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ckdenion
post Nov 29 2016, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 28 2016, 04:12 PM)
good conversation. I have a father who does not have a medical coverage and is a heavy smoker. there are nights I lose sleep when I see him getting old and I am not sure if I can afford medical cost for him and no insurers would want to cover him.

Well only if I pump in alot of money. he is 59 years old this year
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post Dec 2 2016, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Dec 2 2016, 12:54 PM)
Thanks for the quick reply!
So my wife will be treated equally as to Malaysian buying any insurance in Malaysia?
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yeap. since she is a full housewife, all she needs is the marriage cert and passport. smile.gif plan benefits same as those give to malaysians

QUOTE(1tanmee @ Dec 2 2016, 05:44 PM)
Is there medical cards that provide dental coverage (e.g. dentures, scaling, braces)?
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not that i know of unless it is an accidental case that causes damage to your teeth.
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post Dec 6 2016, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Dec 6 2016, 09:21 AM)
Hi all,

Can I ask why some agents encourage to us to pay the premium by monthly instead of yearly?

Is there any benefits to the policy owner? or more for the agent himself?
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i thought most agent will encourage policyholder to pay yearly (to prevent policy potential lapse if there are hiccups in monthly transactions).

QUOTE(lyt25_1234 @ Dec 6 2016, 09:59 AM)
Thanks for the quick reply. But what was being told to me was that by paying monthly premium, I would gain more on the cash value compared to paying yearly.

Or did I heard wrongly?
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it should be the other way round though.
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post Dec 6 2016, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(jes88 @ Dec 6 2016, 11:07 AM)
Thanks for the comment. I'm really consent on Point No.2.
The top up will cost add. of RM4152, so the yearly premium shall be RM6552 with 50K Life, 50K CLR & 1.1m medical with removal of old med.
Actually my intention is to upgade the med benefit to 1.1m, or should i buy another standalone med card?
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buying standalone is like downgrading. and u can upgrade the medical card from your existing plan smile.gif

QUOTE(jes88 @ Dec 6 2016, 11:26 AM)
You see, first my agent insist that my policy can not do top up, than i had to informed them that i had confirmed with hotline and then they quo. me with the top up premium, ask me better buy another ilp so let the 2 policy run together. But for me, why do I need 2 policy for med?
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it is better to upgrade ur medical plan. 2nd policy for other protection purposes. hope the AIA guys here can clear your confusion and help u save money!
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post Dec 7 2016, 04:52 PM

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roystevenung my friend bought a PruFlexi Med in May 2013 and checked with the customer service with her that her plan is RM300 R&B with RM50k annual limit and lifetime limit of 20x the annual limit.

i've checked the product brochure that RM300 R&B plan comes with RM150k annual limit. not sure whether did i miss out anything here? double confirm with the customer service with the R&B and annual limit already. I'm confused...
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post Dec 7 2016, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Dec 7 2016, 05:04 PM)
PruFlexi Med annual limit is not tied to the room and board and customer is free to choose the annual limit.

Yr friend can get himself register to online customer portal and check that info himself.

PruAccess Customer Portal
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ok thanks sifu! notworthy.gif

QUOTE(wayne84 @ Dec 7 2016, 05:12 PM)
need some advise on medical card. Any insurance company can offer a comprehensive a d good plan with monthly payment MYR 200-250 max budget, with annual coverage of hospitalize + surgery cost up to MYR 120k ? i dont need any investment link or investment portion as I put aside another portion of my income into saving and investment d. Can sifu sifu advise?
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should be more than enough. what's your DOB, occupation, smoker/non-smoker?
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post Dec 7 2016, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Dec 7 2016, 06:22 PM)
32 y/o, office / admin job, male , non smoker.
can do?
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yeap... can. can get a medical coverage of 120k per year with the budget that u r comfortable with

QUOTE(bananapie2017 @ Dec 7 2016, 07:16 PM)
My service agent no longer working thus this new handling agent previously said no upgrade n need buy new policy, so no choice that time i brought a new ILP from other co so still undecided to cancel it as the raider has been removed.  biggrin.gif
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since u already bought a new one with another company, then for ur previous plan, if it still serves the purpose that you need and if u can afford to pay, then just keep it. of course it is better to have someone to sit down with u and look through what u have then only advise u. it is better like that than just giving u advise here without us knowing what your previous plan is smile.gif
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post Dec 11 2016, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(Mark Renton @ Dec 9 2016, 04:19 PM)
Insurance company is Great Eastern. This is for my annual company insurance coverage.
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shud be under OAC group insurance. not sure what the MME stands for though. for your coverage u r entitled RM250/day R&B and your annual limit is RM70k. this plan only covers you yourself (the employee only).

QUOTE(guviguvi @ Dec 9 2016, 11:14 PM)
Would like know Great Eastern Medical insurance coverage can be extend up to singapore?
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QUOTE(guviguvi @ Dec 10 2016, 11:39 PM)
Actually i asked on behalf of my GF. She bought Great eastern 1 year ago but the agent no longer working. And she not sure about the medical treatment can be extended to singapore or not.

Anyway, i bought Allianz tongue.gif  But Singapore treatment got Co charges of 20%.
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nope. overseas treatment is on reimbursement basis and claims will be based on the treatment cost in malaysia.
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post Dec 12 2016, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(guviguvi @ Dec 11 2016, 09:40 PM)
Which mean all insurance company also allow to claim if the treatment is done at oversea? Just based on reimbursement claim. correct?
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yeap correct! nod.gif
for AIA and Allianz can do cashless claims in Singapore if im not mistaken.
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post Dec 13 2016, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(daymond7 @ Dec 13 2016, 12:56 PM)
i wan ask about deductible amount of GE smart extender 99 plan

Assumed
One client has
First Medical Plan
AL - 90k
LL - 900k

Smart Extender Plan
Deductible amt 90k
AL - 900k
LL - No limit

So total AL is 990k

Assumed in same year he has 2 operations

First operation 110K
Second operation 200k

First operation
90k - claimed first plan (deductible amount)
20k - claimed extender plan

How about second operation claim works?
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second operation claim is under extender plan on a reimbursement basis

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post Dec 13 2016, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(daymond7 @ Dec 13 2016, 06:02 PM)
Meaning the deductible amount 90k not need deduct again
in order to claim under extender plan?

So it can fully claim?

reimbursement basis mean pay by outself first then claimed?

because other brand agent told me that need to pay the 90k (since first plan annual limit fully use)
from own pocket money in order to use extender plan.
so that the rest 110k (200k - 90k) can claim

this is under another rider which is called SEM (Smart Extender Max)
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Smart Extender can only be attached to the SMX (with its own deductible limit). as long as that year itself it exceeded its deductible limit, the rest of the claims fall under the Smart Extender. Smart Extender is based on reimbursement basis (yea you are right, pay first claim later)
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post Dec 19 2016, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(strategist @ Dec 18 2016, 01:14 PM)
Hi all,

I just bought an investment-linked medical insurance paying RM400 per month, which is 10% of my net salary.
Wondering if it is too high. How many percent of basic salary should go into insurance? Most people I know only pays ~RM200 for their insurance. I might have been pushed to get a package I don't need, kinda regret it now.
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definitely the plan can help u i suppose. just that you feel regret because perhaps agent didnt explain clearly how it the plan can help you?

QUOTE(itanium89 @ Dec 18 2016, 06:49 PM)
any alternative plan for  63 years old mother with
2 dependants?
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what are you looking into for your mum? at least must have a basic medical coverage and life.

QUOTE(almeizer @ Dec 18 2016, 08:40 PM)
What is the cheapest standalone PA in Malaysia (without hospitalization reimbursement)?

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what is the individual details? age, sex, occupation, smoker/non smoker?
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post Jan 24 2017, 11:51 PM

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anyone know the schedule of benefits for tokio marine iHealth+?
i send an email to tokio marine but to no avail, i cant get any info on that. anyone here can provide me if u have?
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post Jan 26 2017, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jan 26 2017, 03:31 AM)
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Hi guys, I've few questions regarding this AIA investment plan I've mentioned in tgis thread (few months ago).

Regarding insurance:
1) What's Basic Cash value? Do I get it when I decided to stop this plan?
meaning just the cash value from the premium paid (not adding other cash bonuses). cash value is one part of the money u will get back when u stop/surrender the plan

2) How much of money that I can get if I surrender as at 33 years old?
if u surrender at age 33 u will get RM56183~RM61498 (based on Total Surrender Value column)

3) Why this investment plan (projection returns) like not growing money?
i will say this is more like a savings plan and treat it as a 0% savings for the first 10 years. of course u will get more after the 10 years savings term.

Regarding money invested vs Returns:
4) How it's calculated? I feel like I would "lose more money" if I didn't surrender asap...
first 10 years of the plan it is just merely breaking even. like i said treat it like a 0% interest savings first, this is more like a long term savings. not a short term (2-3 years) investment plan.

5) I've do many calculations before (based on my shallow knowledge). The returns of my plan is worse than I park my money in FD = 5915.5 x 10 years FD (3.5% per annum)
yes u r right

6) Should I surrender it ASAP to "admit lose" to cut lose?
i think no one can decide for you. u have to decide yourself based on your own needs and analysis

Thanks everyone for read this, good night. smile.gif
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