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Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance
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Mar 3 2016, 12:05 PM
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Mar 5 2016, 10:43 PM
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Are you insured? Or over-insured? Or you’re unsure of your life insurance situation? Here, we provide frank insights on medical insurance, focussing on various types of critical illness insurance that could help to unravel your dilemma and discover solutions in medical insurance.
Q1: My company provides medical insurance for me. If I am hospitalised, the hospital expenses will be paid for by the insurance company. However, my agent says that I need another medical insurance to cover for critical illnesses. How many types of medical insurances are there? A: Medical insurance, also called health insurance, provides you with financial assistance if you suffer from a medical condition. There are 2 main types of medical insurances – Critical Illness Insurance and Hospital & Surgical Insurance (Hospital Insurance, for short). These two types of insurance provide very different coverage; one pays you a lump sum if you suffer from a medical condition, the other reimburses you the actual medical expenses incurred if you are hospitalised. Critical Illness insurance pays a lump sum if you suffer from one of the 36 critical illnesses defined in the policy contract. You can use this payment to pay for treatment of the critical illness, for costs of rehabilitation or nursing care, for purchases of medical tools and equipment to support your disability or even for costs incurred in renovating your house to be more disabled-friendly. Hospital Insurance reimburses the actual expenses incurred for the treatment of your illness in a hospital. Besides paying for the cost of in-hospital expenses, it also pays forthe cost of initial diagnosis of the illness prior to your admittance and for follow up treatments after being discharged from the hospital. Q2: My brother wants to terminate his hospital insurance because the insurance company wants to increase his premium even though he has not made any claims before. I have been trying to convince him to continue with his hospital insurance as one needs the protection of hospital insurance to cover for the increasing cost of medical treatments. What would be the options on this? A: You are absolutely right to convince him to continue with his hospital insurance policy as everyone needs the protection it provides. People who do not own one is deemed to be insuring the risks themselves. In insurance term, this is called self-insurance. The main advantage of insurance is the sharing of risks where the insured pays premium into a pool. If the insured event happens, a sum of money will then be taken out from the pool to pay for the loss arising from that event. The premium paid for transferring such risks into the pool is very much smaller than the financial loss that could arise if the event actually happens. The costs of medical treatments have gone up every year in view of inflation; for better healthcare facilities being built, better services, introduction of new and more advance tests and procedures, more advance diagnostic tools and equipment being used and more effective drugs being prescribed. All of these are expensive and will add to the increased costs of medical diagnosis and treatments. It is for the above same reasons that premium for hospital insurance cannot remain the same throughout the policy duration. The premium for hospital insurance is not guaranteed and will increase as the costs of medical treatment increases. If the total hospital insurance claims are high, it will also contribute to an increase in premium. It is, hence, important not to abuse it. Most insurance companies increase the whole portfolio rather than on individual basis, so that the increase is almost negligible in cost to policyholders. It is advisable for your brother to reconsider his decision and to renew his hospital insurance while he is still insurable and can own one. Premium also increases with age; the older he gets, the higher the premium. Q3: I am now employed as a manager and my company pays for my medical expenses when I am sick or is hospitalised. I am considering changing my job for my career advancement in the near future. In doing so, I will be left without any hospital insurance if I do not own one myself. Will I be ‘over-insured’ if I am to purchase another hospital policy now? A: You can be ‘over-insured’ if you possess 2 hospital plans at the same time as you can only claim from one policy at any one time. Hospital insurance reimburses you for the actual cost of hospitalisation. Once you have been reimbursed for the hospital bills from one policy, you cannot claim again from the other policy. Having said that, the question of whether you need to purchase another hospital plan will depend on your needs. There are circumstances that may justify the need for more than one policy. If you are to leave your current job, you will be exposed to periods when you will not be covered by any hospital insurance. In such a situation, it might be worthwhile for you to own hospital insurance yourself without having to rely on your employer. Further, there is also the question of whether your new employer will provide you with hospital insurance. People who will be retiring in the near future may want to consider owning their own hospital policy before they retire. As one ages, the risk of being ill is very high. Insurance companies may not offer hospital insurance if your health is substandard. www.liam.org.my |
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Mar 7 2016, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(rainderain @ Mar 7 2016, 10:10 AM) If you are not clear, you may call up the insurance company and refer ur policy and they will let you know how much is going for life insurance and how much is medical insurance. |
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Mar 7 2016, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Mar 7 2016, 10:24 AM) at some point insurance company really does their job.. i think we shouldn't flame that they 100% not protecting or totally not giving benefits to ppl.. bro, you can ignore that supersound le, he's hardcore anti-insurance 1, he will even shoot the moon down from the orbit to tell you that insurance is useless because he kena con 24/7 by all insurance agent. |
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Mar 7 2016, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Mar 7 2016, 10:32 AM) numerous of cases i saw from my relatives to friends, who admitted to hospital regardless of small case like dengue/removal of tiny stone, or big case like cancer, luckily they had medical card to pay off the bills.. cases like cancer insurance company did pay out the CI benefits.. |
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Mar 7 2016, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Mar 7 2016, 10:41 AM) bad story was like somebody didn't include medical coverage but only bought savings/life.. when come to hospitalization and not able to claim then blame insurance company or agent didn't include medical benefits.. |
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Mar 7 2016, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Mar 7 2016, 03:54 PM) For the benefit of all our brothers and sisters here on LYN, I think from now onwards, all his claims against insurance malpractice has to be proven with the receipt or letter officially stating what he claims, otherwise, he's just a bag of wind.Please, I beg you to reveal the hospital that has such a practice. |
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Mar 8 2016, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE(bettachick @ Mar 8 2016, 07:08 PM) hello people, Seems like Agent 1 proposed ILP with medicalI'm in mid 20s. two agents approached me with two different proposals, respectively Agent 1: -Death 80k(99yr)+TPD 80k(70yr)+CI 80k(99yr)+AL=990K +Investment RM200 per month very straight forward. Agent 2: Suggest buy medical-investment linked, buy another life insurance standalone(traditional) Medical linked investment=1.9k per annum Life insurance itself=800 per annum RM225 per month Why buy separate? Pay life insurance rm800 for entire life, CI value increases. Investment linked plan (from agent 1) price will be reviewed and thus increases when i get older, life insurance incorporated in it will be more expensive. Which is reasonable? Wheres Agent 2 proposed ILP with medical card + term life. What are you looking for exactly ? |
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Mar 8 2016, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(bettachick @ Mar 8 2016, 07:21 PM) I wanted the most basic medical and life insurance. I have a budget <200 per annum. Will need to see your total commitments and the expenses you are paying every month. On top of that whether do you have any responsibility towards your family in the event you're no longer here. Feel free to pm me some of these details so that I can see what can work out for you.I'm not too sure if the proposals they presented is too much for me for my age now or I need to actually plan to prepare for future (their selling point |
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Mar 8 2016, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE(lls119 @ Mar 8 2016, 07:56 PM) My insurance covers physiotherapy. When were you hospitalized ? I am having knee pain now but would like to have a x-ray or mri checkup. What should i do so that i claim it with y insurance card How long did your physiotherapy benefit cover up to ? If you want to claim insurance for this x ray or mri. Make sure it's been recommended by the doctor and subsequently told you that x ray or mri is required for further diagnosis. If they require you to be hospitalized then you may claim from your medical card for all these plus any surgery. Otherwise if the doctor said you're fine, just some minor injury and you can leave without staying in the hospital. Then you can't claim under your medical card. |
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Mar 9 2016, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(bettachick @ Mar 9 2016, 08:41 AM) My intention is just to get a medical card to cover my bill expenses and also life insurance just in case , I'm gone and for my fam. Not so fond of investment thingy because im good in saving. Nowadays insurance comes with some investment feature to make use of the money you paid to the insurance company for investment which will generate cash value to make your overall ownership in the long term cheaper compared to term insurance. I didn't know donate blood have this privilege? QUOTE(feathercool @ Mar 9 2016, 08:54 AM) Sure what are you looking for ? |
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Mar 10 2016, 07:16 AM
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QUOTE(lls119 @ Mar 10 2016, 12:06 AM) I dont have any accident You may go to hospital to get it checked and see what's going on with your knee. It's still to your benefit that you know what's going on with your knee rather than thinking about the fees for an X-ray which normally wouldn't cost a lot together with a consultation of the Doctor for the diagnosis.Mayb some sports injurury Now knee got a bit pain If not staying at hospital, then cant claim? 4k for physio Medical card will normally have these clause as an exclusion meaning not covered. 1. Hospitalization primarily for investigatory purposes, diagnosis, X-ray examination, general physical or medical examinations, not incidental to treatment or diagnosis of a covered Disability or any treatment which is not Medically Necessary and any preventive treatments, preventive medicines or examinations carried out by a Physician, vitamins/food supplements and treatments specifically for weight reduction or gain; 2. Any treatment or investigation which is not Medically Necessary, or convalescence, custodial or rest care; |
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Mar 10 2016, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(alandhw @ Mar 10 2016, 12:14 PM) Need some advise here. You have to ask urself I already have SmartProtection from GE. Looking for increase the TPD and CI coverage value. I should upgrade the existing policy or buy new policy? Whether you feel happy to give more business to your current GE agent. Otherwise can look for another agent to buy the policy from. The upgrade will depend on how much you plan to upgrade as well. If the amount is not alot then upgrade with the existing policy. If the amount is alot then you can plan to get from other agents if you're unhappy or not satisfied This post has been edited by lifebalance: Mar 10 2016, 12:22 PM |
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Mar 12 2016, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(roti bakar @ Mar 12 2016, 12:56 AM) Hi Guys, Apply and get the policy out. Choose the one you want to keep. Otherwise you'll just never know the answer.I'm 31 and finally I decided to get a medical card/ insurance. My medical condition as of today: 1. Ankle ligament torn (due to sports). Happened last year. - 1st doc suggested surgery. I consulted 2 more doctors in another hospital. 2nd and 3rd doc said I can carry on without surgery as long it doesn't stop me from my daily activities. So after 2 months of rehab session I ruled out surgery and I feel normal. 2. Fatty liver (health screening report September 2015). Are the above serious medical issues for the insurer? I don't want to hide my medical history because I know few years down the road it may cause me problem when if something related to the above strikes. What I need? Any medical insurance/ card that offers coverage without extra loading/ exclusion for the abovementioned condition. Are there any? I welcome feedback from agents who have handled the above condition and I'm willing to buy from you. I have met a few agents before. They are unsure whether the above case can go without extra loading/ exclusion. So please shed your opinion if you have come across similar case. Presumptions/ speculations will not help me. Otherwise what I have in mind is apply to a few companies simultaneously (of course declare the history). Select the one which offers me without extra loading/ exclusion and cancel the other policies within the 15 days cooling period. Is this a practical way forward? It's just like getting a girlfriend and you're thinking too much whether she likes you or not. |
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Mar 12 2016, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(baymax7 @ Mar 12 2016, 10:35 PM) Dear Insurance sifu, AIA also has cancer plan under AIA 360 that features power reset and early cancer payment Recently, I came across this advertisement. AXA 200 CancerCare https://110cancercare.com/ - 50% of Cancer Patients Will Be Financially Broke A Year After Diagnosis - 1 in 4 People in Malaysia Will Develop Cancer It started me thinking on cancer treatment, a few questions came to my mind: 1. Does insurance medical card cover for hospitalization of early stage cancer? 2. Does it cover for treatment (chemotherapy/radiotherapy/etc.) for early stage cancer? Thanks for helping to answer this for the benefit of those buying insurance. 1. If diagnosed early and found out. Medical card will pay for any surgery to remove it 2. Yes. It will cover under outpatient cancer treatment If you have cancer plan then it will pay out as lump sum as pocket money |
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Mar 14 2016, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(Bussybody @ Mar 14 2016, 01:09 PM) Hi Can only claim from one medical card at a timei am curios whether can i claim my personnel insurance and company provided insurance at a same time? for example; lets say if someone involved in an accident and hospitalize for a month (or so unlucky pass away), can he/she claim his/her own personnel bought insurance and company one at a same time? Thank u. If company medical card exceeded limit then only can claim that portion on your personal medical card This post has been edited by lifebalance: Mar 14 2016, 01:15 PM |
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Mar 14 2016, 01:46 PM
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Mar 14 2016, 02:28 PM
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Mar 14 2016, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Mar 14 2016, 02:47 PM) Hi, Hi Sitting DuckWonder any one can help me. I'm having a investment link life and medical plan with AIA that I bought more than 10 years ago. Back then the medical plan has co insurance and lifetime limit. I found out recently that the new medical Plan do not have co insurance and life limit any more so I approach another agent from AIA asking whether I'm able to upgrade my existing medical plan. However, I'm being told by this new agent that even if I upgrade the exciting plan, the medical plan will still follow the old coverage which still has lifetime limit and co insurance. The only way that I could get the new medical plan without co insurance and lifetim limit is to buy a new plan. Anyone can advise me whether this is true ? I feel that I have been paying for the last 10 year plus and it's quite a waste just throwing it away and have to start again with cool off period and the need to declare my health status again. Thanks You may upgrade the policy anytime, no issue on that part. You don't have to cancel the plan that you bought for 10 years. However, when you upgrade, you have to go through the same thing again for the cooling off period and declare ur health again. Feel free to ask me anything about AIA. |
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Mar 15 2016, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE(InabaKai @ Mar 15 2016, 02:15 PM) Hi guys,i hope someone can answer my question, Hi InabaKaiI want to withdraw some money from my Life insurance,to pay my study fee,so i go to their branch to ask if i can withdraw some,and he give me 3 option: 1)Loan some money rm1,xxx 2)Bonus rm4,xxx 3)close account rm7,xxx I thought to choose close account,because,i can more. Not much though,so i ask my mon opinion,because this,insurance from my mom,she say,dont close my account,because it will increase to RM150,000 ,when i 55 years, Is it true? Regards to ur question, Your insurance policy is there to provide you protection in misfortune events. Should you choose to "close account", you will not be covered anymore. As the company will completely withdraw your surrender amount and give you the RM7xxx. However, you have the option to take a loan from ur account and withdraw partially instead of fully closing ur account. However, you will need to top back the amount later on once you're financially more stable. When you keep your insurance policy until you're 55 years old, It's projected to gain as much as RM150k. But might be higher or lower than the amount as it's just a projection. You will need to decide whether this RM7000 is really what you urgently need at the moment. But don't do it out of compulsion for a short term goal. You need to figure out whether are there any other ways other than taking out this insurance money. |
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