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post Feb 27 2007, 12:22 AM

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Tks Edifier, I have no problem with the LG set, it was due to ambient light. I checked it under total darkness and it was ok. It is typical that LG contrast is not as good as Toshiba. I should have added RM 350 for the Toshiba. Nevertheless I am very happy with the set.

Currently, I have tried most sorts of connection to the 37" lcd tv.
1. S-video RM 22 - Bought 24k gold plated cable for Astro purpose - terrible. worse than composite cable. I wish to have a monster cable or Ixos or Philips PXT 1000 for try. Theoritically S-video is better than composite, but the confusion is Astro is broadcasting Standard definition. so dont expect too much from Astro.

2. component cable RM 39 - Sony DVD 96h and lcd tv. This is good for those 1080i upscale movies. I tried watching monster incorporated, Lord of the ring and spider man, james taylor - nice.

3. HDMI cable RM 99. TXL link - sony DVD 96H to lcd tv. Wow. all I can say is Wow. Watching those movies is wow wow. Rich color, no more flashing at watching window frames ( antialising effects - those straight lines being rotated). Stereo sound, nice cabling. Forget about those RM 300 hdmi cables, after it is all digital.

4. RGB connection 15 pin D-Sub good grade RM 12 (kedai potong, dont buy those black cable loh) - HTPC to LCD TV. surfing internet and typing documents is very nice. Watching those 1080i movies - so so only. no wow.

5. dvi - > HDMI. HTPC connection to lcd tv. The cable returned to All-IT hyper. Suspect the cable problem and turned out to be true after I exchange the cable for HDMI cable (see no 3).

in fact, those guys in AVSFORUM suggest not to buy this DVI-HDMI cable at the moment. instead invest in HDMI-HDMI and buy HDMI to DVI converter. Future technology is going towards hdmi.

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post Mar 1 2007, 04:07 PM

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You can go to All-It hypermarket to get the RM 99 hdmi cable, it has shielding and 1.5 m length, i think it is good enuf. Digital signal is not prone to interference, unlike component or composite, which is analog signal.

Alternatively, you can buy direct from ebay.com. Those guys are selling it at half the price I stated above.

Now I have a problem. My LCD has 1 hdmi input, which is used up by the dvd player. My RGB connection is good but I cant use it to watch dvd movies. If I manage to get good pictures with DVI-HDMI, I might consider using htpc as dvd player, and do the upscaling. I think those guys in avsforum are doing it.

In this case, i think i will need two hdmi input switch, hopefully with remote control.
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post Mar 1 2007, 07:48 PM

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in theory, DVI/HDMI is superior than RGB but in actual fact, if the RGB signal is "clean" enough, can't really spot the difference.


good RGB cable (with shielding might solve my problem)

Difference between RGB and HDMI/DVI - should not be great, I totally agree with you. I am using RGB -> DVI on my 19" lcd monitor to watch prison break, monster incorporated. etc. the result is good (remember this is analog, one step signal loss in D to A) I tried DVI-DVI and the difference is minimal.

However on my 37" LG LCD, when I use RGB, i cant get vivid color display like my DVD - hdmi. I adjusted the vivid/contrast in the nvidia 91.37 drivers still the vividness is not there. In fact the graphics looks smear and some times refresh is not that fast. I dont think my graphics card is the culprit, since I am using 128 bit Nvidia 6200 MSI AGP. Surfing internet and text document screen is nice. In fact my wife use it to surf net if my mom finish with Astro.

I have bought the HDMI (F) to DVI (M) convertor for my next experiment.


QUOTE(sunauto @ Mar 1 2007, 04:44 PM)
The difference sometimes not visible to our naked eye but HDMI will be useful as it carried lossless audio signals too to be decoded by future amplifiers. They're invented for a purpose.
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I can notice the difference betwen HDMI and component cable, in the antialiasing effects and image sharpness. HDMI beats componet hands down.

good point. somebody did the HDMI - DVI - HDMI and thot that audio is gone. wrong, audio still transmit through DVI.



QUOTE(tong1774 @ Mar 1 2007, 06:54 PM)
the reason i didnt choose srt for my last purchase is that:

1) Crt connection with PC, which is kind of hassle and most CRT didnt come with HDMI, DVI or even VGA.

2) Reflection compare to LCD, same problem with plasma.

3) Huge! Can not be wall mount.

4) Flickering issue which cause eye strain.

Although there are some advantage on CRt compare to plasma and LCD, unless i can find a good CRT with either HDMI, DVI or VGA. Otherwise i will stay away from CRT. Slimfit from Samsung do came with the above connection, but the PQ is so so.
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CRT screen is so small, to enjoy best view, children tend to sit near. I just dunwan the kids to wear specs.

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post Mar 2 2007, 07:05 PM

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Between LG and Toshiba 32" LCD TV, functionality wise, not much of difference, though LG has Picture In Picture function (Toshiba has 5 color adjustment, LG only 3 color). Contrast level, LG can not perform as good as Toshiba, this is for sure. If u have budget for few hundred bucks more, go for Toshiba -> u will be very happy, rather than later come back and say, wish I have few hundred bucks more. This is exactly what I am experiencing, I am stuck with budget and (I cant stand the L-shop and go for LG)

I think many has given opinion on this comparison between LG and Toshiba plus sharp, jvc, hitachi. Basically the view given is quite consistent that LG, Toshiba are in their league in terms of value for money. If budget permits, the next animal is Philips, JVC, Panasonic. Then the beast i think is Sharp PX series, Samsung R series and Sony V series, Hitachie.

Note : I am no alamarklor, but I am quite fuzzy when it comes to Vision to those details.


QUOTE(ryansia @ Mar 2 2007, 05:45 PM)
my video looks quite good on my 64 bit 6200A AGP.
Chua, what player do you use to playback video?? r you using overlay on media player?? go for VMR9 as it's much better then overlay. overlay tends to have smearing colour. anyway, the default video renderer in MCE is VMR9.
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I am using k-lite codec with the FFDSHOW, classic media player. I will try the VMR9 again (I tried previously, not successful, it appears my connection is not giving me enuf "rich" color for that vividness)

Hi Ryan,

I was thinking if u can lead to create the LG LCD TV Special interest group. We have Edifier, etc..

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post Mar 3 2007, 01:55 AM

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is there a 1080p 32" lcd TV? does it make a difference to play high end dvd movies compared to normal 1080i panel at a viewing distance of 8' ?
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post Mar 4 2007, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(hmwong @ Mar 4 2007, 05:07 PM)
Thks, mate. Definitely will get it together with the LCD ..... after I decided on which brand...(still undecisive between Tosbiba Regza 66E, JVC SX6 or the Sony Bravia V ....but favouring the Regza after reading your posting in the other thread)
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Toshiba is much cheaper than JVC and Sony, I think. If no budget issue, pls go for Sharp PX series. You will enjoy it to the fullest. I personnaly like the Sharp 42" PX 1080i vs Samsung 1080P, the difference is not much, viewed at 10' distance but the price is RM 8200 vs > RM 10,000. That is how promising the Sharp PX series. Of course, the sharp px is more expensive than Sony Bravia V series (rm 7399). If corrected to 42", both sony and sharp are about the same price.

I have used the hdmi cable for 76H to LCD 37" LG tv. the picture quality is btter than the component cable, quite noticebly. Try watching those cartoon movies ice age, monster inc. , sharp.

next project, is the audio setup. heard yamaha surround is not bad.
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post Mar 6 2007, 01:08 PM

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I tried using windows VMR 9, VMR 9 overlay, OMR 9 renderless all giving me about the same results. I am still having the ghost effects in video mode. I suspect may be the graphic card is old or the RGB vga cable is no good.

I hope that All-IT dvi-hdmi cable is back soon, so that i can buy can try again.

rgds.
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post Mar 18 2007, 08:42 PM

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a little bit off topic

i am in berlin now. the LG is sold at dirt cheap. they have 32LC 3R for sale at a fraction of price. damn malaysia 2R is obsolete model. LG is dumping obsolete model in asia. beware

i also saw Sony S200 model unit at Sony centre near haupbanhoff for sell at dirt cheap price loh.

looking for DVI to HDMI cables but it is so expansive.

i notice the Sony 76H. they are selling for 75 Euro.

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post May 21 2007, 09:04 PM

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hi guys, i got a problem. my daughter just use the color penil to color my lcd tv. now so sakit and luka. just wonder can i put lcd tv protector or not (the transparent plastic sheet glue on.
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post May 22 2007, 06:10 PM

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I decide to wall hung the LCD TV considering my 2 little naughty will harass my LCD TV.

I am quoted for RM 400 for total job (RM 250 bracket and RM 150 labor). u guys any comment. where can i buy the bracket.

rgds.
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post May 30 2007, 06:37 PM

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if you install LCD TV on the wall, how do u take care of 2 issues

1. ugly cable run on the wall. any picture will help

2. heat dissipation. any fan to be installed.

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