thanks everyone! great......nice to hear....... they adjusted the one near the wheel?
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TSK3nnYkl82
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Dec 18 2006, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Dec 18 2006, 11:15 AM) great......nice to hear....... they adjusted the one near the wheel? yes... the one near the handbrake i know how to adjust .. :-)
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blueworm
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Dec 18 2006, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 18 2006, 02:54 PM) yes... the one near the handbrake i know how to adjust .. :-) I m facing the same problem like u also. but my mech say my caliper not working d, need 2 replace. try 2 adjust the 1 near the handbrake b4, but also still not working.
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maddriver
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Dec 18 2006, 05:32 PM
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if you've adjusted the handbrake cable to the max and the car is still moving, then it's time to change your handbrake cables.
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sleepwalker
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Dec 18 2006, 06:37 PM
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Need sleep....
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QUOTE(blueworm @ Dec 18 2006, 05:22 PM) I m facing the same problem like u also. but my mech say my caliper not working d, need 2 replace. try 2 adjust the 1 near the handbrake b4, but also still not working. Didn't you read my reply in the previous page? 2 places to adjust. One at handbrake and one at the calipers itself. If mech say dunno how to do, go find another mech.
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sleepwalker
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Dec 18 2006, 06:49 PM
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Need sleep....
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QUOTE(maddriver @ Dec 18 2006, 05:32 PM) if you've adjusted the handbrake cable to the max and the car is still moving, then it's time to change your handbrake cables. Not necessary unless the caliper side can no longer tighten. The handbrake cable seldom stretch that much to the point where it cannot be tighten anymore. Usually the mechs tighten the handbrake, then caliper becomes loose, tighten handbrake somemore, caliper becomes loose again, to the point where handbrake side can no longer tighten anymore. Always check the both ends first.
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maddriver
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Dec 18 2006, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Dec 18 2006, 09:49 PM) Not necessary unless the caliper side can no longer tighten. The handbrake cable seldom stretch that much to the point where it cannot be tighten anymore. Usually the mechs tighten the handbrake, then caliper becomes loose, tighten handbrake somemore, caliper becomes loose again, to the point where handbrake side can no longer tighten anymore. Always check the both ends first. been there, done that. the cable was not stretched. just jammed
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tester1979
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Dec 18 2006, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Dec 18 2006, 02:54 PM) yes... the one near the handbrake i know how to adjust .. :-) can teach me how to adjust the one on the handbrake? thanks.
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daijoubu
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Dec 19 2006, 11:15 PM
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there is a DIY guide for a WiraSE on ZTH on how to tighten the ebrakes on the drum side. requires removing the drum cover and turning a gear or something like that. looks simple. try searching at zth DIY section http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/forumdisplay.php?f=46i'd help but my connection here is ultra laggy >.<
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Shock
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Dec 21 2006, 01:44 PM
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The best for me is still engage gear 1 when everything is settel at the slope(pull hand brake,engine off).
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blueworm
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Dec 24 2006, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(Shock @ Dec 21 2006, 01:44 PM) The best for me is still engage gear 1 when everything is settel at the slope(pull hand brake,engine off). Ya, i think tis the best way. to make sure ur car won't BANG 2 the others car.
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sakaic
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Dec 25 2006, 09:07 PM
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for some models, there is a drum mechanism inside the rear disc.
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