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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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post May 6 2016, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ May 6 2016, 12:44 PM)
While agree with your pov, in more practical situations, it's really not easy for certain group of people to spend RM1000 or 2000 monthly. funnily, those who can, will have better cards to pay for other bills such as petrol, utilities, etc.

Also, most people don't pay their insurance premium in one lump sum. monthly mode insurance premium on average is probably 100 to 300.

although i admit 0.6% of HLB essential vs Alliance younique first tier of 0.5% is really not that significant.
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Some people want to save as many penny as possible. It's just their way of living. Savvy people are like that.
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post May 8 2016, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ May 8 2016, 05:41 PM)
Quick question, why does the agent need my bank statement when refunding money back? unsure.gif

Is this a normal practice in the Insurance Industry?
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They will direct bank into your bank account. Unless you prefer to receive in cheque.
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post May 8 2016, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ May 8 2016, 06:53 PM)
I see, thanks for the prompt reply smile.gif
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biggrin.gif You're welcome
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post May 8 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(vanpersie91 @ May 8 2016, 07:00 PM)
Ada ke insurance package offer as low as rm50 per month?
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Personal accident perhaps ?

Investment link policy minimum RM150 per month

RM50 per month is barely available nowadays.
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post May 8 2016, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 8 2016, 07:09 PM)
unknown to many factors in you...
I found this while goggling...
try it to see if it helps?
https://uforlife.com.my/?utm_source=Google&...CFYmCvQodEQoHvQ
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if vanpersie91 is a Muslim, it doesn't seem to be a takaful plan. More like a conventional policy.
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post May 8 2016, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 8 2016, 07:31 PM)
hmm.gif is it a "MUST" or Mandatory that all Muslim buys takaful plan only and cannot buy conventional policy?
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It is recommended as Takaful will allow Muslims to nominate someone through Hiba(gift) so that upon their demise, they are not subject to Faraid law distribution and the full amount will be given to the person they've nominated in the policy.

In a conventional policy, there is no such clauses for muslim thus even they choose to nominate someone to receive whole lump sum, that person will just act as an executor to distribute back based on Faraid distribution.

Thus the conventional policy will defeat the purpose for a muslim to purchase as they can't choose the person they wish to give the death benefit to upon death.

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post May 8 2016, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 8 2016, 07:41 PM)
hmm.gif so, just rewind back some "years" back,,,,before there was Takaful plan.....Muslim no buy insurance policy?
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Yeap, that's right, some could have bought under the conventional policy. Takaful was created to cater that need for the Muslim market that is Shariah compliant.

The Takaful industry in Malaysia started to gain momentum when, in October 1982, the Malaysian government formed a special task force to explore the viability of setting up an Islamic insurance company. Out of that study and based on its recommendations, the Takaful Act 1984 was gazetted and came into force thereafter. At first glance, there does not appear to be much difference between conventional insurance and Takaful. Indeed, in terms of concept, there is none as both subscribes to the long established principle the “pool of the many to help the unfortunate few”.

http://www.malaysiantakaful.com.my/About-M...ory-of-MTA.aspx

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post May 8 2016, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Nikky16 @ May 8 2016, 10:43 PM)
Hi! I have a friend, 32ANB, male non-smoker, 175cm, 119kg, no medical history but the dad got hypertension. Is it true that he can't get medical card due to BMI exceeds 35? GE agent suggest him to take Great Early Living Care. But with budget of RM200 per month, the coverage is only RM37k. Is there any other plan that suits him to cover the medical cost?
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Your friend can still apply for insurance but subject to loading.
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post May 9 2016, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ May 8 2016, 11:54 PM)
What is loading?
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Means you pay extra 25% - 100% of the normal premium that people normally contribute to insure your risk.

E.g standard premium RM200, with loading, you might need to pay RM250 instead.
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post May 9 2016, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ May 9 2016, 12:08 AM)
What about those who have existing illness before? can they apply for insurance + loading and/or insurance but excluding the existing illness?
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Depends on how severe is the existing illness, either loading, postpone, exclusion on the illness or reject
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post May 9 2016, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ May 9 2016, 05:48 PM)
I need opinion on buying insurance.

Currently I am reliant on the insurance coverage provided by my company. I know, not the best option...

I wish to have insurance, but am really not sure whether to go for which range, e.g. term, ILP, life, medical card, etc..etc...

My biggest concern is the financial impact, should I be hospitalized / requiring operation. I am not too worried about the Death benefit, as am not needing the money after I have passed..

As for clinic visits, I can cope.

Opinion is greatly appreciated, and if got any questions, do ask. Truthfully, I seek fellow forumers assistance in shedding some light as to what I should do.
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You have to look into how much debt u need to cover upon death, that could be the amount you need to pass on as death benefit.

You may want to look into critical illness coverage as well if today you don't die but you're bedridden for a long period of time and probably live in with some change in your lifestyle, would you be able to cope with the amount you have in your bank account ?

The medical card will be a good option to cover yourself in the event you are no longer with the company anymore due to retrenchment, company close down, change of job or retirement. There might be a possibility that in between you're healthy now and covered under your company, but if you suffer from any health problem such as high blood pressure or diabetes then it will impact you in applying your own personal medical card so always get it while you're in tip top condition.
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QUOTE(minde @ May 9 2016, 10:24 PM)
anyone here has experience in product liability insurance?

I'm currently in the planning phase of bringing in an oversea product and being the sole distributor for it. The product is affixed to a car.

Despite there being no incidences occurring worldwide that leads to litigation for the past 7-8 years globally, the potential impact of it should I be sued is potentially huge (if it does indeed happen even if it's not my fault). am considering to obtain the insurance just to transfer any potential risk.

Has anyone applied for one ? mind explaining how they assessed the premium and how much you ultimately paid for it? Thanks!
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What kind of damage will it cause to the car or to the people surrounding it. Please describe your product Feature.

You may look into legal liability and public conveyancing liability
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post May 9 2016, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(minde @ May 9 2016, 10:37 PM)
lets say if the product does indeed fail, it might potentially cause an accident, leading to car damage and people surround it. Even if it was not due to my product, they might want to shift the blame on me. I've been eyeing on product liability insurance from various companies but can't seem to get an idea how much premium I'm expected to pay.
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Well you might need to check whether your product is certified and legal or not first. Though I don't normally sell this type of insurance on a daily basis, I can help you to enquire from the principle. Probably get back to you by tomorrow but you will need to tell me more about that product and your company background.
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post May 10 2016, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(MANKiND @ May 10 2016, 03:07 PM)
How to determine which expiry age for my policy? my current policy expired on 70 years old. Should I upgrade to 80 years old?
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You may refer to your front page cover note of your policy which will state each rider's expiry date.

To upgrade or not depends on your budget and whether you have any health complication or not.
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post May 10 2016, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(bone_me @ May 10 2016, 04:27 PM)
Hi all, what you guys think of this insurance:-
I am not very fluent in insurance policies thing;
RM150/month

benefits:
up to RM900,000 overall lifetime limit.

Net projected investment return of fund:-
Year   ,,,,,,     Paid    ,,,,,,,     Cast Value
1      ,,,,,,,     1800    ,,,,,,        150
5      ,,,,,,      9000      ,,,,,,      3000
10    ,,,,,      18,000   ,,,,,,,      10,000
15     ,,,,,,,     27,000    ,,,,,,,      19,000
20   ,,,,,,,      36,000    ,,,,,,,      29,000

Do you guys think the return invested value is too low?
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It looks like a G* policy

Don't expect to withdraw the money from your medical card as the cash value is used to sustain future cost of insurance until certain age.

Since you're not so fluent with insurance I should try to speak a little layman to you though to some people it may sound abit ridiculous & out of tune.

The money you put into your insurance medical card, is to cover you for the hospital bills, meanwhile the insurance company use your money to pay for the medical card & take your money to invest. But you cannot take out this money so soon. Otherwise, it will cancel ur medical because not enough money inside. If only emergency, you should consider take out the money and then later put it back in.

Do not buy insurance for investment but for protection instead. Any extra amount from the insurance is a bonus to you.

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post May 10 2016, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(bone_me @ May 10 2016, 06:15 PM)
what u mean by G*?

so what do u think, is the policy normal or not? with this kind of return?
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biggrin.gif you have to look into the policy overall to judge ... you just show some 900,000 and some cash value return and asking us for an opinion is abit vague.

Have you consider other things like death benefit, critical illness, waiver of premium, hospital income, personal accident etc ?
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post May 10 2016, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(bone_me @ May 10 2016, 06:22 PM)
death 50k
disability 50k
medical reinbursement annual = 90k
medical reinbursement lifetime = 900k
hospital rm150/day

i been thinking....why not i get someother like...rm200 a year, no return. After 20 years i only spent rm4000 . Instead of this policy where i lost rm7,000.
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Insurance is a long term commitment, if you look into 5 years, definitely lose money.

What you're talking about is a Standalone medical card which doesn't involve any investment.

It's a viable choice if you're on budget and don't prefer any investment under insurance. However, your policy cost will increase as you get older. Whereas the investment link policy would have accumulated some cash value to pay off the increasing cost of insurance.

The coverage seems normal for somewhere that budget.

What are you looking for mainly ? medical card ? death coverage ?
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QUOTE(mod_pls_ban_srs @ May 10 2016, 06:54 PM)
i do not have any insurance at the moment. i also have little knowledge about insurance.

my friend under etiqa want to subscribe me under him.

rm200 per month. medical card+ life insurance.

should i just take it or what? are there any better plan ?
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Can consider other companies.

AIA public takaful medical card
Rm1.1 Mil annual limit
No life time limit
No co insurance
+ 5% on medical card annual limit every 2 years until 20 policy year
+ 20% room and board every 2 years until 10 policy year
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QUOTE(KangenWaterMY @ May 11 2016, 08:48 AM)
What is the step and documents needed to claim life insurance to the beneficiary once the insured dies? my friend want to know this. example if the insured pass away overseas and the body can't be found, how to prove that this person really has passed away?
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1.death certificate
2. Local Police report and the investigation report of that country stating body can't be found and indeed is dead

Just bring the documents to the insurance company to file a claim.

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post May 11 2016, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(watabakiu @ May 11 2016, 10:36 PM)
This piques my interest! Could you please tell me more, say, thru PM?
I do not mind much about Life, but more on the coverage in case I am hospitalised / diagnosed with critical illnesses.
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For young adults around age 18 would be around RM60 per month at least without co-insurance for RM150 room and board & 100k annual limit.

Add another RM24 + RM60 = RM84 per month you can enjoy up to RM1.1 mil annual limit

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