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Investment CEYLONZ SUITES @ BUKIT CEYLON [OWNERS' THREAD], Revival of St. John Woods project

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propertybuddy
post Sep 14 2017, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(Propmania @ Jun 17 2017, 01:38 AM)
i am wondering who will buy this project @ RM1300psf & leasehold while the development opposite (Suasana Bukit Ceylon) is selling at subsale price Rm1000psf & FREEHOLD!!!

If there is a market to do Airbnb in the area, why dont buy a unit Suasana to start your airbnb business immediately? Rather than wait for 4 years for uncertain outcome.
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1. Limited upsides at 1300psf, leasehold in many other freehold options area. Don't take new project pricing As benchmark, take transacted price of similar products in the same area to compare. Developer can sell At any price.
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2. Long term rental doesn't Even seen to be near breakeven
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3. Fully furnished units - generally we don't have good experience on rentals all the fully furnished or 80% furnishing development ourselves. Real experience.
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4. Limited target market. Lesser Alternative plan. Rental benchmark shouldn't be compared to short term rental rate to identify a good prop. Should be buying something which is more versatile. Student / middle working class local, expat and can do long term rental to cover installments with Airbnb/homestay/short stay as added bonus. If long term tenancy doesn't work, u have other alternative plan B, C, D to fall back. But if u leverage on Airbnb and the project RM250/day and occupancy rate, the fallback plan is too limited.
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There are safer yet higher potential capital gains out there.. why Ceylonz?

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post Nov 4 2017, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(cutemoney @ Oct 30 2017, 06:52 PM)
I am need some brain storm and different view angle.
Agents point of view I am very clear now, just want to see what other investors thought.
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1. Entry price - how much u enter? Is it fair market price or above market price?
2. Sustainability - how much you could rent?
3. Exit plan - how much upsides? 2 separate units (not necessary Ceylon) at lower absolute price can sell easier. So it’s good To identify why your buyer buy a dual key, higher price unit from u later
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post Nov 6 2017, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(cutemoney @ Nov 6 2017, 04:19 PM)
May I ask why you get the dual key unit at the 1st place?
Besides, what do you think the resell market on dual key?
It seem risky to me coz only can target in Airbnb.
(But I also attracted by the mykey Airbnb management concept) :S
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Mykey have any good track record in running this?
How sustainable is mykey model? Is their projection realistic or overpromised? Is it just created to “convince” people on ceylonz price? Is there no other better options elsewhere, we definitely think 🤔 there are much safer buys. One eg Proper Bukit Bintang freehold as we bought n still buying property walkable to Pavilion at below 800psf. Does ceylonz entry makes investment sense, do consider the risk & your reward properly.

This post has been edited by propertybuddy: Nov 6 2017, 10:40 PM

 

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