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post Dec 17 2016, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(miuk @ Dec 17 2016, 09:30 AM)
Congrats.... i'm right now in 5/24 jail... waiting till mid 2017 before i become eligible again. However i do see Freedom Unlimited being pre approved in my account, tempted to pull the trigger on that. Also the new Barclays AA Aviator with 40K AA miles is super tempting. Doing these 2 will push out my 5/24 date out even further.
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Yeah I doubt I would be out of 5/24 anytime ever with all the fun new stuff out there but I did what everyone else did, walk into a branch biggrin.gif I guess there is some benefit in being a customer after all these years.

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post Jan 1 2017, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(digidigi @ Dec 31 2016, 03:23 PM)
hi guys, if I have around 1m treat points from 2 card premier and another 200k KF miles, which airline and FFP I should look for if I want to redeem 2 round trip first class to New York, up to one year booking ahead is fine for me, of course earlier is better, thanks for help.
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1m treat points assuming you have the Maybank Premiere is around 210k miles in Enrich/Krisflyer/Asia Miles

Off the top of my head, a return trip to NYC in first is roughly 220-240k, you'll have to check the respective airline charts for details.

SQ Suites is notoriously hard to get but definitely doable a year out.
CX First is my personal favorite, but their one way will cost more than return.
Etihad/Qatar/Japan/Lufthansa First are all open if you book either oneworld or using star alliance charts of the respective airlines above. I know Etihad availability is decent a year out, not sure about the others as I've never tried them before that far out.

Don't forget YQ fees which can be exorbitant.


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post Jan 1 2017, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 1 2017, 12:10 PM)
Thanks guys. Yes, I am referring to OneWorld through Enrich. Just wondering comparing this with redemption via Asia Miles for CX first class to US, which one is better value for money? Ie requires less miles
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Value is something only you can answer.

1. do I value cash or miles more? What if you can get an award for less miles, but more fees/YQ?
2. would you spend time (on the phone, online etc) to save some miles vs. spend miles/cash to save time?

Go to the individual websites to get a feel for 1 and 2. Only you can decide because value for money vs. time spent vs. miles is a personal judgement.

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post Feb 25 2017, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(gommm @ Feb 20 2017, 08:03 PM)

There's a few thing I'm not 100% sure of though:
1. If I book with Asiamiles, what are the rules for changing dates of any of the individual flights? I wouldn't be able to change any leg of the trip after I've boarded the first flight. Is that correct? It's not really clear on their site. If there's no flexibility at all, it might be a bit of an issue.

2. With Singapore RTW ticket, there's even less detail online. Has anyone ever used that award? What are the rules for changing legs? Same as usual?

3. It was suggested to me that I was better off transfering the treatpoints to asiamiles or KF first once I decide which solutions seems the best since I don't want to find the awards and then be stuck because maybank took too long to transfer the points.. What do you think?
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Have never done RTW with either carrier, only regular awards.

1. You should be able to change the date subject to their change fee (10k AM) and availability. Not much flexibility beyond that however.

2. Yes YQ is higher and general availability of the SQ suites is pretty limited on KF unless you have status. But no idea about RTW unfortunately.

3. Maybank takes at most a week to transfer to KF or AM or Enrich for that matter. Enrich tends to be fastest within a day, AM and KF within 2-3 days. Do an initial transfer first (1k miles each) to "activate" the transfer and future transfers are pretty painless in my personal experience.

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post Feb 26 2017, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(gommm @ Feb 26 2017, 09:15 AM)
Now I just need to watch awards and start booking my ticket when award comes out...  Does anyone here use KVS, expertlyer or awardnexus? Any opinion on which one is better (I've used expertflyer before but it doesn't have CX awards so that's a big downside)
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Have used expertflyer and awardnexus, briefly tried KVS. Awardnexus would be useful to find routing but I sometimes end up with just the Avios search engine for Oneworld routes.

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post Feb 28 2017, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(gommm @ Feb 27 2017, 01:09 AM)
As an example I found a flight from CDG to HKG with F award and a flight for HKG to KUL with J award 10 hours after the flight arriving to HKG but if I search from CDG to KUL, both flights show up as waitlisted.

So, in the end, I get the exact same result as if I searched through Asiamiles with no real value added.
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I only briefly tried KVS, but I'm wondering what you're expecting out of a tool like this?

For me, awardnexus allows searches across a range of parameters (dates, destinations etc) that is just time consuming to enter manually into the Asia Miles or Avios system. It doesn't however have any intelligence to piece itineraries together, that's the human's job IMO.

Frequently airlines also don't want certain combinations and will show it as waitlisted/not available even if you can find the individual segments.

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post Mar 1 2017, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(gommm @ Mar 1 2017, 04:41 AM)
Ideally I'd expect a tool like this to have a list of all the routes for one world (or at least a carrier) and when I enter a destination and a start point to search for each of the segments one by one to arrive to the destination with one stopover smile.gif
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Try out awardnexus then, it does all the routes within an alliance, but typically limited by the intelligence of the back end system ie. avios or JL in the case of oneworld.

Unfortunately none of the tools are smart enough to take into account the 5 destinations in the US CX flies to that you can position with AA to maximize award availability for example. Or flying into LHR and out of CDG/AMS to reduce UK APD on an award ticket.

I'm sure someone somewhere will build a machine learning tool to take into account all the above rules biggrin.gif but I'm too lazy to do that lol

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post Mar 1 2017, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Mar 1 2017, 04:30 PM)
Currently have 650k treatpoints which probably equals to 76.4k KF or 87.6k AM points.

If I'm interested in using the points for upgrading from Y to J class to Europe, what would be the most efficient strategic cost saving way to do it?
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Why more Asia Miles than Krisflyer? I'm assuming these aren't Maybank Premiere TP?

Upgrading from Y requires you to buy from Y, B, H, K or M fare classes, ie. the more expensive fare classes. Just pulling numbers out of thing air, your options for KL to London might be:

a. RM3k on MH, QR etc
b. RM6-10k for an upgradeable economy fare on CX + 60k for a return J upgrade
c. 120k AM + fees for a full J award redemption

When I poked around ITA matrix, the price for a B fare class KL to London on CX is closer to RM13k which is why I almost always recommend against upgrading using miles, unless someone else is paying the for the flight ticket.

Spend more money, get more points biggrin.gif

Now if you can position yourself in Europe one way for cheap, you definitely have the option of doing a one way return in J. AM or KF.

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post Mar 1 2017, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Mar 1 2017, 06:42 PM)
Yes, not Maybank Premier.
lol wouldn't upgrading be more cost saving than spending more and needing a bulk of points to redeem straight a J class?
Aside from CX with their insane pricing, how about SQ and MH? Return for both can be found for around RM4k and RM3k+.
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Most airlines would have the same rule ie. no upgrades on the cheapest economy tickets. I know MH would state up front when a fare is not upgradeable. I haven't looked at SQ but I'm guessing they'd be the same.

So in short you'd be stuck paying expensive fares to upgrade.

Don't forget that both CX and SQ now have Premium economy (PEY) so it'll be a two step upgrade. Availability is best on MH, CX and SQ in that order.

In the end you'll have to decide whether or not it's worth it. Or you could also wait for sales and get flights on QR or EY in J for around RM6k to far flung places in Europe that nobody wants to go to, like Munich biggrin.gif

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post Mar 2 2017, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(raist86 @ Mar 2 2017, 09:34 AM)
any idea how much YQ does SQ charge for EVA Air redemption using krisflyer? I know the points requirement is higher, but as points earning is no issue for me, i'd like to minimize paying cash outright when redeeming flight. Was abit shocked when i check two tickets to europe (inbound - Munich, outbound - Milan) and the fees and tax came up to about almost RM 5k for 2 pax..
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With the recent announcement YQ on SQ should be in line with CX after 23 March 2017.

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post Mar 2 2017, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(ksc_3688 @ Mar 2 2017, 10:53 AM)
I have the same question as well. If thats the case, i guess its worth forgoing the 15% and save on the surcharges and insurance.
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Depends on whether you can easily get miles or not. In that specific case above, I can easily earn RM2.5k, but spending RM40k to make up the 40k mile is not so straightforward.

For others who put their business expenses on a credit card or just spent a lot of money the reverse would be true.

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Mar 2 2017, 11:33 AM)
For Enrich miles. Anyone can share how to check exactly many points we need to fly to a particular place?
I only found a chart which state the required points to travel to different zones.
I manage to find it for Air Asia Big Point but not MH Enrich miles point.
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The chart shows zones based on distance in miles.

Choose the flight that you want eg. KUL-LHR
Plug it into gcmap dot com and get an estimated amount of miles.
Don't forget all the airports in between.

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post Mar 2 2017, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(enriquelee @ Mar 2 2017, 02:02 PM)
Yes, understand all these.
I just need simple flight to East Malaysia mostly.  smile.gif
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For me, the comparison between collecting treatpoints vs. frequent flyer miles is always cashback.

Assuming 2% cashback is the general amount for regular spend, the amount I get back from an economy class Asia Miles redemption is roughly 5-6% (RM66.5k spend on Amex Reserve earns 70k Asia Miles which in turn can earn me a RM4k economy class ticket to the US. If I spend ~RM130k on Amex Reserve earning 135k Asia Miles, I can redeem for a RM15k business class ticket to the US so a 11.5% return.

You'll have to calculate the return on Air Asia to compare.

This is only valid if you can spend enough and want to redeem those types of tickets. If you can't spend enough to earn enough points for a flight redemption, maybe it's better to convert to cash/coupons.

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QUOTE(pitapupux @ Jan 20 2018, 03:44 PM)
Can I know what is the differences between redeem through Asia Miles and Enrich? Since both of them can redeem MAS flight and Asia Miles seem cheaper.
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Depends very much on which FFP you have miles in, or which credit card program you have miles in.
If for example you have MBB TP then obviously it'll cost less to convert to asia miles and book through there.

The difference is the number of miles needed, the airport tax + fees you have to pay and how easy it is to get seats from each FFP program.

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 25 2018, 10:23 AM)
I thought the conversion it TP to both enrich and asiamiles are the same....

And how easy is it to redeem MH flights through asiamiles.... usually cannot see MH flights....
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TP to Enrich/AM is the same correct.
However the miles required to fly say KUL-LHR using Enrich vs AM is different. Usually Enrich requires more miles than AM.
Fees are different.
Also availability is different, ability to book on different airlines is different etc. Usually Enrich is far easier to get seats on MH than AM on CX/QR/BA.
You'll have to poke around the dates and destinations you have in mind and decide whether or not you can get what you want.

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post Jan 25 2018, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(pitapupux @ Jan 25 2018, 03:27 PM)
If book MAS flight on AM, is it straight away confirm or on waitlist? do you know how much it cost for return flight to Tokyo from KL for both Enrich and AM?
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The asia miles website will only waitlist CX flights.

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QUOTE(ey3zack @ Apr 5 2018, 01:00 PM)
I tried AM but seems like it requires about 40% more miles than Enrich though.
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I haven't found it that cheap but good for your, book quickly.

As a comparison, Asia Miles KUL-LHR/AMS/CDG is 60k for a return flight in economy, 120k for a return flight in business class. MH is usually 80k in economy, 300k in business for a return flight.

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Nov 19 2018, 01:47 PM)
I get nothing! no miles and no sector!

it is not fair as how would i know when booking what class is given?
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You can check before you buy your tickets by clicking "Fare Rules" or "Booking Details". The latter is much easier to read.
If you don't like the booking class, choose a higher fare eg. Economy Smart


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