Got a question, or rather more in an odd situation actually. Currently own a 980Ti (Gigabyte G1), using a 1440p 60Hz (Dell U2515H). Going to sell off this monitor eventually because I will be receiving a 4K monitor (Samsung U28E590DS, AMD FreeSync Supported) soon, a "relatively" free item. Wanna try 4K mah.

Now the dilemma comes, should I............

A) Sell off or trade off my 980Ti and get a equivalent class AMD GC for the sake of FreeSync, if it does really matter and makes a huge difference.

B) Sell off the 4K monitor, use the money, top-up with some cash and go for something that has GSync, maybe not 4K, but 2K only, considering a 4K GSync monitor costs a bomb and I don't think I wanna spend that kind of top-up money.

C) Screw all these "Sync-Sync" crap, they don't matter! Just stick with my current monitor & GC, sell off the 4K monitor and keep the money. Or sell off my current monitor and use this 4k monitor as substitute, don't care about the "Sync" incompatibility with my GC.

What would you fellow sifu-sifu choose if you were in my position? Or is there a better idea besides the above 3?

Thanks man!!!

Your GTX 980 Ti can handle 4K resolution just nice.

The closest AMD card would be the R9 Fury X and that also it doesn't perform as fast as GTX 980 Ti.

Definitely not going for Path A.

Either B or C. U2515H is nice IPS monitor, different experience from a gaming monitor that comes with sync + TN + other gaming features.

If B, just worry the money that I get back from selling off both the Dell and Samsung monitors also still won't be enough to get me a 4K monitor that has GSync. Sure kena topup like 1k or so somemore I think. A 1440p type probably can, but it's still a 1440p, same as my current one, so not much of a reason to change or upgrade anyway.

If go for C, just feel it's kinda like not right using a GSync GC on a FreeSync monitor....ha ha. Still I don't know how much of a difference it would make if the "Sync-Sync" thing is enabled or supported. Never seen or experienced one myself before.

Anyway, thanks man for the input and suggestion. Appreciate it!

Actually very simple, just enjoy that 4K monitor first la. Not happy then only decide how to go about.

Nowadays the best gaming monitors are not 4K. I don't remember any 4K G-sync monitor but there are many good 1440p G/F sync monitors.

simple dude..

if u never tried gsync etc.. u would have no issue gaming at 60fps and lead a merry life.

if you have you will never go back

also i think you never noticed tearing/judder/stutter etc on ure monitor till now so that shows how perceptive you are
and hence running that 4k with a 980ti without freesync.. you wont notice a thing other than that insufficient vram in a lot of games and lack of power on that ti for 4k.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Jan 6 2016, 09:39 AM

Ya....4K is not really the ideal resolution for gaming today, since there is no single GC able to run it consistently at 60fps.....I think. I also don't think my single 980ti can run it smoothly at 60fps with everything maxed out (except AA) like on my current 1440p monitor. Anyway, like you suggest, will try how is the experience of 4k first and I am willing to scale down the graphics setting to like MEDIUM or so, so can maintain the FPS. If it sucks or looks like crap, I will sell it off and use back my 1440p worst case scenario.

There is a 4K GSync monitor by Acer, but not sure here got anybody sell it or not. Sure gonna cost a bomb!!!

I never tried GSync or FreeSync before, never even seen one in action as well. Really have no idea how better can it be compare to VSync or NoSync. And you are right about my current situation, using 980ti on 1440p 60Hz monitor got no problem at all. No lag, no judder, no tearing or stutter, set everything maxed out still be able to achieve 60fps consistently. But when it comes to 4K, dunno already. When I receive the monitor I will test it out, and for sure I kena set some graphic settings to MEDIUM or LOW in order to maintain that 60fps. And if FreeSync can really help on that, I will probably sell off the 980Ti and get a similar class AMD GC instead, maybe can even get back some cash too considering AMD GC is cheaper........heh heh.

From my experience, I can't get 980 Ti to push beyond 60fps average when all details are on.

You'll have to reduce AA and some stuff to get there.

Yeah...I suspect same also. I'll just completely off AA, since at 4K resolution I think AA not useful anymore. The rest of other settings not sure oledi, kena try and tinker around only can know. Btw, if the monitor got GSync supported, does it help in this situation? Or let's say if I switch to AMD GC and use this FreeSync monitor, can it solve this 4k at 60fps issue? Truthfully I don't really quite get it yet what or how this GSync and FreeSync can benefit when it comes to situation like this.

Go nvidia thread and say that, you'll get hentam.

To me, it's entirely up to preference. I also find that at 4K I wouldn't be noticing jaggies.

I was using an AMD R9 Nano on 4K UHD resolution.

Nope, I don't see 60fps. There is tearing though which I believe free-sync will help.

i pick either A or

D) use your current setup + 4k monitor. set resolution to 4k and reduce aa until the minimum fps reach 60fps. limit your fps = 60 and apply vsync.

if u can stand tearing, u can disable vsync.

From my experience, you can disable AA on 4K resolutions and everything still remains sharp and beautiful to your eyes. In fact when I tried enabling 2X and 4X AA on Battlefield 4 previously, I can't spot much differences. Good luck.

Heh heh....dowanlah........dowan "gaduh" with anybody there, later they all shoot me say I am NOOB. Here LowYatForum is much better, everyone is helpful and friendly, no hentam-hentam activity. My objective is only wanna get the best out of the money that I have spent and also stuff that I currently own. If this Samsung monitor had GSync, sigh......this thread would not have existed. Too bad I own a Nvidia GC with a FreeSync monitor.........match "unmade" in heaven!

Thanks man. Option A is actually I been thinking to proceed with, especially lately I noticed got somebody offering to to trade/swap an equivalent class AMD GC, but not sure whether or not it's still available today. If swap/trade, maybe can even get back some cash too.

Option D kena wait until I receive the monitor first then only can know how well it performs. And no, I can't stand tearing....it hurts my eyes and mind too! Every time I see tearing, I could faint! So VSync definitely kena on, heh heh.

Thanks man for the input. Will try it out when I receive the monitor later. Will post and update it here the result, so maybe there are others who are in similar situation can get to know about it.

i think you should go with freesync.ease your mind. vsync introduced a lot of prob especially input lag.

Hehe, I was referring to Nvidia thread on lowyat forum.

Anyway enjoy the new stuff first la. Upgrade will come eventually.

Actually it depends on your preference. Some people don't mind gaming at low/medium graphics quality and some people always wants ultra. The point I want to make is, it really doesn't justify to turn on AA at 4K resolution weighing the amount of improvement vs performance (FPS) that you get The other thing you want to consider is whether you prefer to game at 4K @ 60Hz which gives you beautiful detail and depth compared to 1440p @ 144Hz which gives you ultra smooth gaming.

Especially if you're an FPS gamer and tried 144Hz, you probably will feel lousy gaming at 60Hz. It feels like a huge jump backwards.

Ok...thanks man, once again.

Ooohhh.....but don't worry, I never posted or asked anything there before. Not even once, I didn't even know it exists until you told me about it, heh heh.

I am more towards into seeing/appreciating beautiful graphics in game than ultra smooth FPS. I hardly play first-person-shooter game anyway, it gives me seasick & makes me feel like wanna vomit after playing for like 20 minutes or so. And I think that 144Hz thing mostly only benefits those who play competitively. They gain some sort of advantage from that 144Hz thing, when competing with other players. I love to play games like GTA V, Batman (too bad the latest one is a crap), Tomb Rider, etc. third-person kinda game. In fact at 1440p 60Hz or at 60fps I'm actually very happy already, which is my current setup. Anything and everything I throw at it also it can handle. So I am wondering perhaps a 980ti is meant for something larger, 4k for example, and hopefully it doesn't disappoint when I get the monitor soon.

A single 980 Ti does not have enough juice to power AA game titles in ultra mode for 4K resolution.

C

simple, not even GTX Titan X is enough for 4K, better sell & save money, use your current monitor & gc and wait until next generation Nvidia/AMD GPUs and more affordable 4K monitors with even more features come out, only then decide
also, i can't see any jaggies at 1440p/4K at all but then again i play at 24", can't say anything about 27" and above
people saying 144Hz/1ms/GSync/Freesync is not needed is like saying you don't need anything above 30/60fps, but once you've tried it, you'll never go back

This post has been edited by kingform: Jan 9 2016, 09:18 PM

I used to be happy with 1440p 60hz, after owning a 144hz panel, I am wishing my phone's and ipad screen refresh at 120+hz too... urg the blurrrrrrr

Finally I have tried 4K using a single 980ti, and u r right about it, that it can't handle 4K very well, at least on Black Ops III. I have only tried 2 games so far, the other one is GTA V and surprisingly at 4K it runs really really well. at HIGH settings. Too bad when it comes to Black Ops III, FPS drops like crazy. Even when set everything to MEDIUM, still can't consistently achieve 60fps. So sad! Both games were tested with AA completely off. Will try more games when got the time.

I am now using 4K, and decided to sell off the 1440p monitor. GTA V runs really well, but not Black Ops III. I think the performance is very dependable on game titles. But luckily my motherboard is SLI supported. So in case really a single 980ti isn't good enough, I can always hunt for another one in future and SLI them. Hopefully 2 x 980Ti will be good enough for 4K.

My 4K monitor can't go beyond 60Hz. But I have tried 1080p 144Hz before, the experience was very very smooth and fluid, but didn't exactly find it useful to me. I think it is more useful for people who play competitively online shooting each other in FPS kind of game.

Yes boss because I have tried 4K with 980 SLI earlier before moving to 980 Ti SLI (also tested single 980 Ti)

Might be this can explain difference.......

Haha more like boosting the cojones at 1440p in all games

100 fps at 1440p anyone

TI is more 2 jalan all games at 30fps in 4k

By the way i still doing fine with 770 at 1440p

Waahhh.....980Ti SLI......my dream leh! Wish I could afford a 2nd 980Ti now and SLI them immediately. By the way, may I ask, since u r using a GSync monitor with your 980Ti SLI, do you still enable or on the in-game VSync and/or the adaptive VSync in the Nvidia Control Panel? Is the conventional VSync or/and Adaptive VSync still needed when GSync is present? I'm starting to pening already lah with all these sync-sync thing. So many types of sync.........sigh.............

Watched already.........can't say I can digest 100% what Linus is trying to explain here, but it is a very informative video nonetheless. Thanks man.

Ha ha......ya.....quite true. I'm currently experiencing it now. A single 980Ti can't achieve 60fps consistently, most of the times hoover in between 40fps and 50fps only. Tried a few other games and they are the same. So far only GTA V alone can consistently achieve 60fps at HIGH settings. It looks like a 2nd 980Ti is inevitable now.......damn!

There's only 3 types for nVidia which is the most popular, it's not confusing.

VSYNC OFF
VSYNC ON
GYNC

What you need to do is turn on "GSYNC" in the control panel and leave "VSYNC ON" inside the game. I tried a few games and setting "VSYNC OFF", I get image tearing and I'm not sure why, maybe it's the Acer 4K LCD. Nevertheless, it's up to your own gaming style as some people don't mind tearing at all.

This post has been edited by clawhammer: Jan 15 2016, 02:57 PM

I managed to grab a Acer 4K GSync monitor (XB281HK) lately, maybe same model like yours also. Inside the Nvidia Control Panel, under monitor type I get to choose between GSYNC and FIXED REFRESH RATE. I pick GSync. And under VSYNC there, I turn it OFF and inside game (GTA V) I on the VSync. No more tearing and pretty smooth too. Before that I ON in the Nvidia Panel and OFF it inside the game, got tearing like you said and not smooth. Strange. All is good on GTA V, but when I run Black Ops III, my goodness.........framerate drops like mad, even at MEDIUM graphic settings. Maybe this game is demanding and I think a 2nd 980ti is inevitable now.

heh heh...watch for reference only, listen half and don't listen the other half. I am on the Green side now already, especially with the recent acquisition of a GSync monitor.

Glad you enjoy the new LCD and game Maybe you can get another 980 Ti or wait for the next generation of GPU to launch.

Still using my old old Samsung XL2370 with 970GTX.. Got consider to switch to Gsync monitor before but the price is too expansive. And my seat distance between the monitor is not even 2 feet. So i guess doing 1080p gameplay is still satisfactory tho.

Yeaaa....when PASCAL comes, 980Ti value drops (hopefully) and that will be the right time to grab a 2nd unit.

A single GTX970 is more than good enough for 1080p I think. You don't need GSync also nevermind, because at this resolution, I believe GTX970 can fully push to 60fps or above without drop, maybe AA has to be either low or off entirely. I used to own this combo last time (1080p monitor with a single 970), everything I threw at it also able to run smoothly 60fps, only on certain particular games I couldn't max out the graphic settings.