'A meeting in coarse cotton, sixpence for leather and laces. Factory hardened arms mix oil and mud. A century and a quarter forward, Gunners together; battles ahead. From those first heavy steps; Men will become gods.'
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Arsenal Football Club was originally founded in 1886 by employees of the the Dial Square workshop at the Royal Arsenal, which was an armaments factory in South-East London, in a district named Woolwich. Consequently, they were first named ‘Dial Square’ A Scotsman, David Danskin is the man said to have bought the first football for the club. Among the first players for the club was former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper, Fred Beardsley who would be the one to obtain a set of red kits, the colour the Arsenal still wear today. The first match for the new club took place on December 11, 1886 in an open field in the Isle of Dogs (another London district) against a club known as the Eastern Wanderers in which the club won 6-0. What is interesting is that other than the date of this match, everything else written so far may possibly be a myth.
By Christmas however, they had changed the name of their club to Royal Arsenal. They originally played on Plumstead Common before moving to Manor Ground in 1888. Royal Arsenal would move away and then return to Manor Ground as Invicta Ground proved too costly for them. Playing in the amateur leagues proved fruitful for Royal Arsenal as they won a couple of trophies and largely outclassed the other amateur clubs from London. But it wasn’t all rosy for them as the professional clubs attempted to sign their players and they were subsequently banned for amateur football for being too professional, which relegated them to only playing friendlies and in the FA Cup. So 1893 in a bid to gain access into the Football League, Royal Arsenal changed their name to Woolwich Arsenal and became a limited liability company, and attempted to buy the Manor Ground. This ended up working and Woolwich Arsenal began life in the Second Division, where they would spend eleven years, generally finishing mid-table every year. Under the guidance of manager Harry Bradshaw, Woolwich Arsenal would gain promotion to the First Division, where they would lose their manager before the season started to Fulham. They would never come close to challenging for the League title due to financial concerns. Their playing grounds were on the South side of London where most clubs in the division were on the North side, and so to stay afloat they were forced into selling their top players, which resulted in smaller attendances for home matches. In 1910 Woolwich Arsenal went into voluntary liquidation as they were on the verge of bankruptcy when Sir Henry Norris, the chairman of Fulham FC, and other businessmen bought the club. Norris was well aware of the financial difficulties of the location of Woolwich Arsenal and so attempted to merge the club with Fulham, and when that failed, attempted to have them play on alternating Saturdays, which also failed. And so Norris focused on finding a new location for the club, eventually setting his sights on Highbury, in North London, which was met with opposition from the fans and the residents of Highbury. Norris forced it through and spent 125,000 pounds on a new Stadium (9.5 million in 2010 prices) Having been relegated back to the Second Division, Woolwich Arsenal would move to Highbury in 1913, and change their name from ‘Woolwich Arsenal’ to ‘The Arsenal. After four years of no competitive football due to World War 1, The Arsenal would gain promotion into the First Division in a dubious way. In the final season of football in 1914, Arsenal had finished in 6th place, but the First Division was expanding from 20 clubs to 22 and two clubs were to be given the extra two places in the division. Chelsea was given the one place, despite being relegated in the previous season. The other club that had been relegated was none other than Tottenham Hotspur, and they were in the running for the extra place along with Barnsley and Wolves, who had finished ahead of Arsenal. Despite all this, Norris argued that The Arsenal should obtain promotion due to their “long service to league football” and the League board agreed, voting 18-8 to promote The Arsenal. It was alleged that they only managed this promotion due to bribery by Norris with his good friend and chairman of Liverpool, John McKenna, and has fueled the long-standing intense rivalry with Tottenham every since. It has also been argued that Norris was aware of match fixing before the war by Liverpool and Manchester United and used it as a tool to be promoted. Whatever the case, The Arsenal gained entrance into the First Division in 1919 and have never left since, holding the record for the longest unbroken stretch of top-flight football.
After some very poor showing and narrowly avoiding relegation, Norris had enough of his manager Leslie Knighton and hired Herbert Chapman in 1925. Chapman would put his stamp on The Arsenal, changing the way the club did things. Chapman changed the training philosophy and physiotherapy regimes and added numbers to the players shirts, a practice that is now common-place across the footballing world. He also altered the kit, adding white sleeves in 1933, and insisted The Arsenal be known as just ‘Arsenal’ so they would be the first club in alphabetical order every time. He even managed to change the name of the nearby tube station from Gillespie Road to Arsenal, which now has a 52 metre mural to commemorate the team’s move from Highbury in 2006. Chapman also changed the way the game was played on the pitch with the new formation now called ‘WM‘ which can also be described as a 3-2-5 or a 3-2-2-3. It proved so successful that by the late 1930s, most clubs had adopted this formation In Hebert Chapman’s first season in charge, Arsenal made their best finish ever in the league by placing second, but the next few seasons had them stay mid-table. Norris allowed Chapman to spend large sums of money however, and nearly won their first ever trip to the FA Cup final, losing 1-0 to Cardiff City. Three years later, and after buying Arsenal greats Cliff Bastin, David Jack and Alex James, Arsenal made the FA Cup final once more, this time defeating Chapman’s old club Huddersfield Town 2-0 and earning the clubs first ever major trophy. They then won the League title for the first time in 1931, recording their best ever win against Grimsby Town, 9-1, which still stands. In 1932 Arsenal lost the FA Cup Final to Newcastle 2-1 after they had a goal that was wrongly awarded as a goal kick. The 1932-33 season would see Arsenal win their 2nd league title. In January 1934, Herbert Chapman would suddenly pass away from pneumonia, but that would not stop the winning ways as they would win the League again that season, as well as 1934-35 and 1937-38 and another FA Cup in 1936. Arsenal were such a strong club that in 1934, England had seven Arsenal players start a match and defeated the then, World Champions Italy 3-2, and is still a record for most players from a single club starting a match for England. On March 9, 1935 Arsenal saw it’s largest ever attendance for a match versus Sunderland, counting 73,295 fans at Highbury. The Second World War would suspend all competitive football for the 1939-40 season, and Highbury was used as an ARP station (Air Raid Precautions), and had a bomb destroy the North Bank roof and setting fire to the terrace. With Highbury taken Arsenal played their home matches at White Hart Lane while football still continued, although the matches do not count in official statistics as star players would play as ‘guests’ for various clubs when not in the armed forces. The war claimed nine first team Arsenal players, the most of any club in the top flight. Arsenal were also afflicted with a heavy financial burden of repairing their war damaged stadium, and consequently struggled when regular club football began once again in 1946, finishing 13th. Tom Whittaker took over as manager and won the League title in the 1947-48 season. They would then win the FA Cup in 1949-50, a 2-0 win over Liverpool. After nearly winning the Double in the 51-52 season, but failing in both competitions, Arsenal won their 7th League title the following year in what was one
of the closest title races ever, narrowly beating Preston North End only on goal average. The title would ultimately prove to be Arsenal’s last trophy for seventeen long years. Tom Whittaker would pass away in 1956, and Arsenal would try and fail with Jack Crayston, George Swindin and Billy Wright as managers, generally finishing mid-table, and having to endure Tottenham winning the double in 1961. On May 5, 1966 Highbury would see it’s lowest ever attendance be recorded with 4,554 in the stands, and having only one player in England’s 1966 World Cup winning squad, a far cry from the successful and prosperous times under Chapman and Whittaker. Wright, then the manager, was fired and the Arsenal board made the odd appointment of their club physiotherapist Bertie Mee to replace him. The appointment of Bertie Mee was so surprising that he himself requested to return to his old role if he proved unsuccessful after one year. Alongside assistant Dave Sexton, Mee promoted players from the youth team, boys who would become household names in Charlie George, John Radford, and Ray Kennedy. Alongside Frank McLintock and Peter Shorey, they reached the League Cup in 1968 and 1969, but losing each one. They managed to make it into Europe for the 1970 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup however, winning it and ending their long trophy drought. The 1970-71 campaign then came, in which Arsenal recorded their first double winning campaign where they won the FA Cup and the League title, winning the league by defeating Tottenham at White Hart Lane on the last day, and defeating Liverpool 2-1 in extra time at Wembley. (And *we* complain about six years. Try 17 and then let’s talk crisis) Sadly the double winning side was broken up shortly after this, and after finishing 16th and 17, Bertie Mee gave his resignation.
Terry Neill would be appointed manager, and his time at the helm witnessed the strong emergence of an Irish core of Liam Brady, Pat Rice, Frank Stapleton, Pat Jennings, and David O’Leary which gave Arsenal a still-strong following amongst the Irish. While Neill’s time at the club was in the midst of the Liverpool dominance, he still managed to direct the club to three FA Cup finals in 1978, 79, 80 but only winning it in 79, when Alan Sunderland won the match in injury time to record a now-famous win. The 1979-80 season saw Arsenal play a record breaking 70 matches and reaching two finals, the FA Cup loss to West Ham and losing the finals in Europe to Valencia on penalties. The summer of 1980 saw Liam Brady leave for Juventus and apart from 1982-83, Arsenal continued to make the top four, but never looked like winning anything. The lost both Cup semi-finals that year and and Terry Neill struggled to manage the club, arguing with key players as a drinking culture immersed itself at Arsenal. After losing to Third Division Walsall in the League Cup, Neill was fired in Decemeber 1983 and replaced with Don Howe, under whom Arsenal would fare no better. And when Howe heard the board had approached Terry Venables (then at Barcelona) he resigned and Steve Burtenshaw was named caretaker while the club searched for a replacement. Alex Ferguson, then at Aberdeen in Scotland, was approached, but he rejected Arsenal and six month later would find himself at Manchester United.
In May 1986 former Arsenal player, George Graham was appointed manager of Arsenal. Graham would slowly sell off older players and promote from the youth team and was able to dictate a stronger sense of discipline at the club, something the previous managers had attempted and failed at. In Graham’s debut season, Arsenal was able to with the League Cup, coming from behind in the final against Liverpool with a double by Charlie Nichols. This was in the midst of a UEFA English ban for European competitions in relation to the Heysel disaster, and so Arsenal missed out on the 87-88 UEFA Cup.
The 87-88 campaign saw Arsenal lose the League Cup final to Luton Town, but Graham was building a squad that would continue to improve with their young defense coming together under captain Tony Adams, Lee Dixon, Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn. This, buoyed by the terrific midfield of David Rocastle, Michael Thomas and Paul Merson and goal-scoring sensation Alan Smith, in 1989 Arsenal would finally win their first League title since 1971, and would do so in stunning fashion. Arsenal led the league since Christmas, but allowed Liverpool, who were going for the Double, to overtake them by losing to Derby County and drawing at home to Wimbeldon. The final match of the season was at Anfield and Arsenal were required to win by two goals in order to win the title. With 90 minutes gone, Arsenal were up 1-0 when this happened:
And Arsenal were League Champions. Arsenal would have to wait until the 1990-91 season to find success again, and had to do so despite losing two points after a on-field brawl with Manchester United at Old Trafford, and losing Tony Adams for four months when he was sent to prison for drunk driving in December that year. However, they only lost one league match the entire year, and won the title by seven points. After signing Ian Wright from Crystal Palace in 1991 and losing David Rocastle to Leeds United the year after, Arsenal became known as ‘Boring, boring Arsenal’ depending on their stout defense and the goal-scoring prowess of Wright to win games. The FA Premier League was then created for the 1992-93 season, in which Arsenal were one of the founding members, and became the first club to win the FA Cup and League Cup double. The following year Arsenal won their second European trophy, defeating Parma 1-0 in the Cup Winner’s Cup final in Copenhagen.
Arsenal were forced to sack George Graham February 1995 when it was found he had taken an illegal payment of a player. Bruce Rioch took over at Arsenal, who guided Arsenal to the Cup Winner’s Cup Final, but lost to Real Zaragoza from a 40 yarder in the 120 minute; a howler by David Seaman. The summer of 1995 saw him Rioch sign Dutchman Dennis Bergkamp, breaking the English transfer recorded at the time. He was sacked just before the 1996 season over a dispute about the transfer funds. Arsenal then made the audacious and obscure decision to hire Frenchman Arsene Wenger from Nagoya Grampus Eight in Japan to manage their club. Wenger changed the club, completely eliminating the drinking culture that was prevalent at the time, changing the diets and training methods of the players, and brought about a change in tactics. Wenger brought in unknown players such as Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka, Emmanuel Petit and Marc Overmars in 1997 and with George Graham’s noturious defense, Wenger became the first foreign manager to win the 1997-98 League title. Arsenal won the Double that year, winning the FA Cup. Ian Wright left that summer, having broken Cliff Bastin’s goalscoring record, his tally at Arsenal ending at 185 goals. The next few years were trophy-barren at Arsenal, despite signing Freddie Ljungberg and Thierry Henry. The rivalry with Manchester United fired up 1998-99 however as Arsenal finished 2nd in the League to United, and lost the FA Cup semi-final replay in extra time to them as well. The next season Arsenal again finished second best to Manchester United, this time by 18 points, and lost the EUFA Cup final in 0-0 game that went to penalties in Copenhagen to Galatasaray. The 2000-01 season saw Arsenal finish 2nd yet again to Manchester United, and lost in the FA Cup to Liverpool; as well as losing on the ‘away goals rule’ in the Champions league quarter-finals to eventual finalist Valencia.
The 2001-02 season became memorable as Arsenal’s furious attacking side lead by Thierry Henry won the Double for a record-tying third time. Arsenal were the only club to score in every game of the League that season, and went unbeaten away from home. They defeated Manchester United in the FA Cup, before also beating Chelsea in the finals. The 2002-03 was notable when Arsenal became the first club in over 20 years to retain the FA Cup title when they defeated Southampton in the final, but lost out on the League title to United losing their final game of the season at home to Leeds. That Last match day defeat to Leeds would become Arsenal’s last loss for over a year, and the 2003-04 season saw the rise of the ‘Invincibles’ where they won 26 and drew 12 matches, finishing 11 points clear of Chelsea in second place. Preston North End in 1888-89 is the only other team to have ever completed such a feat.
The following season Arsenal extended their unbeaten run to 49 consecutive League matches, an English league football record, when they finally lost to Manchester United. They failed to win the title that year as the newly cash rich Chelsea finished 12 points ahead, but managed to win the FA Cup for their 3rd time in four years. The 2005-06 season was largely disappointing, and Arsenal barely managed to obtain fourth place and their Champions League spot when St. Totteringham’s day came on the very last match day when Sp*rs lost to West Ham and Arsenal won their last ever match at Highbury stadium over Wigan. In the Champions League however, Arsenal made it the Finals against Barcelona, but a silly red card to keeper Jens Lehmann early in the match had Arsenal desperately defend a 1-0 lead for most of the game, before two late goals by Barca took the title away. Arsenal completed the move from historic Highbury to the Emirates stadium July 2006. Highbury was limited to only 38,500 seats after standing was banned in English football, and with the club unable to expand the stadium and needing to increase revenue streams to compete with money-giant clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United, a move down the road to Ashburton Grove was made. To facilitate the move in a manner that did not destroy the club financially, Arsene Wenger was forced to sell off highly paid stars and transition the club with youngsters, while still managing to be highly competitive and keep the fans into the massive 60,000+ stadium. Since the move Arsenal have stayed in the Champions League, qualifying for the competition for 14 years in a row, and have remained competitive in the Premier league, but ultimately collapsing the final months of the campaigns. December 11, 2011 saw Arsenal play at home and marked Arsenal’s 125 year in existence, and Arsenal celebrated the occasion the only way they know how; with style and class. The great-great-grandson of Fred Beardsley, the man who sourced the Arsenal original kit, assisted Vic Akers with the club’s kits and was brought onto the pitch in the pre-game ceremony. Supporters’ Stories were installed on benches outside the Armoury. A sixpence was thrown by referee Howard Webb at kick-off. Inside the players’ tunnel, celebrations of the 5-3 over Chelsea, and Henri Lansbury Sp*rs goal have been included on the walls. Arsenal had the Royal Artillery and Orchestra playing outside the stadium. The 1970s greats Bob Wilson, Charlie George, Frank McLintock, John Radford and Terry Neill were all introduced onto the Emirates pitch, followed by David O’Leary, Paul Davis, George Graham, Alan Smith, Anders Limpar and Ian Wright. Members of the Invincibles then took to the pitch, Ray Parlour, Robert Pires, Jens Lehmann, Lee Dixon, Lauren and Thierry Henry showed up. The great-grandchildren of founder David Danskin carried the matchball to begin the game. They even ensured there was a cannon alongside side the pitch.
Perhaps the best part of the weekend was the Friday prior, when Arsenal unveiled the statues of Herbert Chapman, Tony Adams and Thierry Henry outside the Stadium. So many greats could have been chosen, but it’s difficult to argue with the man who revolutionized football in the 1930s, the winning-est club captain, and the Arsenal’s record goal-scorer.
May there be more greatness to come for the beloved and storied club.
FA Cup Winners (12) 1930 Beat Huddersfield Town 2-0 1936 Beat Sheffield United 1-0 1950 Beat Liverpool 2-0 1971 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1979 Beat Manchester United 3-2 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1 1998 Beat Newcastle United 2-0 2002 Beat Chelsea 2-0 2003 Beat Southampton 1-0 2005 Beat Manchester Utd 5-4 on penalties (after 0-0 draw) 2014 Beat Hull City 3-1 (After Extra Time 2-2) 2015 Beat Aston Villa 4-0
League Cup Winners (2) 1987 Beat Liverpool 2-1 1993 Beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-1
European Nights 1970 European Fairs Cup winners beating Anderlecht of Belgium 4-3 on aggregate. 1980 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing on penalties to Valencia of Spain in Brussels. 1994 Cup Winners� Cup winners beating Parma of Italy 1-0 in the final in Copenhagen. 1995 Cup Winners� Cup finalists losing 2-1 to Real Zaragoza of Spain after extra time in Paris. 2000 UEFA Cup finalists losing 4-1 on penalties to Galatasaray after a 0-0 draw and extra time in Copenhagen. 2006 UEFA Champions League finalists losing 2-1 to Barcelona of Spain in Paris.
Arsenal Ladies' Honours
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UEFA Women' Cup Winners 2007
National Premier League 1992/93, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2001/02, 2003/04, 2004/05, 2006/07
National League Cup 1992, 1993, 1994, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2005, 2007
WFA Cup 1993, 1995, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2004, 2007
FA Womens' Community Shield Winners (3+1 shared) 2000 (shared with Charlton Athletic), 2001, 2005, 2006
London County FA Women's Cup Winners (6) 1995, 1996, 1997, 2000, 2004, 2007 Beat Millwall 2-0
National League South 1991/92
London Senior Cup 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2004
Youth Honours
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FA Premier Youth League 1997/98
FA National Academy PLAY-OFF Final Under-17s: 1999/00 Under-19s: 2001/02
So dia admit la dia tu closet fan suka tengok permainan cantik The Arsenal.
i think he is right ... the neutral would love to watch how arsenal plays, on our day we played the most entertaining football ... if not we won't have a full stadium despite being one of the most expensive tickets around.
unfortunately we r inconsistent with our form, hence we didn't any trophies in 9 years n BPL for more than 10 years.
anyway this year is the best chance for us, n for many teams as well ... clearly the best season to watch with so many title contenders.
i think he is right ... the neutral would love to watch how arsenal plays, on our day we played the most entertaining football ... if not we won't have a full stadium despite being one of the most expensive tickets around.
unfortunately we r inconsistent with our form, hence we didn't any trophies in 9 years n BPL for more than 10 years.
anyway this year is the best chance for us, n for many teams as well ... clearly the best season to watch with so many title contenders.
Inconsistent??
Wenger never failed to achieve at least 4th every season...
Very consistent in my pov... This season kay yet be arsenal best chance of winning the title...
Wenger never failed to achieve at least 4th every season...
Very consistent in my pov... This season kay yet be arsenal best chance of winning the title...
well ... 4th spot is the minimum place ... there were some seasons we had a good chance to win the BPL but down due to inconsistency in our form.
u may not know this but before roman took over chelsea, wenger had consistently won trophies for Arsenal.
we sacrificed on big spending due to securing finances for the new stadium n servicing the loan ... hence then 4th place was the minimum we must achieve to secure the money from CL.
now our financial is healthy n wenger is allow to spend the likes of Ozil n Sanchez.
where's the position that badly needs strengthening?
i think we should sign a CM. we have theo/giroud/sanchez/campbell/oxlade and occasionally ramsey that can play top 3, whereas middle 3 we have mesut/santi/coquelin/flamini/arteta/ramsey, and three of those players are aging.
we could probably sign a forward if a good deal presents itself, but i think we should sign a CM. maybe not now, maybe in the summer.
Apa hal game Arsenal season ni byk main hari Ahad/Isnin/Rabu or lewat tghmalam/pagi2 buta. Dari game pagi ni hingga end February, minus UCL, 8 of 12 matches will not be play on Saturday early kickoff or normal showtime.
1) Southampton v Arsenal Sat 26 Dec 19:45 (Sunday 3:45am M'sia)
2) Arsenal v Bournemouth Mon 28 Dec 17:30 (Tuesday 1:30am M'sia)
3) Arsenal v Newcastle Sat 2 Jan 15:00 (11:00pm M'sia)
4) Arsenal v Sunderland (FA Cup) Sat 9 Jan 15:00 (11:00pm M'sia)
5) Liverpool v Arsenal Wed 13 Jan 20:00 (Thursday 4:00am M'sia)!!
6) Stoke v Arsenal Sun 17 Jan 16:15 (Monday 12:15am M'sia)
7) Arsenal v Chelsea Sun 24 Jan 16:00 (Monday 12:00am M'sia)!!
8) Arsenal v Southampton Tue 2 Feb 19:45 (Wednesday 3:45am M'sia)
9) Bournemouth v Arsenal Sun 7 Feb 13:30 (9:30pm M'sia)
10) Arsenal v Leicester Sat 13 Feb 15:00 (11:00pm M'sia)
11) Arsenal v Barcelona (UCL) Tue 23 Feb 19:45 (Wednesday 3:45am M'sia)
13) Man Utd v Arsenal Sun 28 Feb 14:05 (Monday 12:00am M'sia)
Apsal asal aku tengok je game dorang, dorang menang. asal aku x tgk, dorang kena. X boleh jd ni..aku kena tgk jugak sekarang ni. mesti selamatkan lvg untuk hiburan dimasa2 hadapan.
since when i said i always watch arsenal? LOL. beautiful game in general means football. i watch as i please. bodo giler some arsenal fans lolol
Of course u watch as u please n support ur team as u please.
Anyway it's only normal to assume u watch some arsenal games since we play beautiful football n also ur present in this thread... one can only assume u follow arsenal news as well.
Apsal asal aku tengok je game dorang, dorang menang. asal aku x tgk, dorang kena. X boleh jd ni..aku kena tgk jugak sekarang ni. mesti selamatkan lvg untuk hiburan dimasa2 hadapan.
I can only shake my head at our first half performance. This is supposed to be a team fighting for the tile. This is a team who knows that if they win they will go top. What a spineless and limp first half performance.
There is still the second half. We can only hope wenger knocks some sense into these primma donnas that they will wake up and decide that they want to win the title.
All players played like turtle this 1st half, not just Per. And hated it when team suddenly turned to gangsters style of play. What have they done yesterday? playing snowball too much or ate a whole turkey till can't run?!
What irk me the most is the there was virtually no reaction after conceding the goal. The players were still strolling around as though they just can't wait for the 90 to come and go home. Shocking for a team who knows a win will put them top.
Absolutely zero desire shown even with so much at stake. Not a single player stepped up and showed they want to get back into this.
I am still optimistic we can win though. Southampton's defense looks shaky even with our half hearted attacks so there's that.
Probably Wenger should introduce someone with some energy to spice things up a little like the OX.
This post has been edited by sigheart: Dec 27 2015, 04:43 AM
Again the refs trying their best not to let us win. That was a 100% offside in the build up to the first goal and that was a stone wall foul by Shane long on koscielny.
Our strikers juz ball watching, no pressing, not trying to get the loose ball. once the ball loss, saints quickly launch the counter attack..irresponsible
Hahahahahahha this team is a joke. I am almost supporting Southampton to score more. 5-0 please. Show this bunch of primma donnas that you don't win games by just turning up.
Not even one shot on target and terrible defending. We really deserve this shit anyway. I bet not much preparation was put on this.
You can say the first goal was offside first, and the 2nd one was foul sure.. But all that happened because we were the one giving them such chances in the first place lol. If we are going to win every big game, but can't win games like this one, forget about winning anything
Since the game is gone I'm hoping Southampton score a couple more. A kick up the arse is what they need. Luckily pool did us a favor earlier otherwise it could've been a 5 point gap.
6days rest also cannot coupe with fitness then next 2 days rest wont help too. Southampton only already cannot win then vs Bournemouth The MU/Chelsea's giantkillers sure kelong one lah.
too much party and maybe still on holiday mood..haih..should have take the advantage since the top team also lose but again the same pattern... lose too...okay next game please bounce back and stay focus leh... COYG!!!
Woke up to 4-0 lol. Wth. Again we failed to capitalized when we have the chance. From 1st half, i can say southampon seem to have more desire to win than us and their tactic spot on.
Use counter attack against us. Since forever this tactic seem to be work against us lol. And they have right players to play such tactic.
Simple. We sucks badly and they played great. But again 4-0 is still too much.
didn't watch the game therefore can't comment much about our players' performance ... however a 4-0 lost sure can assume that we played very badly n southampton's performance must have been great.
hopefully this lost will spark wenger in buying someone especially in the DM position.
anyway the title challenge is still very much open ... n we need to address our problem soon before it's too late.
this is the best year for BPL ... so open n no team are condering favorable at this moment ... n everyone still got chance ... so come on gunners.
chin up lads. .we still retain a good position in the league. .of course a win would be very much celebrated but today's lost is something Arsene should ponder on
i do not want to be critical with the players. .maybe they're tired, maybe they're still in Christmas mood, maybe they didn't execute the tactic properly, maybe just maybe but let's focus on the next match. .hopefully third time's a charm since there have been two incidents where Leicester slipped and we "could have" taken the lead. Leicester and City are hoping to end 2015 top of the table. A draw from that match will do Arsenal good and also "if" Arsenal manages to win against Bournemouth. .fingers crossed
You're quite the failure as a wannabe troll, too obvious with your cliches and platitudes. Trying so hard to get a rise. At least be original, or even funny. Right now you just sound like a bitter 15 year old fan of a rival club ranting on and on. Suggest it's time to quit the keyboard. Go to k, maybe learn a thing or two first. It's getting pathetic watching you, I'm embarrassed for you lol.
You're quite the failure as a wannabe troll, too obvious with your cliches and platitudes. Trying so hard to get a rise. At least be original, or even funny. Right now you just sound like a bitter 15 year old fan of a rival club ranting on and on. Suggest it's time to quit the keyboard. Go to k, maybe learn a thing or two first. It's getting pathetic watching you, I'm embarrassed for you lol.
his account name already said it all...butthurt ma what can you expect him
Defensively as shaky as ever. We really missing coq in this game I think it's time for Wenger to really think about putting Per on the bench for good. Need that pace in defense.. also maybe a better defensive coach lol
Well... every team has their almost year... this year maybe we will win it maybe we will not... but one thing for sure we will never stop believing... go gunners
Kudos to u for keeping count for us.
This post has been edited by changchai: Dec 27 2015, 06:01 PM
didn't watch the game therefore can't comment much about our players' performance ... however a 4-0 lost sure can assume that we played very badly n southampton's performance must have been great.
hopefully this lost will spark wenger in buying someone especially in the DM position.
anyway the title challenge is still very much open ... n we need to address our problem soon before it's too late.
this is the best year for BPL ... so open n no team are condering favorable at this moment ... n everyone still got chance ... so come on gunners.
its a good time for AW to evaluate what he wants (players). January transfer market will be a chance for him to buy some good players.
So far this season we've been impressive more than we've been poor. So, it's a little too early for Beavis & Butthurt from next door to come knocking on our door.
disaster game against sotong lol, but that said guys when i analyze the odds for the game it was an odds stating that we were never winning the game (yes i was afraid even before the game was played), but i nv expect us to lose that bad. lets hope the team put on a recovery performance tonight.
2 3 days ago also keluar news confirmed sign already.
That time that news came from tabloid news sites, cannot trust one bcoz they always make random rumors. This time BBC published, they don't report if not true.
QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 28 2015, 08:22 PM)
Link not found.. Wenger tak mau dah dia..
eh..ada je lagi kat frontpage BBC tu. I silap bagi link ke?
The team is good but not good enough to win the league. The players still lack winning mentality.
well to be honest ... seems like not one team in BPL is having any winning mentality ... hopefully we can recover fast enough to beat bournemouth tonight.
eh..ada je lagi kat frontpage BBC tu. I silap bagi link ke?
Don't know, I click from the link it says 404 - Page Not Found.. Weird at BBC website really working.. but clicking yours doesn't. Same link plak tu.. ini semua salah casa la ni.
Flamini dropped? or injured? not even in d bench. Chambers is the new DM! Gibbs started. Hope no shaky performance from him. Campbell also benched. Ox and Theo to run riot on both flanks! COYG
P/S - Spurs has beaten Watford away. They are really getting too close for comfort now.
ok la Spurs getting closer. They'll push us. They can climb up, we'd still finish above them. Maybe if they manage to climb to 2nd, u should know who is on the top.
ok la Spurs getting closer. They'll push us. They can climb up, we'd still finish above them. Maybe if they manage to climb to 2nd, u should know who is on the top.
Well that is the usual and ordinary. But we all know that this year is out of the ordinary so don't rule them out.
Come on..now 3 horse race, spurs, us and city..the 3 most consistent performers. leicester sure will fade, fighting top 4 with man u, watford and crystal palace
stuck @ office. night shift again after 2.5 years, and i still don't have any access to any tool yet, just refreshing LYN & livescore since team lead on holiday
chambers positioning is nice and his anticipation getting better. Plenty of interception. Hope he can continue this performance till coquelin come back or replacement come
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If arsenal buy ighalo, sure ozil can assist another 15 or more 2nd half of the season..hes damn prolific..even 5 spurs defender surrounding him he can still score. so good
Chambers is doing good at dm position. Although he is not fast to catch up players, he still intercept ball without hard tackle players like coq. After he yellow carded, he improved his positioning. He can be our coq vers 2 if he can continue this performance.
Good win but can see the strikers are very disappointed. Disappointed they fail to convert those chances, disappointed the ball didn't reach him especially Giroud. His body language seems like hes frustrated no one crosses to him and his actions become more lazy and no fighthing spirit, however still have to give him credit for the backheel assist. Time to repay Ozil lol.
Luckily we had Ozil last night. Most of our chances are created by him alone
Chambers and gibbs are still shaky. Gibbs is also more 1 dimensional while chambers looks disinterested at times. Felt more confident when Monreal comes in.
Top of the table... while it last... Man C please do your job
^ kalau Leicester menang lg bagus. 2pts je different, 1 game can change back position, City 4pts behind so need 2 games to overtake us. If City win, we'll lead the league. But pts different just 1pt to both. 2 teams cucuk rapat belakang barulah gayat. 1game kelong, salah satu or lagi teruk both potong.
A draw would be the best result but I won't mind Leicester winning. I still view City as a bigger threat to the title and we seem to almost always bottle under pressure.
We saw against pool how ordinary they looked when Mahrez and Vardy aren't firing on all cylinders.
And we all know that a bad spell at some point of the season is inevitable. Just a matter of when the wheels will start to fall off. Vardy is sort of like in the midst of a mini goal draught already.
1. Ozil stay fit throughout the season (hope he, just Ozil can forego CL matches) 2. i didn't check pysio table, but do hope Carzorla + Jack will back around end of Jan, so we can have better rotation squad to handle injured/tire leg for Feb-Mar
A Sanchez Hamstring Injury 9th Jan 16 S Cazorla Knee Injury Mar 16 M Arteta Calf Muscle Strain 13th Jan 16 F Coquelin ACL Knee Injury Feb 16 J Wilshere Calf/Shin Injury 13th Feb 16 T Rosicky Knee Injury 24th Jan 16 D Welbeck Knee Injury 6th Feb 16
This post has been edited by sam.hajime: Dec 30 2015, 01:37 PM
kuching sarawak bro... that time i go balik kampung melaka balik rumah aja rumah macam kene serang garuda.. katil patah, almari roboh, beras selerak, air ribena pun mereka minum...
kuching sarawak bro... that time i go balik kampung melaka balik rumah aja rumah macam kene serang garuda.. katil patah, almari roboh, beras selerak, air ribena pun mereka minum...
that's really unfortunate bro.
wish u got the rezeki to gain all those lost back.
i guess a lot of us totally forgot about Lord Songkok hope the guy can recover asap, i dont know why but i really feel that there is a lot more to come from him his full potential not fully unleashed/utilize
wish u got the rezeki to gain all those lost back.
Tak apa bro... Rezeki aku mana2 lah... Sekarang baru tau siapa kawan aku masa susah Lol.. Banyak tolong aku... Insyallah takkan lupa jasa mereka sampai bila2....
Hampeh korang ni..... Tak apa bro... Rezeki aku mana2 lah... Sekarang baru tau siapa kawan aku masa susah Lol.. Banyak tolong aku... Insyallah takkan lupa jasa mereka sampai bila2....
By then the January transfer window will have opened and, although refusing to confirm the club were close to signing the Basel midfielder Mohamed Elneny, Wenger did say he will be looking for new faces - especially as of Danny Welbeck, Jack Wilshere and Francis Coquelin remain sidelined for some time through injury.
“I’ll be busy, that’s for sure,” he replied when asked about his January transfer business. “I’m already busy and I said already one month ago we are a bit short to deal with all the competitions we face, especially in midfield. We will be busy, yes.”
When asked specifically about the Egypt international Elneny, Wenger was more coy amid speculation the 23-year-old had already undergone a medical: “You know more than I do,” he said. “Unfortunately we cannot announce anything at the moment about this player because nothing has been concluded.”
A Sanchez Hamstring Injury 9th Jan 16 S Cazorla Knee Injury Mar 16 M Arteta Calf Muscle Strain 13th Jan 16 F Coquelin ACL Knee Injury Feb 16 J Wilshere Calf/Shin Injury 13th Feb 16 T Rosicky Knee Injury 24th Jan 16 D Welbeck Knee Injury 6th Feb 16
lel i've forgotten we have danny welback and jack wilshere
At this point with our injury list any midfield reinforcements are welcomed.....
Ran 25km in some CL games. Has defensive work but never been sent off or drawn too many fouls, quiet unassuming and uncontroversial. Wow I like this guy already
Only won 3 times against these opponents last season. Tough away fixtures.
If we could win 8 out of 9 home matches & those 3 away games (WHU, Bournemouth & Sunderland) we shld hv 36pts. Then we need to get 6-9 pts from those 6 very tough away matches. White Hart Lane, Goodison Park, Old Trafford and Anfield are really tough places with their crowds. Stokelona too but since they are adapting to Barca's thrupassing football than orge's rugby-esque football, then we have chance. Eltihad not that high tense environment place to be but their team are as strong as us.
usually we are good when meeting big club and throw away point with other team..wenger should plan and buy wisely and make sure we have good first eleven available if we want something..
"I am not a star, but rather a normal person. It is dangerous to feel like a star," he told Aargauer Zeitung. That doesn't mean he is not allowed to think big. Barcelona has always been his favourite team, and the Egyptian has long dreamed of playing in the Premier League as well. Now, it looks like Arsenal are going to make that dream come true.
Reports saying Debuchy has handed in a transfer request.
So its either:
1. We buy another RB, like how we brought Nacho in as backup to Gibbs at that point in time. 2. Recall Jenkinson (which is highly unlikely) 3. Chambers to backup two positions, RB and DM.
I'd be absolutely pissed if Arsene goes with option 3.
Reports saying Debuchy has handed in a transfer request.
So its either:
1. We buy another RB, like how we brought Nacho in as backup to Gibbs at that point in time. 2. Recall Jenkinson (which is highly unlikely) 3. Chambers to backup two positions, RB and DM.
I'd be absolutely pissed if Arsene goes with option 3.
No.2 can't be done la bro. I think i remember read somewhere that for player loaned out for 1 complete season to other epl teams can't be recall back. If 6 mths or less, ok, or different league still can, eg. to Championship League teams. I think this is y we cant recall back Gnabry from WBA eventho Pulis dont want to use him.
Just seen the Elneny compilation video. I think he is more of the Ramsey type rather than the Le Coq type. Looks like a no nonsense midfielder with a penchant for shooting for goal. Capable of delivering good passes including long pass.
Flamini can be deploy anywhere across the field except goalie i think.
yah, RB is covered. Bellerin, Chambers, Flamini.
or deploy 3 CB, 2DM, 3AM, 1ST strat?
No fullbacks, no wingers, surely kena rogol tepi kiri n kanan. Somemore, we only have 1DM available now, Chambers-makeshift DM. Flamini doubtful, Arteta n Coq still out, injured. How to play with 2DM?
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jan 1 2016, 10:08 PM)
latest news say he might not qualify for a permit
lulz
Arsenal ni forever byk problem nak beli org
How come he still need to apply work permit? i know he is Egyptian but he already played several seasons in Europe, right? or unless England recognised Swiss as non-EU?
No fullbacks, no wingers, surely kena rogol tepi kiri n kanan. Somemore, we only have 1DM available now, Chambers-makeshift DM. Flamini doubtful, Arteta n Coq still out, injured. How to play with 2DM?
Girouod-Alexis Walcott-Ozil-Campbell Ramsey-Chambers Gabriel-BFG-Kosc Cech
No fullbacks, no wingers, surely kena rogol tepi kiri n kanan. Somemore, we only have 1DM available now, Chambers-makeshift DM. Flamini doubtful, Arteta n Coq still out, injured. How to play with 2DM? How come he still need to apply work permit? i know he is Egyptian but he already played several seasons in Europe, right? or unless England recognised Swiss as non-EU?
Wouldn't bat an eyelid if he leaves. Good keeper but not spectacular. Was only ever gonna be good enough to be a No. 2.
And with Sczezsny returning, its the Pole over Ospina for me any day.
But I'd prefer for him to leave at the end of the season.
I find it a real concern that we are letting everyone who wants to leave, leave with still half a season to go. Which is a long way more.
First Debuchy and now Ospina. *Touch wood* what if we sell them then Bellerin and Cech gets injured? Then what?
We always can recall back Szczesny or Martinez if Ospina really go. Szczesny loaned out to different league so will not restrict to play for us this season. It just if he willing to stay at bench after being no.1 at Roma. Some kind of cruelty to Roma too bcoz they then suddenly need to find his replacement in January. Perhaps it is the best decision to bring back Martinez. He is not starter in 1st 11 nor in bench for Wolves, he is their 3rd GK. Or perhaps if Wenger sees Macey have better quality n more ready than Martinez then it is decided Macey is enough as Cech's backup.
QUOTE(kazekage_09 @ Jan 2 2016, 11:00 AM)
We got macey right as our 4th gk. A very tall kid
Macey is our 5th in the rank.
1st - Cech 2nd - Ospina 3rd - Szczesny (loan-AS Roma no.1 GK atm) 4th - Martinez (loan-Wolves 3rd GK! wth not even on bench when u could hv better chance to get on bench for us!) 5th - Macey
We always can recall back Szczesny or Martinez if Ospina really go. Szczesny loaned out to different league so will not restrict to play for us this season. It just if he willing to stay at bench after being no.1 at Roma. Some kind of cruelty to Roma too bcoz they then suddenly need to find his replacement in January. Perhaps it is the best decision to bring back Martinez. He is not starter in 1st 11 nor in bench for Wolves, he is their 3rd GK. Or perhaps if Wenger sees Macey have better quality n more ready than Martinez then it is decided Macey is enough as Cech's backup. Macey is our 5th in the rank.
1st - Cech 2nd - Ospina 3rd - Szczesny (loan-AS Roma no.1 GK atm) 4th - Martinez (loan-Wolves 3rd GK! wth not even on bench when u could hv better chance to get on bench for us!) 5th - Macey
The thing is anyone can fill in for Cech or Bellerin. Problem is are we able to replace them with someone of decent quality, someone that has the pedigree for the title run in.
I wouldn't put my money if its gonna be Macey/Martinez or Chambers coming in for both Cech and Bellerin if they get injured.
Debuchy has been pretty poor when he has played so far but given how little football he has had before being thrusted into those big games must have been difficult. At least we know he is a pretty solid RB on his day and he would only get better given more game time. Ospina as well, at least has the experience and is of decent quality as a deputy.
All we remember about Chambers being an RB is him getting raped time and time again against virtually EVERY winger he has played against. We may be able to escape a couple of games but there is bound to be games where this lack of quality will inevitably haunt us. Same goes for Macey/Martinez, untested. Do you want to risk being stuck with uncertainty for the duration he is between the sticks? What if they are unable to cope and the window is already shut?
Not saying they are shit though. Good players with potential but at the moment given the position we are in, we just can't afford to gamble with potential and hope it works.
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Those two are yet to confirm leaving rite? I read tabloids but i dont trust most of what they throw out there except bbc n guardian's amy lawrence.
i can accept Debuchy might go this month. He got Euro to think of. To fight for his place. But Ospina? what he been thinking, letting go the club that are now in best position ever to lift some trophies for a club that might offer u regular playtimes but no trophy, at Jan? Atleast wait til season end. There is nothing to catch up or worry. Columbia NT doesnt hv better gk than him, andCity, Barca, BM, Juve, PSG all hv better gk just to give him regular start plus trophy. Others can offer him place but major trophy? Besiktas? Really? What good being champion of greece when they are no different to portugal, holland, swiss' league as a 2nd rated EU leagues?
Everytime rain were playing like sss. need to let ozil dictate the game more, rite now were playing crossing from midfield. Ramsey and ox is kinda wasteful today, didnt keep the possesion well. possibly need to switch walcott up front, let joel sub in for giroud
y la when they came to malaysia last time they dont go training play in our sawah padi. if they can master playing in our sawah padi futbal field surely they wont have problem play in rainy condition now.