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Vingoh
post Jun 1 2016, 04:04 PM

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post Jun 23 2016, 01:02 PM

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I have prudential basic term assurance policy ( medical card) which premium rm1200 payable annually, can i change to paid the premium monthly?
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post Jun 23 2016, 01:14 PM

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Ok. Thanks
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post Jun 29 2016, 04:46 PM

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I don't know bank provide medical plan. What different medical plan from agent or bank?
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post Jul 21 2016, 03:44 PM

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Hi, my brother has a prudential investment link insurance (medical card,life insurance , pa and some other rider), bought 10 years ago, recently he want to upgrade his medical card, but the agent told him not easier to upgrade due to the policy bought 10 years ago and he pursuit my brother buy new policy instead of upgrade. He give my brother 2 option
1, increase premium monthly rm150 to rm290 first, but all rider stay same with same amount, after that he try to upgrade my brother medical card but the problem is if prudential not approve to upgrade his medical card, my brother need to pay rm290 instead of rm150 every month, but all his rider stay same, is sound like not worth, pay rm290 every month but nothing increase or upgrade if new medical card not approved.
2, surrender old policy, bought new one. Not worth also,right? if everyone upgrade policy not approved, that mean we need to surrender old policy every 10 year and bought new policy every 10years, how about our cash value, we only can get back not much cash value if always surrender every 10 years. Please give some advise, thanks

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post Jul 24 2016, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Jul 21 2016, 06:50 PM)
Upgrading means an added risk to the insurer and it will require a full medical underwriting unless his policy is being offered with Guaranteed Issuance Offer (GIO) or Simple Issuance Offer (SIO).

GIO is normally granted to policy that has not claimed before while SIO, minimal claims and requires some medical underwriting.

Ask the servicing agent whether your brother's policy is offered for SIO or GIO.

If the policy is not selected for the GIO or SIO, then 3rd option is performing a manual upgrade which will require full medical underwriting.

At times it is advisable to get another policy if there are slight issue with our health. For example benign cysts which wasnt a problem in the old policy. If he is worried on the higher premium, he can get another plan with a higher deductible plan.

If we were to upgrade on the existing policy, the benign cysts will be an Exclusion, which will result in future cysts claims being rejected.

Do note that SIO or GIO has only 30 days Waiting Period, whereas getting a new policy up to 120 days Waiting Period for Specified Illness.

So the decision on whether to do an upgrade or an add on will be very much dependent on his health status.

Ps. In Prudential, there is a strict rule of trying to do a Replacement of Policy to protect the client. If the agent were to cancel your old plan and get another within 1 year, the new policy will not be paid with any commission.
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Can we reverse back to rm150 from rm290 premium monthly if medical card not successful upgrade?
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post Aug 6 2016, 10:37 PM

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Hi sifu, AIA investment link insurance policy insured you until 100 years old, but their premium amount unchange for 30years; premium amount will increase 30 years later, am i correct? May i know prudential also same? Or if we bought prudential investment link insurance policy until 80 years old, the premium amount is unchanged till 80 years old or it will increase 30 years later?
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post Aug 7 2016, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Aug 6 2016, 10:42 PM)
The premium upon inception of the policy is fixed but the cost of insurance will increase over time.

This is applicable to all investment policy from any life insurance company. Should the cash value in the future is unable to pay off the cost of insurance then you will need to do top up on your premium. Cost of insurance is not fixed and subject to any increase in the future.
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Sifu, what mean A-plus saver for AIA ILP?
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post Aug 8 2016, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Aug 7 2016, 10:41 AM)
It's a scheduled monthly top up that is purely invested into buying units rather than bring used to pay for the monthly premium charges. This is unlike the normal premium you pay which part of it will be used to pay the monthly cost of insurance and the the rest will be used to purchased units.

It will greatly increase the fund value of your account with this method as more premium are used to buy units.
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Sifu, add A-plus saver to ILP plan, mean 100%premium to buy unit? If not add A-Plus saver, how many percetange of premium using to buy unit? Will A-plus saver add to ILP plan more risky since investment not guaranteed return? And why adding A-plus saver to ILP plan will reduce our premium amount (same ILP plan without A-plus saver premium rm370, with A-plus saver premium rm290)? Thanks
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post Aug 9 2016, 12:45 PM

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For AIA insurance, what different between A plus critical care and A plus critical early protection?
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post Aug 9 2016, 06:29 PM

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Thanks lifebalance, my agent missing already, can't contact him. So i am trying to read and compare to choose most suitable insurance for myself.
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post Oct 21 2016, 11:00 PM

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May i know how to surrender PRUDENTIAL ILP policy and get the cash value? How much time it take to surrender PRUDENTIAL policy? Do i get my cash value immediately when i surrender the policy?
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post Oct 26 2016, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 21 2016, 11:03 PM)
They will bank in the money to you within 2 weeks after you cancel a policy

Just walk into a branch and apply for a cancellation

Why want to cancel in the first place?
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Want upgrade my policy but the agent told me cannot upgrade, just cancel and buy new one
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post Oct 26 2016, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 26 2016, 02:59 PM)
You're holding a standalone policy or investment link?
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Investment link policy
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post Oct 27 2016, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 26 2016, 03:21 PM)
If it's investment link plan then can upgrade.  its time to fire ur agent if that's his advise to you.
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My policy bought 10 year ago, still can upgrade?
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post Oct 27 2016, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ayrehn @ Oct 26 2016, 04:31 PM)
Here's something for everyone (again)  blush.gif

As I've always mentioned to anyone, the benefits of hospital card limit, monthly premium or the coverage for life, accident or critical illness is one thing and usually similar across the board(all insurance companies) because they're all governed under BNM.

Based on experience, the most important factor to consider is to ensure the policy you're taking up is sure to protect you until the end. Not solely because CompanyA can give you 150k but CompanyB can give you 200k.

When you acquire a policy, you have to make sure of the following two clauses in your policy contract;
Withdrawal Portfolio Condition
"Company reserves the right to cancel the portfolio as a whole if it decides to discontinue underwriting this insurance product"
It shows that any company with this clause can cancel your policy whenever they deem necessary. Why? Old age? Had health issues before and now 50years old?

(1)Non-Cancellable / (2)Guaranteed Renewable
There is also a slight difference in these 2 terms. (Yes, thats how tricky companies are)
(1)Clearly shows as the name speaks itself that the policy is non-Cancellable by the Company once they approved your application until your agreed terms - Premiums, benefits and age 70-100.

(2)The company guarantees you renewal BUT the premium may differ. For example, age 20 paying RM200 a month. When you're age 50 or 60, the company still guarantees you renewal at a different premium price. Why is that? I wouldnt know the answer but I know one thing, that company is not genuine to help their clients but to save themselves. If a company takes you up and promised to protect you until the end of your days.. why state such clauses in your policy?

Do you want something that may be taken away from you or you know for sure it will be with you forever?

If either one not stated in the policy? Even worse.

Think about it.
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May i know which company provided non cancellable policy?

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post Feb 11 2017, 05:05 PM

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Anyone surrender AIA insurance before? How to get back our cash value, can i choose get cheque from AIA now?
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post Feb 11 2017, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 11 2017, 05:11 PM)
Why do you want to surrender it in the first place?
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Need the money. Can i get cheque from AIA instead of direct bank in to my account?
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post Feb 11 2017, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(Vingoh @ Feb 11 2017, 05:05 PM)
Anyone surrender AIA insurance before? How to get back our cash value, can i choose get cheque from AIA now?
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Anyone know, can i get cheque from AIA?
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post Feb 12 2017, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Feb 11 2017, 11:42 PM)
The straight answer is Yes.

However, direct debit into your account is quicker if you're running for time.
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