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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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ohcipala
post Jan 8 2016, 11:31 AM

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Wait for LIFE framework. But don't know whether it will ever be implemented
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post Jan 18 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jan 18 2016, 06:28 PM)
1) AXA Affin SCO is not guaranteed renewable. General insurance companies don't guarantee the renewability of your medical cards.

if your concern is on portfolio withdrawal clause, all companies have it one way or another. it's just a risk management way.

usually you can opt for conversion, but subject to the t&c.

2) no it won't

3) those that guarantee renewable are those of life insurance companies. but at the end of the day, this guaranteed renewable is pointless when they have portfolio withdrawal clause. it contradicts.
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I think AXA Affin SCO is guaranteed renewable, subject to portfolio withdrawal clause.


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post Mar 17 2016, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(avms01 @ Mar 17 2016, 11:04 AM)
Thank you for sharing and agree on the Premium waiver rider for Investment Link.
However, in Investment Link, the investment returns are NOT guaranteed.
I have heard cases from friends that after 5 years or so, they are required to TOP UP in order to support thier policy.
Note ... thier are just Medical card investment link without any others riders.

This is my concern here. So thinking of traditional plan and the difference I invest in investment vehicle that can generate at least 5 % to 6 % (ASNB).
Any comments?
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You can try to have a look at AXA smart optimum care. If you choose the deductible option, you get some discount. You have the option of changing it back to a non deductible one before age 59 for free too. That way, if you combine your company medical insurance with this, you don't have to pay so much. And if you buy this medical card directly without an agent, you get a bit of discount too.

Edit: If you're worried about the annual limit and others, get the most expensive plan then. I think its still worth it to go for this plan + do whatever investment plan you have (if you're invest savvy la)

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post Mar 17 2016, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 17 2016, 11:31 AM)
Just be caution that when you're opting for any feature in your insurance policy, once you've succumb to any disease and you wish to upgrade your medical card later on. You will not be able to do so as you will have to declare your health when you wish to upgrade your insurance policy.

So always opt to get the best medical card benefit rather than a sub-par. Of course, this will depend on your current budget as well. If budget permits, get a good one.

Otherwise, here's your scenario,
1. You're covered under company insurance and get a deductible personal medical card with such and such benefit.
a. You're diagnosed with critical illness of any sort
- Upon resignation from company due to company retrench, close down or firing you due to incapable to perform normal task anymore
= no more company medical card and depend on deductible personal medical card.
= after that you try to upgrade your medical card
= can't do so because you've existing illness, upgrade rejected = stick to old medical card which is probably having low annual limit and worse still with deductible, you'll have to fork out extra money for every time you're admitting to the hospital.

You get what you pay for.
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OK. Here's an excerpt from the policy wording.

Policy wording can be downloaded here


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post Mar 17 2016, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 17 2016, 11:43 AM)
Based on the wording, it's good that the benefit to change it to non-deductible is allowable. However, the risk of staying with a lower annual limit is there because normally if you try to leverage on a company medical card, you would be opting for the cheapest plan to leverage on the cheaper premium.
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If company's medical card covers rm20k, one can opt for rm20k deductible and get 50% discount. Whether one opt for cheapest plan or not, it depends on his/her budget/preference. That 50% discount might help one to get the most expensive plan too, no? icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 17 2016, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 17 2016, 12:03 PM)
biggrin.gif sorry can't give you an answer on how the premium is calculated or charged by that insurance company and whether the client can or cannot afford.
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You can get a lot of info here . Price list included. Maybe next time you can recommend this product in the future too? biggrin.gif

I don't know whether it's affordable for him or not too but I was just giving him a suggestion on standalone medical card.
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post Apr 26 2016, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(kokkit3 @ Apr 26 2016, 06:19 PM)
Dear,

My condolences.

Yes you are covered. Doesnt mean that your father is diagnose with cancer, you will have exclusion from cancer coverage. Best way is to submit to an insurance company and wait for their underwriting reply.
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QUOTE(kokkit3 @ Apr 26 2016, 06:22 PM)
Dear,

Many insurance company offers stand alone medical card. In fact medical card coverage is very common in insurance coverage. What coverage are you looking at?
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QUOTE(kokkit3 @ Apr 26 2016, 06:28 PM)
Dear,

Yes what every you have signed, you will get a copy of it in the policy given to you.
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QUOTE(kokkit3 @ Apr 26 2016, 06:32 PM)
Dear,

Great Eastern medical plan offering RM990k, RM1.32 mill, RM1.76mill annual limit, no lifetime limit.

What other coverage are you exploring?
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QUOTE(kokkit3 @ Apr 26 2016, 06:36 PM)
Dear,

Its hard to give you a quote because insurance is usually customized and depends very much on your age. More information needed in order to recommend.

Age, occupation, coverage, riders, needed in order to recommend.
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QUOTE(kokkit3 @ Apr 26 2016, 06:41 PM)
Dear,

1. Usually company's coverage is very low in terms of limit. What if that person decides to move on to another company? Coverage from company to company differs. Only look for a personal medical plan once you retire? A bit too late on that...

2. The usual policy that has 36 CI coverage do come with a Death coverage. The insurance co will pay out what ever is insured in the Death coverage part.

3. Within 7 years, it will go under the distribution act. 50% will go to the parents, 25% will go to the spouse and 25% will go to the children. Else our beloved gomen takes it!
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You really need to learn to use the Quote button

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