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 Insurance Talk V3, Anything and everything about insurance

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JIUHWEI
post Mar 3 2016, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Mar 3 2016, 10:21 AM)
By the end of March or early April, you should be getting your insurance statement.

In the insurance statement, it will be listed how much premium is for Life, how much premium is for your CI rider.

You can claim Life amount tax relief but not CI.
*Very important: CI is not medical cover.
No "buts",
No "i thought",
No "my agent said..."

The above is applicable to ILP policies.
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Whoops, I was wrong.

Lifebalance is correct.
CI does fall under Medical portion (3k)

This post has been edited by JIUHWEI: Mar 3 2016, 10:32 AM
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post Mar 7 2016, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 7 2016, 12:34 PM)
Well, I've seen people with medical cards that can only stay in subsidized private hospital as they only start paying for the policy. These fellow were lucky because Seremban still have a such hospital.
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For the benefit of all our brothers and sisters here on LYN,

Please, I beg you to reveal the hospital that has such a practice.
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post Mar 7 2016, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 7 2016, 04:06 PM)
I think from now onwards, all his claims against insurance malpractice has to be proven with the receipt or letter officially stating what he claims, otherwise, he's just a bag of wind.
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Just ignore him.
I just like to provoke him with his nonsense.
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post Mar 7 2016, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 7 2016, 04:03 PM)
Private hospitals in Seremban are not much, so is you as an agent to resolve the matter and not trying to deny the claim, just because your luxurious vacation are not being paid yet.
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Then it shouldn't be a problem for you to remember the hospital's name isn't it?

I will be more than happy to handle your claims. Just hand me your original receipts, your policy booklet, and medical reports.
If it's a legit case, I'll get it through and you'll get your claim cheque.

Agents do not decide if your claims are approved.
Whether or not our "luxurious vacations" are paid or not, it doesn't affect any claims whatsoever.
Langsung tidak kena-mengena.

It's as if you're saying
"My nose is bleeding because the ice-cream was white."

Does it make any sense?
Or are you done making a fool out of yourself?
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post Mar 8 2016, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Mar 7 2016, 11:46 PM)
Well, I know that you trying to fish me, so that you can ask your company to sue me, I'm not as stupid like you think. 3 times get cheated is good enough for me to conclude insurance agent cheats to earn luxury living.
And I spend 3 days doing charity in that hospital, so i know how is telling the fact, who is cheating. But i know insurance agent like you won't tell facts as far as I know puke.gif
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Then hand all of us here the claims which are rightly claimable but not honored. I believe many here can contribute in helping you sue whichever insurance company it is.

Thank you for your charitable efforts. The local community in Seremban is forever indebted to you. thumbsup.gif

Well, so many here have been providing very good, factual information for all, creating a good competitive environment for those seeking help to compare.
Even God cannot help you if you don't help yourself and keep rejecting God.
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post Mar 30 2016, 11:20 AM

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Hey guys, I think this can form a basic needs-based rule of thumb to how much Life Sum Assured that you should be having.

Life Insurance Worksheet

1. You and Your dependents' annual expenses, including mortgages, loans, credit card debts $____________
2. Your other dependents' sources of other income, including salary, interest and dividends, social security, pensions, etc $____________
3. Additional income needed (subtract line 2 from line 1) $____________
4. Divide line 3 by the interest rate you expect to earn (for example, if the prevailing interest rate is 8%, divide line 3 by .08) $____________
5. Face value of the policy needed (the sum of values above) $____________

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post Apr 2 2016, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 2 2016, 08:32 AM)
rclxms.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
thanks for the info and enlightenment about this option.
never know that this option existed.
vmad.gif  ranting.gif was never mentioned by my (multi agencies) agents.
mad.gif guess they aimed at higher sales commissions than advising me (the client) the better option.

thumbsup.gif thanks again.
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If your company's medical insurance benefit is provided by AIA, you can choose a plan with a deductible option with AIA too!

Check out "A-Health Maximizer".
It is a top-up plan with a range of deductibles to choose from.
I think this would be exactly what you're looking for: https://www.aia.net.my/AHMPortal/download.html

There is the conventional option, and the Takaful option.

Hope this is what fits into your criteria thumbsup.gif
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post Apr 11 2016, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Ayrehn @ Apr 11 2016, 07:07 PM)
Fuh. About time!  doh.gif
Weirdly how other companies never had such dangerous.

Now only remove haha whistling.gif
I wonder why..
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If agent koyak, matilah
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post Apr 14 2016, 09:09 AM

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Fuyoh, can feel the tension between these two doh.gif
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post Apr 14 2016, 10:44 AM

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It's down to the standalone medical plans lah.

Here you go (Pg 31): http://www.aia.com.my/content/dam/my/en/do...Med_Regular.pdf


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post Apr 15 2016, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(NightShadow @ Apr 14 2016, 05:59 PM)
sorry newb question, not familiar with all the jargon yet. what's an investment link plan?
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Hey bro, there might be too much info but I think here is a good place for you to start exploring:
http://www.insuranceinfo.com.my/insurance_booklet.php

You're going in the right direction! Keep it up! thumbsup.gif
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post Apr 15 2016, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Apr 15 2016, 12:53 AM)
I think the best way to compare, is to compare the indicative insurance charge that is provided in both uforlife and ILP quotation. and I've done it for prudential and allianz, it's somewhat similar, not significantly cheaper or more expensive.

The investment returns to pay off future higher cost simply mean you pay more in the beginning so that the investment can grow. But if I set the same amount aside when I buy uforlife and invest it myself, I would not be confined to the limited investment linked funds offered by the insurer my policy is with

Honestly, if I were to do it again, that's how I would do it *disgrunted prulink client*  rclxs0.gif
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But to be fair, PRUlink fund isn't all that bad.

PRUlink Equity Fund: http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/PRLEQTY:MK
Public Mutual Growth Fund: http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/KLGWTFI:MK

On a rate basis, the PRUlink Equity Fund did outperform Public Mutual Growth Fund over the past 5 years.
But of course this isn't reflected in your policy cash value due to COI charges, the agent's commissions, etc.
Agent's commission is only 6 years, after that there is no expense ratio at all (1.5% annually for UT).

Not only that, I'm sure the COI for ILP is lower compared to if you would have bought a standalone product, eg: medical rider.

To sum up:
1. Lower COI
2. Better fund performance
It's really no real/significant difference than paying for a standalone, and buying your UT from UT companies.
In fact, buying separately sets you back by that little bit (if for the sake of arguing la), or really no real difference.

*For the sake of relative Comparison:
Your UT: RM1k/mo + Standalone Insurance Premiums vs RM1000/mo + the same Standalone Insurance Premiums in ILP Premiums (Any insurer)

Please note that the above is strictly for the sake of comparison.
If UT so bad, I also won't buy lah. But I did as it is only beneficial to my own financial plans for the long term.

(Okay, that being said, I kind of want to highlight AIA Equity Plus fund here for a bit of marketing la brows.gif )
AIA Equity Plus: http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/INGEQTY:MK
AIA Dana Dinamik (Syariah Compliant): http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/AIADYSY:MK



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post Apr 15 2016, 11:25 AM

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You guys are so cute! laugh.gif
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post Apr 15 2016, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ayrehn @ Apr 15 2016, 03:00 PM)
Chekc out Eastspring Investment Small Cap fund.
Let me know your thoughts heheh biggrin.gif

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Itu macam Lamborghini. Everybody looking at it rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 18 2016, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(Ayrehn @ Apr 15 2016, 07:24 PM)
Agreed too. So if someone don't invest their money... the value may not be able to catch up with inflation. But this all depends on What they want la.

Super safe leh... Keep in vault.
Yeap, best. FD no risk, just cant enjoy if interest low.
Just so you know... Insurance companies are also protected by PIDM DOUBLE THE AMOUNT. Can you see why is that? wink.gif
You didn't get cheated. You just assumed "projected" means "guaranteed".
OHYEAAAH. SIGNED MY EPF TO THAT. biggrin.gif
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Here's my two cents:

While EastSpring Small Cap Fund is overall a good performing fund, it is unwise to compare it or even replace it with your EPF.

Simple reasoning:
EPF has a very very low risk compared to equity funds. For the same category, a steady return of 6% is really quite good.

While EastSpring Small Cap is exciting, it is after all a higher risk fund.
By right, I would include EastSpring Small Cap into my equities mix, and not my EPF.

Okay, two cents dah habis. Nak lagi kena top up. laugh.gif
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post Apr 20 2016, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(sohwenwen @ Apr 20 2016, 12:57 AM)
Need some advice,

1. Me, a 19 y/o student, if I want to be protected, what should i buy? accident insurance, saving plan, or medical card?

Please explain to me the main difference between each of them, and the price range.

2. I am thinking that i should get medical card to cover medical expense if any, while the other plans are perhaps better for me to sign up later when I am more capable of. Is it right? Hope someone can enlighten me with any idea.

3. My mom bought an insurance for me but only for accident, 100k if death, seems pretty useless to me because if i die or forever be cripple, the 100k won't be mine to use anyway. Is there a better plan to cover sickness and accident together?

Thanks!
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It's great that you are looking into your finances at such a young age!
Your parents definitely did parenting right, and I don't say this loosely.

Well, sad to say that you might get contrasting info from this forum as each agent is trying their best to solicit/secure appointment and/or business here. Some times even being ridiculous, having war of words among ourselves unnecessarily, making a fool out of ourselves (myself included).

Here's a portal with all the relevant and necessary info for you to explore: http://www.insuranceinfo.com.my/#

There's also an animated life stages clip with quick links (pretty useful), sort of like a wizard holding your hand taking you through the different life stages! I do find myself in it, and it also helps me in my own plans.
Here's the link: http://www.insuranceinfo.com.my/lifestages...ntPrefLangID=1&

Happy exploring!
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post Apr 25 2016, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(sinned.dennis @ Apr 25 2016, 03:09 AM)
Hey all. I'm new to insurance and would like to look for a plan that leans more on Critical Illness/Disability coverage and Medical. Tried looking around the web but couldn't find any website that would show side by side comparisons with premiums calculated. Do you have any recommendations?
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The rates are all very compatible across the board.
You won't get any real difference unless you manage to find an agent with just "cheap" as their only selling point.

Local cars are cheap.
Japanese cars pricier but offers more performance, better safety features, better durability.
Continental cars offer luxury, prestige, very expensive to buy, very expensive problems too.

But everybody who can afford is rushing to buy a continental car.
Everybody who can't afford a continental car prefers a Japanese car.
Everybody who bought local cars basically regret buying a local car.


With that said, your insurance needs should be planned around your lifestyle, common ailments within the family, affordability, your own personal goals, and what you want for your spouse and kids, and definitely your affordability.

If cheap things like a car already no good, in the industry based on numbers, the numbers do not run.

This post has been edited by JIUHWEI: Apr 25 2016, 10:08 AM
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post Apr 25 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 24 2016, 04:05 PM)
It can turn out to be a misleading statement.

You cannot claim double for medical card.
You claim either one, and only from 2, if one of them is insufficient.
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Clear description:

Company medical card covers up till 20,000/yr.

Personal medical card covers up till 1mil/year.

Should your bill come up to be 50,000, here is the scenario:

Company card settle 20k.
Balance 30k you can pay in advance with your personal medical card.
The receipt will state: medical card settled 20k, balance 30k charged to credit card.

Take the receipt and itemized bill lah, medical report lah, etc, to claim from your personal medical card.
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post Apr 25 2016, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(BuddyALSJ @ Apr 25 2016, 02:40 PM)
There would be others out there.
Let me share with you this; PRUvalue med
Company will fully pay the total cost of the chosen benefit with flexible options of open pool of RM1 million, RM1.5 million or RM2,000,000 with no annual limits whatsoever. And even after that, company still pays 80% of your bill.
Recommendations usually start off from where you're supposed to be covered based on your financial status.
And, most importantly.. the monthly commitment that you are comfortable to put aside.
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How is that superior to RM1.5 million annual limit, every single year with no lifetime limits, no-coinsurance?
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post Apr 26 2016, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Apr 26 2016, 09:51 AM)
Quick question usually when signing up for insurance will there be a client's copy of what he/she has signed? unsure.gif

Also does insurance cover treatment in other countries?
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Yes there is.
The entire application form will be printed in your policy booklet, just like how our signatures are on each and every S&P document. If you don't know where it is, come to my office, I'll show you exactly where it is.

Yes insurance does cover treatment in other countries BUT it is up to the reasonable and customary charges in Malaysia.


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