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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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post Sep 8 2016, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(pvateme @ Sep 8 2016, 03:51 PM)
Can share with me which insurance companies will consider application from patient who had cancer previously ? safe from cancer after a certain period, may be 5 years ?
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What kind of cancer u got ?

QUOTE(Gohan-kun @ Sep 8 2016, 03:57 PM)
thanks for replying  biggrin.gif

i target minimum premium rm250-300 to better utilize the income tax relief on [health insurance]
well i wish to get higher CI because 100k - 200k seems low ?
affordability - should be no problem
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bear in mind, CI and Medical Rider falls under Health Insurance tax, Life insurance falls under Insurance/EPF tax
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post Sep 8 2016, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(pvateme @ Sep 8 2016, 04:04 PM)
a surviving woman after 5 yrs of diagnosis of breast cancer.
CI and hospitalization is the priority than life and saving.
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I don't think so, will need to look into your histopathology report on ur blood, will only at most offer you life with loading, no medical or CI.

You may also opt for a personal accident policy.

Which is why it's always important to get ur insurance before it's too late.
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post Sep 8 2016, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(spreeeee @ Sep 8 2016, 05:52 PM)
the report was since january 2016, and i would like to apply new one today.. so based on the old january report for the cholesterol figure?
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You'll most likely be required to check on the latest report by the panel doctor of the insurance company
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post Sep 9 2016, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Sep 9 2016, 12:43 PM)
Need help and advice here bros and sis.

My mom is 68 this year, she has a "bloodly" insurance policy that my late dad bought for her which is valid until 70 years old. Have check with the insurance company, this policy is not renewable, not extendable and no cash value if nothing happen till 70. I do not know what kind of policy is this, and wonder how come my dad will buy this kind of stupid policy which is basically useless if she lives longer than 70.

I would like to purchase a new life and medical policy for my mom.
I need to know if this is possible since she already 68, but she has no illness and very healthy curently.

Look forward to your valuable advices.

Thanks in advance.
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Yes still possible, last entry age is 70 year old for AIA medical card. But will need to go for medical check up ya

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post Sep 9 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Ayrehn @ Sep 9 2016, 02:00 PM)
" I do not know what kind of policy is this, and wonder how come my dad will buy this kind of stupid policy which is basically useless if she lives longer than 70"
It's not wrong tho. Its just another type of policy your dad took up.
It's a standalone policy(hospital card only) which provides you hospitalization benefits and as mentioned, the company allows you to choose how long you want the hospital card for - age 70? 80? 90? 100?

In my opinion, a comprehensive ILP plan would be much more beneficial for us.
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Comprehensive plan is definitely more recommended but also need to watch for your budget especially when you're buying at age 68

It might the break the bank
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post Sep 9 2016, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Sep 9 2016, 03:35 PM)
Hi mate,

any idea how much will be the premium for whole life policy for 68?
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That depends on what rider you put in as well. Can't give you a figure
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post Sep 9 2016, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Sep 9 2016, 04:18 PM)
lets say the most basic life.

medical separated.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 9 2016, 04:19 PM)
For shop reconstruction insurance how can I decide on the insured amount?

For following years, based on construction index?

Thanks.
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For Shop, if it's landed, can take in about 70 - 80% of the value of the property as the sum assured. If it's not landed, then cover 100% of the value of the property.

QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Sep 9 2016, 05:04 PM)
So if i opt for 50k the premium will be around RM3.6k / year, pay until 87, correct?
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QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Sep 9 2016, 05:11 PM)
so i end up paying 143k which is more than the sum insured?? how come?
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If want to last until 100 yr old, about 7,080, if your mom passes away at age 89.

It will be 100,000 + 20,000 (Anniversary bonus +1% each year) + cash value, about 200,000.

Premium paid for 21 years = 148,680.

If she passes away in 10 years time (78 yr old), death benefit in total is 150k. Total premium paid in 10 years = RM70,800.


If you ask me, it depends on what's the purpose of the insurance, whether it's for final expenses such as for funeral cost, or something she wants to leave behind in her demise for the next generation.

Definitely the payout won't be as amazing as a younger person. Which is why a proper consultation is needed to understand what you really want, rather than you asking over the internet and thousands of agents giving you different quotes and end of the day doesn't meet your need.
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post Sep 9 2016, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 9 2016, 07:03 PM)
Thanks.

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If the purchase price is RM1 million today and I insure it for RM1.5 million, something happened resulting in complete demolition, will they pay RM1.5 million or only the market cost?

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How much to insure for 2nd, 3rd ... years?

Just add inflation?

Thanks.
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Base on Market Value, even if you overpay, it will not give you 1.5 mil. Same like car insurance.

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put a rule of thumb +10% of the market value. Property and Land normally appreciate in value
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post Sep 13 2016, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 13 2016, 10:45 AM)
Thanks.

Realised a few months ago that I have over insured my house contents as I used the same values as when I started the insurance some 4 years ago.

Checked with the insurance company and he said the same thing, can only get the market values, not the insured values whichever are lower.

Not really fair that they will take your premium for over insured items, knowing that they will not pay the insured values! I know, we should know as customers but they should also do their part as an ethical business.

Ha.
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You could have also ask them before you paid for it at that time though.

This post has been edited by lifebalance: Sep 13 2016, 11:19 AM
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post Sep 13 2016, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(IceBikers @ Sep 13 2016, 02:41 PM)
went to ptptn, and i need to settled certain amount of outstanding.

the only option I can have such amount money is from insurance cash value.

my question is, is it advisable to withdraw certain amount from the insurance? any impact?

just want to get more information and opinitons
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Depends on ur priority, just make sure you're able to put back the money after you've taken it out otherwise your policy might lapse depending on how much you've cashed out.
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post Sep 15 2016, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(moarlewts @ Sep 15 2016, 12:17 AM)
Is it true that all investment linked products (means buying life + medical) do not have fixed premium?

The policy will only state an estimated premium and the company has the right to increase the premium right?

If so, normally in what situations would the insurance company increase your premium? When u just made a large medical claim??
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The premium you'll be paying for the rest of the period will be fixed during the inception of the policy bases on projection

But the cost of insurance doesn't. Which means during the 20 - 40 years period, the cost of insurance could be higher or lower which can affect how fast you'll need to top up your premium in the near future.

This is also due to lower projected amount in cash value which also causes your policy to lack in cash value to pay off increasing cost of insurance in the future that you'll need to top up.

In both situation, your premium is fixed e.g 1800 per year but if cost of insurance increases or cash value is on lower projection, you'll night need to top up on your 1890 otherwise it will not last until say 70 - 100 year old projection.
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post Sep 15 2016, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(moarlewts @ Sep 15 2016, 08:27 AM)
Thanks for the explanation. Is this similar for all insurance companies?

Also when this increase does happen, is it specific to customers who make claims or every single customer?
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Yes it's similar

The increase is normally across the board for standard and substandard life. Whether with claims or without claims
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post Sep 15 2016, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(moarlewts @ Sep 15 2016, 12:50 PM)
Thanks for the update.
Does this increase commonly happen? Or rarely?
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This 1 I don't have such statistic. Can't answer you.
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post Sep 17 2016, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(mick82 @ Sep 17 2016, 03:21 PM)
Hello guys... appreciate some info...

Lets say im 34 yrs old this year earning around 4k per month. Wife is working, and i have 3 kids.

My question is how much protection should i have? How much should i spend? If my budget is tight should i focus first on my life coverage, or should i choose medical card as my priority? FYI my company dosent provide medical card coverage.

How about my spouse and my childrens. Should i buy insurance for them also? Where should i put my priority first? Thanks.
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If you're the bread winner for your family then you should insure at least 5x of your yearly income so that your family will not need to be financially concern for another 5 years while you're no longer around, you may also opt for a medical card for a family medical card which is cheaper overall to cover at least some basic amount for any hospitalisation without breaking your bank account.
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post Sep 18 2016, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(mick82 @ Sep 18 2016, 05:57 PM)
Meaning i should focus first on my basic coverage, before focusing on medical card? Thanks for the info. Can i know is 5 yrs is the standard?
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It's a guideline, by right its between 5 to 10 years, also at the same time not to overpay for insurance coverage for other necessity
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post Sep 23 2016, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(sienAa @ Sep 23 2016, 02:38 PM)
Hi all, I'm planning to purchase investment-linked medical insurance, budget will be around RM200 to RM250 per month.
Can I have some suggestions on which insurer I should opt for?
There's too many insurance companies out there, a bit confusing.
Thanks.
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Any insurer will do, just make sure proper consultation is provided based on your insurance needs.
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post Sep 24 2016, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(you90 @ Sep 24 2016, 05:37 PM)
Insurance folks ,

Do you know the guarantorships account? There is one friend of me approach me to activate a guarantorships account to my existing policy of GE and he mentioned that it will generate a better cash value in future for my policy.

This activation require no top on my existing policy.

Anyone can advise whether this worth?
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Why not post some material about it to explain further what is it all about?
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post Sep 25 2016, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Sep 25 2016, 09:14 AM)
Those are very good questions to ask. And I would like to add on to that.

Questions to ask yourself before buying insurance:

Q: Why are you buying insurance?
Q: What is the purpose that you want the insurance policy to serve?
Q: Is there a specific term for the mentioned purpose?
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Sometimes people don't even know why they need an insurance policy when they don't feel that they need 1 or even thought of it before.

The agent should make them aware of their needs on why insurance is important at their present moment based on proper fact finding. Then from there provide a proper proposal.

It's rare to see someone in Malaysia that would suddenly be interested in insurance unless they have been through some incident such as a funeral of someone, hospital or listening of stories of someone struggling financially due to improper financial planning with no insurance.

Creating that awareness in Malaysia is still key especially the 70% majority are still not fully aware of it.
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post Sep 26 2016, 02:26 AM

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QUOTE(diodorus @ Sep 26 2016, 02:22 AM)
Dear K, I already buy life insurance for myself in case anything happen. And the policy include a waiver for the life insurance premium.

The question is, do I really need the waiver as I'm only buying life insurance without any medical coverage attached in the policy?

From my point of view, if I have TPD, I already got the full sum of the coverage and do not need to pay the insurance premium further. does the waiver is not needed anymore. Is it right?
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You may still add it just in case of critical illness, otherwise if you still feel it's not necessary then just remove the rider altogether
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post Sep 26 2016, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Sep 26 2016, 09:18 AM)
I have been wondering why insurance company will only accept claims for in-patient treatment and not for day patient treatment. For patient's medical claim, doctor may state treatment is in-patient and thus charge a bigger bill. OK for the patient as the insurance company is paying for the bigger bill. Not really the case.

* patient does not incur higher cost with the in-patient bill
* insurance company pays the bill
* doctor gains extra $$ for no extra work
* insurance company profit is less, increase insurance premium
* patient pays higher premium

I may be wrong with my logic above, patients pay more in the end with the in-patient policy.

See The Star article below.

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Can someone in the insurance field help me on why only in-patient claims?

Only the more serious treatments (ie in patient) are covered?

I had a not-so-nice encounter with this day & in-patient thing at the medical center here recently.

Cheerio.
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Day care surgery treatment is covered in the usual medical card. Meaning you can go for surgery and leave at the same day. It saves the insurance company cost and you get to leave the hospital ASAP.

This post has been edited by lifebalance: Sep 26 2016, 09:23 AM

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