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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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conqu3ror
post Dec 29 2015, 05:36 PM

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This threat is running fast. Already V3.

Thanks Roy
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post Jan 3 2016, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Jan 3 2016, 09:29 AM)
Is insurance premium going to be cheaper, considering the latest article attached?

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016...oved-ones-will/
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Yes, Life Insurance premium had went down. Such as Allianz PremiumLink (ILP) Life/TPD Sum Assured RM500,000 and premium only from RM100/monthly.

But as of Medical Insurance, the premium are much related to current medical cost. Only if the medical treatment cost reduce, then LIAM will have to lower the medical insurance premium to inline with the medical cost.

Some good quote from the articles:-

"Get sufficient medical coverage while you’re young and healthy instead of trying to buy insurance after you’ve been diagnosed with an illness, Liam’s Toi advises."

"Always add a zero to your annual income to gauge the protection amount needed, Kho offers, because this sum will give your family at least 10 years to adjust to the change in their financial situation."

“Unlike in other countries where consu­mers ask: ‘How much will the family get when I die?’, Malaysians want to know how much they will get back from the policy before they die.”

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post Jan 5 2016, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Jan 5 2016, 01:39 PM)
Looking for standalone medical card for a female aged 54, currently have a few quotes from GE, AXA, AIA. Also have from @Roysteven.. Anyone has any suggestions/quotations?

Looking at room and board of ard 200-250RM.
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Bro, sorry if offending for reality. We can take our time to compare what ever we like. But as of age 54, the chance of insurance company approve without loading and exclusion is quite low.

100% insurance company will require any applicant who above 50's to have medical check up and the medical report rarely will be perfect as those 20-30's health status. (If you know any insurance not require medical check up for 50s, I will be interested to know)

As many said, Insurance company are not a charity, even a minor health issue such as high cholesterol for a 50's, they will rather reject the applicant then taking the risk to accept. This might more stringent in standalone than ILP due to ILP is a life insurance.

When we have money, we can shop and buy anything we want. But this doesn't happen in health insurance, as they only accept those who still strong and healthy.

It is important to know that, get a medical plan when we are still young and healthy. Not when we are getting old and sick.

This post has been edited by conqu3ror: Jan 5 2016, 05:44 PM
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post Jan 6 2016, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Tutter @ Jan 6 2016, 08:29 PM)
I think you'll be quite surprised to find how many people that are exactly in that situation. Naturally, the main reason they won't be getting insurance is because it is an absolute torture to explain to agents how their state has come to be. Agents are so quick to assume everyone has a family. I also see those who grew up without one, will not feel the desire to start their own because they are very contented and fulfilled to live their lives either by themselves or among close friends. Think about it, if you're constantly by yourself as a kid, why would you suddenly feel the need to be surrounded by "loved ones" in old age? Though they may be alone, they are not lonely at all.

I am only putting out my 5 cents because I saw you saying that a couple of times now. I've spoken to those who are totally happy without any kind of a family at all and they can almost all agree that meeting insurance agents is an agony, simply because they can't quite find a way to explain their life choices.
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We just couldn't disagree that someone prefer to stay alone without family. Some will just said die then die lah, what to worry so much, better just spend the money myself then give to insurance company.

Pathetically, he may be short sighted and miserable and maybe selfish, as he never thought about future is still bright.
"No man can be an island"

Someone can ignore insurance and have 101 reason to reject insurance when he still single and young, but just hope it won't be too late for him to get insurance, especially heart diseases, cancer, kidney failure are so common these day.

Insurance just not a charity, they will just reject a illness person.
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post Jan 7 2016, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(sugarcookies @ Jan 7 2016, 12:13 PM)
Hi I am reviewing my medical plan and below are what I got:

Allianz - 79K Life, Medical 850K Annual Limit, No Life Limit. No CI waiver. Cost RM266.66 per month.
GEL - 12K Life, Basic Medical 90K Annual Limit, 900K Life Limit. Deductible Medical 90K, 900K Annual Limit, No Life Limit. With CI waiver. Cost RM210 per month.
Manulife - 10K Life, Basic Medical 150K Annual Limit, No Life Limit. Deductible Medical 150K, No Annual Limit (mean as long as within Life Limit), 850K Life Limit. No CI waiver. Cost RM216.66 per month.

Allianz looks good to me as it's a non-deductible plan with high annual limit and no life limit. And the premium doesn't really jerk up a lot with the benefits. But I always remember what u pay is what u get, I am afraid that I may overlook something or some drawback which I have yet to discover. Or could it be Allianz started with a much lower premium but increase drastically years later?

Can sifu sekalian help to provide some insights please?
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In view with the plan, I believe you are in 40's

As many said, the premium amount are not guarantee to be fixed for life. For in depth comparison, you can check with the Cost of Insurance, the Term & Condition and Company profile and history.

Certainly we don't want a company which have claim issue, unable to sustain or no renewable guarantee, or worst if they have the right to withdraw the rider/medical plan.
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post Jan 8 2016, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Jan 8 2016, 04:27 PM)
normally, 24 Hours Road Assistance Service, if let's say battery flat or out of petrol middle of somewhere, any charges (except battery replacement)?
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The default 24 Hours Road Assistance Service is just towing our car to our prefer service centre. (With certain distance limit). Generally no roadside repair/with charges.

If you need additional service like minor repair, battery jumping(some towing may help with FOC) or petrol. That will consider as additional and will require to add on to Allianz Road Warrior or Enhance Road Warrior for car insurance.

Please refer to the link below for more info

https://www.allianz.com.my/roadside-assistance


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post Jan 25 2016, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(tropicanagolf @ Jan 24 2016, 01:16 AM)
I have a question on excess claims

I stayed in a RM350 room under a RM300 company medical card. I was subjected to 50 per day excess charge as well as a coinsurance of 1000

I have a personal medical card of 400, what can I claim? Am I able to claim the unutilised portion since I stayed a lower room based on my personal medical card 400?

Both are Allianz cards
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Since both card are from Allianz, then will make the thing easier. You can combine both card to claim the higher Room as well as the medical claim limit. Just let Allianz know both of the card when they issue GL letter.

For the personal medical card 400 and stay in 350 room. Yes, you may claim the unutilised of room amount, but with T&C.

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