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cheahcw2003
post Dec 18 2015, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Dec 18 2015, 10:53 AM)
Yes, there is also a new LLP Act which came up a few years ago. But I think it is not very popular at the moment.
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yes LLP has problem on opening accounts. Bank needs the legal partnership agreement before they allow you to open. Also now bank not granting any loan facilities to LLP.
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post Dec 27 2015, 11:41 AM

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I have read the RHB Islamic Bond Fund annual report and found the following facts, hope all sifus can gve your opinion.

1) the fund size is not big, it grow approx. RM10mil per year, from RM23 mil (2013), to RM33mil (2014) and to RM43 mil (2015).
2) the short-term return (1,3, 6 months) performance are disappointing compared to the benchmark of FD Rate.
3) there is one bond default in 2012 and recovered recently in 2013, which contributed to the accessive gain of 20% for the year 2013.
4) Fund is in low liquidity, 98.65% of the funds holding bonds and only 1.35% cash (liquidity), wonder if t can meet any immediate redemption bearing in mind 2.5% of the investors own 86% of the funds. There are only 320 investors in this fund. 50% of the investors own less than 0.7% of the fund size, which is very extreme.

Based on the above,

a) I wonder if it is still advisable to invest in this fund (or any other bond fund) since the interest rate is escalating. The theory depicts that interest rate and bond performance has an invert relationship.
b) how is the default risk for malaysian bonds?

Hope sifu give your inputs.....
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post Dec 27 2015, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 27 2015, 12:02 PM)
How Risky is Your Bond Fund?
October 30, 2009
As a general rule of thumb higher yields mean higher risk. In this article, we share with investor more information to assess the riskiness of bond funds.  .....Author : iFast Research Team 
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...-Bond-Fund--412
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thanks, even though the article is 6-7 years old.
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post Dec 27 2015, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 27 2015, 01:01 PM)
Chances are they might liquidate some investments to meet redemption demands from unitholders?

Btw, your investment must be REAL big to worry about this... brows.gif

I'm not holding any Malaysian bond fund at the moment.
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Liquidation risk is one of the risks to consider.
When the needs arise, the fund manager needs to liquidate or force selling the bonds that making profit at discounted rate, which will affect the performance of the fund

Anyone invest in this fund? What is your take for investing and de invest from this fund?
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post Dec 27 2015, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Dec 27 2015, 01:36 PM)
As a retail investor you have neither control over exposure, duration nor credit rating.

The rule of thumb when choosing a bond funds is : the bigger, the better. Corporate papers generally run at 5mio each. So default and liquidation risk can be minimised by sheer size alone.

If these are your concerns, skip this fund. Move on. There are many other fixed income funds out there.
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Thanks for your inputs
In your opinion, what fund size is consider big enough to diversify the risk?
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post Dec 27 2015, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Dec 27 2015, 03:01 PM)
I usually try to find funds that run 250mio and above, but I have purchased Eastspring Bond for a few clients, (about 100+mio) because the client was comfortable with its performance and CIO.
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Thanks for your explanation.
appatently it make more sense to invest in bigger size bond funds
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post Jan 1 2016, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 1 2016, 11:59 AM)
maybe not enough time to do the Ninja twist....
hv to buy on 9 Jan......  0.5% sales charge for all unit trusts from 10 participating fund houses at the event, on both dates only. This means, 160 unit trusts are at 0.5% sales charge on 9 and 16 January 2016

AMB INCOME TRUST FUND
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cimb does not give the speech, but has a participating booth there, not sure if it give 0.5% sales charge?
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post Jan 1 2016, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 1 2016, 12:45 PM)
I guess it gives too...as per this.....

160 unit trusts are at 0.5% sales charge on 9 and 16 January 2016 from 10 participating fund houses which include Aberdeen, Affin Hwang Capital, AmInvest, Amanah Mutual, CIMB-Principal, Eastspring, Kenanga, Manulife, Pheim and RHB Asset Management.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...-1-Jan-16--6668
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May I know how it works?
Open a FSM account on the spot and give cheque?
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post Jan 3 2016, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 3 2016, 04:08 PM)
Need to be aggressive..  Still many people out there preger to feal with agents rather than diy..
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Some do not have knowledge, not computer savy to buy online. So need to relying on agents. Public mutual doing well in rural area.
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post Jan 9 2016, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 9 2016, 06:11 PM)
Always do last minute ma... 16th
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the share market is on the downward trends not sure 16th may not the right time to buy yet, although can save some om the sales charges?
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post Jan 12 2016, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 11 2016, 10:03 PM)
Quality of posts here nowadays is really different from what they used to be. I remember few years back (i.e. 2012) we get lots of distribution questions etc. Now it's more like a sharing session.
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i like reading this thread. More insights to learn compared to the ASB/ASW thread.

In that thread, if any guy successfully top up 1k into their account, 10 postings asking which bank/branch, which counter, what time, 1 trial or multiple trials, and another 10 postings congrat the guy well done, and why so lucky.

The quality of that thread very low.
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post Jan 12 2016, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2016, 04:53 PM)
hmm.gif mind my ignorant and naiveness...
I had this thought too about ASx FP products too.....buy at RM 1, sell at RM 1 too.
isn't it capital guarantee?
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It's a fixed price fund. Therefore, it looks like a capital guaranteed fund because when u sell, you will sell at what you have paid. Banks take it as collateral and grant OD/TL facilities of up to 100% of the face value (due to its fixed priced feature)

Having said that, in the financial terms, and financial literature, it is not a capital guarantee funds, at leaset the fund prospectus never mentioned it is capital guaranteed, nor it is an FD which guaranteed by PIDM.
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post Jan 12 2016, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2016, 05:06 PM)
Thanks for explaining....
in the end...is it capital protected in layman term?
how should I explain it to my children?

It looks like capital protected (bcos buy/sell at RM1) but it is actually not?...sound confusing.... rclxub.gif
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Haha, explain to your kids, besides white and black colors there is a color called gray....

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post Jan 19 2016, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 18 2016, 02:03 PM)
Why wanna cancel it? Need to use the money for other purposes?
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