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guy3288
post Jan 11 2016, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 11 2016, 11:22 AM)
Another round of red today.

For new young investors, good for you. You are investing at the right time. For older investors in the 40's onwards or those who are 100% invested in equity funds with not much bullets left, not so good.

DCA or VCA will only work if we can invest a reasonable amount every month or quarterly. For e.g. we have invested RM50K into Ponzi 2 and it will now sink like the Titanic for the next few years because of the China exposure before rebounding.

We say to ourselves, we will do the smart thing and practice DCA or VCA. We will put in RM100 every month into Ponzi 2. That is a bit like using a pail of water to douse the fire from a burning house.
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My CIMB global titans losing4% and AmAsia Pac equity lost 5%.

I plan to top up the 2 above, any suggestion?

PS: Amcommodities worse, lost 13%
Am Precious metal lost 8%! any suggestion brother?

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post Jan 11 2016, 02:38 PM

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see red red just try luck top up.
got 0% fee purchase,
topped up 2k each CIMB titans, EI global emerging and AmAsia pac.
hopefully can sell by next month.if not keep.
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post Jan 12 2016, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jan 11 2016, 03:01 PM)
My suggestion is:
Go back to investment basic.

When you invest in an equity fund, like Global Titans, you should be ready to hold for 3 years or more.

When did you start investing in Global Titans? Did you do DCA/DVA?
I only started investing in this fund last year, and until today it still records 2+% profit.
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thanks.
my 1st buy on Titans was 12.10.15 @0.8528
then later @0.8603
and again @0.8727
and again @0.8638 on 17.11.15
latest buy ?0.8248, will take your advice, keep it till it comes up

QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 11 2016, 06:14 PM)
I think Global Titans is a good fund and worth topping up.

I am not holding AmAsia Pac equity. But it's track record doesn't look so good. If you still have faith in the fund for the long run (another 2 years run?), then you should top up.

Finally AmCommodities and Am Precious Metals. As you know, these are extremely HIGH RISK portfolios. I won't even consider them as forming part of my long term portfolio. Their Sharpe ratio are -0.19 and -0.77 respectively. Am Precious Metals has never registered any profit for the past 5 years since it was formed. My humble view, it should only form, if at all, 5% of our total portfolio (both funds combined). So have you reached the 5% limit yet?


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thanx for your view,

next time i buy more CIMB Global titans. AmAsia Pac i will sell when it is up.

just found out the 2 high risk UTs now is 24% of my FSM value, die standing...
the Amcommodities my 1st buy was on 23.9.2014 @RM1.081, and i have been buying and buying, no chance to sell...sigh ,last top up was 2.10.15 @RM0.9328
next round it comes up , i will sell

Amprecious metals, same story, waiting to sell when it comes up.

What's your view on Eastspring Investment global emerging market fund? thanx




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post Jan 12 2016, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 12 2016, 08:16 AM)
I'll do (1) on selective funds as I have some bullets. biggrin.gif
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mind sharing with us which funds you meant there?


QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 12 2016, 12:49 PM)
If your interest is solely for diversification because EIGEM has exposure to Russia, Brazil, India, etc. then you can consider this fund.

But speaking for myself, I am not a fan of EIGEM. I already have Ponzi 2 which has high exposure to China. EIGEM has an exposure of more than 39% in Greater China. So I see no reason to buy EIGEM. The Sharpe ratio of EIGEM is 0.03 and its performance for the past 5 years is not so good.

I know some forumers here have EIGEM in their portfolio. Well, different investors have different perspectives.
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appreciate your view, thanks

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post Jan 13 2016, 06:37 PM

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profits almost all wiped out......left RM700 only cry.gif
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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 14 2016, 10:43 PM)
Don't top up sinking ship
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any views on Amcommodities? Is this a sinking ship, a gone case UT?

I am stuck with it from day 1....... 2 years ago...........should i cut loss or buy more, i wonder...
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post Jan 15 2016, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Jan 15 2016, 12:40 AM)
how many % of losses ?
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16.9%
it is 16.7% of my FSM portfolio.

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post Jan 15 2016, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 15 2016, 10:01 AM)
If I were you, I will cut my losses and move on.

To draw an analogy. A patient is in a coma and is on life support system. He may or may not wake up in the future. The chances of him waking up is 5%. So would it be more humane to cut off the line support system now and let the patient die?

But the final decision is yours. It is your hard earned money. Do you have confidence that the price of oil will rebound in the short run?
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thanks for you rview, will seriously consider to sell.... oil really can go down some more??how low can it go....
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post Jan 22 2016, 12:50 PM

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first time my portfolio losing RM9k.

we keep buying it keep going down,cilakak betul..

looks like the down fall is settling, share market up abit today.
can buy more titans today?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 22 2016, 07:45 PM)
just for the "Fun" of it.....go update your portfolio performance as at 21 Jan ....
cry.gif  cry.gif
I think many would  mad.gif  vmad.gif
my XIRR is 2.08%  blush.gif

on the consolation....it is still higher than my lowest (since data captured) which is xirr 1.85 in 25 Aug 2015 (Global Rout) and xirr 1.99 at 1 Sept
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updated mine, no fun.........
FSM showed even bigger losses this time..
IRR 3.5%, thanks to locked profits.

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jan 25 2016, 03:47 PM)
What to do... free advice can be too cheap to believe. And some folks still having the wrong perception that the advisors, consultants or whatever the title - that they not only managed the client's wealth, but they should also create wealth - preferably in double digits growth of not less than 20%.

(What the fuck of having 8-12% growth with the aid and help of a "wealth consultant", when this is easily done with fixed-price funds.)

And they (the advisors/contsultants) must be able to give timely advice when to invest, and again give timely advice when to pull out, plus which region/sector to invest and again, when to pull out of the region/sector - and do all these every 6 months or so; with a time frame of 2-3 days to pull out before the market goes down, and must be able to pour back the investment right at the lowest point of the market dip.

If they can't do all these, what good is a advisor/consultant. Can listen for free from the morons talking about long term & regular investments (what the jokers were repeatedly chirping like the birds... DCA, DCA...RSP, RSP... VA,VA).
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i read with interest the exchanges between j.passing.by and wodenus.

j.passing.by's expectation -wealth advisor/consultant should be able to grow clients' money by 20% pa. he said if get only 8-12% pa, wat da fuck wealth consultant for.

That kind of wealth consultant must be a rarity.
i dont mind paying him 5%pa and give him 5-10 years time to achieve that yearly 20% return on average.
earn average 15% pa long term is way above what most can get.



QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jan 25 2016, 05:52 PM)
Every investment is a gamble. If we know the future, then it is not an investment.  smile.gif

Argument is now going in circles... see the above post on 'casino motto'. If no luck in the first 5/10 years, stay longer... keeping on betting too with regular purchases!  tongue.gif
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i dont think wodenus is the one arguing in circle, he said UT can make money and also can lose money, i agree.
And u supported that by saying every investment is a gamble.

So I dont know how that casino motto can support what u said,
if no luck first 5 or 10 years, keep on betting????


lukenn. Are your clients getting 20% pa return?


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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 25 2016, 08:45 PM)
FSM has about 300 UT in it; Wodenus claims 50% ROI less than FD rate. I think he is wrong; 2/3 or 67% of them has 1 year return less than FD rate of 4.5%. Check out FSM website and see for yourself.
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67% are doing worse than FD??!! Terrible, i didnt know that bad.
I was thinking FSM should have at least filtered them out.
Why put there for people to buy.............
FSM believe one day in future those UTs may perform better? the unpredictability factor.


QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 25 2016, 08:45 PM)
There are arguments about whether investing in UT is similar to gambling or not?
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i like to think it is not, but seeing how the drop can hit so many across the board in here including those sifus,
makes me think twice. unpredictability is the fault.
If we knew it, sure we would have sold and and buy back cheaper ......

QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 25 2016, 08:45 PM)
Some forumers asked whether can a financial adviser gives a 20% return p.a.?
The answer is yes, just look at the past return of the top funds in FSM; +20% is achievable. Question, is whether the client can stomach the swing in NAV or not?
Xuzen
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Your point there is highly contentious. Using (selective) result as proof for 20% return.
What you are saying there is yes some top UT funds have made 20% return or more.
But would u tell your client, give me your money, i can give u 20% return?

j.passing.by and lukenn seemed reluctant.
Add 1 more, " past performance is no guarantee of future results", i wont expect more.

Not that i dont believe in UTs, i am yet to see for myself.
Perhaps we can have a show of hands see how many people in here get 20% pa return past 1 yr,
3 yr, 5 yr?



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post Feb 23 2016, 10:05 PM

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Portfolio has been negative past 1.5 months, now only back to slight positive.

main credit to Am precious metal.......
but Am commodities doesnt follow suit, still in reds...
CIMB Global Titans also quite useless, lost 8.8%.

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 23 2016, 10:17 PM)
you are not alone.....my portfolio also dived for 1.5 months too...now starting to crawl back up abit.
I guess most investors would also be affected during this 40+ days... rolleyes.gif
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Amprecious metal so volatile, from losing 15% to making 11%, do you think it's about time to sell and take profit?

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