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 Laminate Flooring, Inovar, Floor Depot, Robina etc, Discussion on Laminate Floor

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post Apr 25 2016, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(lunarwolf @ Apr 23 2016, 05:13 PM)
I think it is not properly fit on the floor  sad.gif
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Probably your floor is not that even, the difference in height is too much that the it leaves air gap under the laminated floor.
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post Apr 25 2016, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Mr_D @ Apr 23 2016, 10:15 PM)
It's a studio, about 400 sq ft. Still contemplating over laminated flooring or tiles. flex.gif
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Did you know the detail of what they do? If for just removing the parquet, it is expensive. Probably can just remove it yourself. It was just glued to the floor laugh.gif
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post May 11 2016, 08:29 AM

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Anyone know how long actually the laminated can stay clear of termites in general or based on experience you know?
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post May 11 2016, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(pyy @ May 11 2016, 09:57 AM)
no laminate can stay clear of termites unless is WPC. Is better u do yearly check up for termites as is not only affect ur floor it will affect your roof, furniture and all thats. and one time check is 50 bux, so is well worth it.
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What you meant by acronym WPC?
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post May 11 2016, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(pyy @ May 11 2016, 11:18 AM)
Wpc = wood plastic composite
Half wood half plastic
But is not recommended since it is plastic and plastic have degradation which is bad for health
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I have this laminated floor, can't recall what brand it is, that has been "termited". It was not supposed to, not at least for 20 years, but it was. I don't think it is WPC though.

Actually, this is located at the kitchen floor but it is not the waterproof type, There was a pipe burst and it was flooding all over the floor. I did not get it replaced for few years blush.gif and it just dried up naturally. The inter-locking design is not good that panels are not latched together properly. Once the panels expand and shrink they will leave a bit of gaps.

I'm looking for the water-proof type which I know only Floor Depot has it. I guess the termite issue most likely because of the boards were soaked with water and lost their termite-proof property. What do you think?

Looks like termites go through the concrete wall cracks and also wiring. I had those cracks around the house poured with termite poison already and also at two sockets that caused power trip. So far looks okay hmm.gif Need to check from time to time. The roof frame is metal, so not worry there.
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post May 16 2016, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(the s.crib @ May 15 2016, 07:52 PM)
Hi all

Need experts' advise. I've been very confused regarding the quality of laminates. One question that I would like to ask is regardless of what brand and what price and other than those plastic made laminates or vinyl, all laminates are made of wood/paper core? And such core will bloat up when it comes into contact with water? I mean I'm not sure how much water. I am just afraid that after a year I mop the floor, the laminates start to bloat. Is that true? I know flooding will definitely spoil it but mopping?

Also, is there any external liquid I can apply onto the laminate such as wax that can provide an additional layer of protection?

I would also like to ask another question regarding lamination before and after installation of built in cabinets. I currently have the laminate flooring installed. New house bought from developer. I'm curious if I can remove the laminate or cut the laminate (where it meets the built in cabinets) and replace it in the future if I already have built ins done? Are the tradesmen expert enough to do so? I'm in dilemma coz if I build in cabinets now and cannot remove flooring later means havoc and expensive. If I remove laminate now and build in cabinet then I have the laminate joint that I don't wanna see. And it's also costly to remove perfectly fine laminates since they are new.

Pls advise. Thanks
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Laminated floor made wood fiber will not get bloated just by mopping. Just make sure no water dripping from the mop. Squeeze all excess water.

No such waxing is needed. It will always be shining and not fade. The are exposed to light and part hidden under cabinet will not show any tone difference from my experience.

I laminated all the floor before I built the cabinet. My floor to ceiling cabinets are sitting on the laminated floor. That way I do not have to have any king of skirting between floor and the cabinet. Now I have my laminated floor damaged by burst water piping. The only to repair this is to cut the laminated floor right at the bottom edge of the cabinet and lay new laminated floor. At the edge there they can out plastic edging that will provide something like lining along the cabinet bottom edge.
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post May 16 2016, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Freakystein @ May 16 2016, 09:34 AM)
Hi Guys, 1 question, normally for laninated flooring, how do you all deal with between the part infront of the toilet? Since the toilet door is prone to be wet. The laminated floor willget spoil easily right?
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Will spoil. Just make sure the water from shower will not splash the the floor. Perhaps use the type that is waterproof at door entry.
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post Oct 30 2016, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(redbluez18 @ Oct 28 2016, 10:40 PM)
Currently my upper floor doing extension and of course needed to add on the laminate flooring to match back original flooring but contracter told me there will be a bump in order to join. Pls advise. Tq
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remove the cut one with new uncut. so that can join seamlessly unless dimension too long
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post Nov 22 2016, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(timetokill @ Nov 21 2016, 09:45 PM)
is it possible to install laminate flooring without transitions like those at doorways? I don't like those raised surface. I like it all flat. Thinking about doing my first floor. Can make stair steps like those timber panels, just on the threads?
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I guess floating floor boards cannot be installed without transition. It is use to hide the gap for board expansion. It also has limit on max width and length where transition has to be installed. If you want pure flat floor, then you have to use the type that is glued to the floor, either wood or vinyl type. Vinyl type nowadays has grooves and feel just like wood too.
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post Apr 7 2017, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(okhui26 @ Apr 7 2017, 11:27 AM)
To install the skirting need to remove the tile ah?

Can we install the skirting without remove the tile?
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Have to remove the tile skirting. Otherwise you have skirting on skirting. Thick and ugly. Perhaps not even same height smile.gif
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post May 8 2017, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(NikTaMere @ May 7 2017, 11:24 PM)
So we know that laminated/vinyl can be installed on top of tiles without having to remove them first as long as they are leveled

How about the skirting? Can it be installed on tile's skirting or we have to remove the tiles first?

I don't want to remove the tile's skirting in case i want to revert to tiles back
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Up to you. Another skirt on top of the other skirt makes it thick skirt. Anyway, what if the tile skirting is shorter to the laminated floor skirting? It will leave shallow groove. If the tile skirting is taller, then you'll have a stepped skirting.

It is common that the wall is not really straight. So, in most installation, the skirting is not just glued to the wall but also nailed. If the tile skirting is not removed, then the installation would be difficult.
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QUOTE(propnoob @ Aug 22 2017, 06:53 PM)
Hi,

I installed a laminate flooring (inovar) in less than 8 months and now I can see a lot of gaps in between the planks. Is this normal?

The gaps appear on both the long and short side of the planks.
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what brand is that? This is not normal. Should be under warranty, right?
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post Aug 23 2017, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(sidq @ Aug 22 2017, 08:33 PM)
Inovar but the sales person said it is normal since the planks will expand over time. So far the largest gap is almost 1mm but my main concern is too many gaps. I think probably around 30-40 gaps.

Im still under warranty
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I don't know much about Inovar. Each piece is interlocked to each other. For me, 1mm gap is visible and not acceptable. The expansion gap is hidden under skirting at the wall about the thickness of the plank itself or 1/4". The floor panels should expand and shrink due to change of temperature day and night and should push and pull each other leaving no gap.

There are manufacturers spec for their product such as how long the laminated floor can span before needing expansion gap, which they need to use T profile. The distance is different for long and short end, like 40' for long end and 20' for short end. If not the interlocking will not work properly leaving gaps.

My floor is already 10 years and no such problem except noticeable (about 1mm) gap on small area exposed to rain all day long while I was at work because I forgot to close the window but that was 8 years ago perhaps laugh.gif . Mine is no big name local brand. I'm trying to recall the name hmm.gif

This is my experience and I don't know much about others. Perhaps anyone using Inovar can tell theirs
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post Aug 30 2017, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(propnoob @ Aug 30 2017, 03:20 PM)
is it bad?
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The first top two pictures are not acceptable for me.

The others though not that bad but it was caused by poor installation. Some cases, the plank itself defect such as it curved a bit but that is not your problem. They need to replace. In some cases, the installer did not align the plank straight thus causing a bit of gap on one end.
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QUOTE(propnoob @ Aug 30 2017, 05:13 PM)
is it easy to fix these kinda gaps?

will it cause any problem in the future? i contacted them already. waiting for them to come and fix this.

i guess they need to use this tool:

https://www.floorgapfixer.com/pages/floor-g...ng-instructions
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I bet they don't have this. They will just jump and slide with their feet. You can also do that but it is not your problem biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(propnoob @ Aug 30 2017, 08:20 PM)
they came and told me that there's nothing they can do except for filling the gaps with silicone. if i insisted not to use the silicone, they will have to dismantle all the skirting and manually push the floor.

so how?
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You can just kick the board back into place but can be tiring if many or can DIY


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post Aug 31 2017, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(propnoob @ Aug 31 2017, 02:35 PM)
haha...kung fu kicks seems too much of a hard work. i'll try DIY the pusher or find the fixer tool online.

i have contacted the company and they will send their manager to inspect my flooring. hopefully they can arrange better solution.

thanks guys.
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Not too hard. Just make sure your feet not too dry or no friction grip. No need hard kick. Just kick at slight angle in direction to move the board. Not really hard actually smile.gif
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QUOTE(kaizoku30 @ Nov 13 2017, 03:05 PM)
Yea I being offered rm5.5 per square ft including installation, cheaper than robinas quotation, would like to know the quality of this flooring
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Probably need to look at warranty period and what covered. However, another problem is will the brand survive during that period. smile.gif
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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Mar 19 2018, 02:23 PM)
laminate flooring same as vinyl flooring? or 2 different things?
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Laminated flooring normally refers to the flooring that is HDF board, clicked together to form wooden flooring lookalike.

Vinyl is like the name said is flooring made of vinyl material. Normally in office but it is also used for housing where it looks like the laminated floor above and normally advertised as waterproof flooring.

You don't get the wood feeling like the laminated floor. smile.gif
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QUOTE(unequalteck @ Mar 19 2018, 04:32 PM)
so laminated flooring price should be higher than vinyl?
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In general, yes. Vinyl you just glue to the floor. Laminated floor, they put plastic sheet, then foam to muffle sound and then laminated floor board. Laminated flooring is also called floating floor because it can be removed easily and relocate but usually people don't biggrin.gif

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