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post Dec 28 2015, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Dec 28 2015, 10:37 AM)
There are over 100 funds in Malaysia that have CAGR over 7% over the last 10 years, mind you that includes the 2008-2009 GFC. Not X number of years in a row above 7% though. I'm not expecting any REAL investment that will return positive returns every year, those are called ponzi schemes.
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Siapa cakap takda Ponzi? Ponzi 1.0 is inside the list tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 28 2015, 03:35 PM)
Hand itchy liao.... decided to try Vanguard's ninja trick; intra switched some of my MY equity funds to bond funds for credits  brows.gif
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Sila report on progress brows.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 04:11 PM

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Year end liao...even fund managers also clear leave, why u guys so hardworking? tongue.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 28 2015, 04:41 PM)
What about you?

This is a good time to be in office, quiet not much calls and meetings; and the traffic is superb....
Next week the nightmare will start again  yawn.gif
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I'd rather be at home watching KLSE stocks blinking lights brows.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 28 2015, 05:05 PM)
I don't have so many annual leave to burn la.... If I'm taking a day off would rather go shopping, go spa, go facial etc.... It'll be more tiring than going to work  sweat.gif
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Women. mega_shok.gif

Yeah. Shopping is indeed more tiring than working laugh.gif

Back to topic...

These few days should be good to switch out from Bolehland large cap-focused funds...fund manyzers window dressing period...expect hell after new year. Just my opinion. I ain't got no Crystal Balls ™ though tongue.gif
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post Dec 28 2015, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 28 2015, 06:12 PM)
Yeah... my sifu agree with my approach wor...  whistling.gif
I still haven't switch out my Hwang SOF to ponzi 1.0; maybe should do it tomorrow... Hang Seng falling anyway
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I usually won't transact during last 1-3 days of the month...cos the transaction won't be completed by the end of the month, will be hanging as "in process" during the T+4 period. So I dah switched last week tongue.gif
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post Dec 29 2015, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 29 2015, 09:40 AM)
This is some accountant obsession is it? Cannot have reconciling items?  doh.gif
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Make my month-end FSM statement not cantik lor tongue.gif
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post Dec 29 2015, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 29 2015, 10:26 AM)
KLSE at 1,680 level liao.... any chance to break 1,700 by end of this year?  drool.gif

I just want it to hit 1,700 for me to throw some of my underperforming Msia funds  yawn.gif
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GENTLE Reminder - Window dressing period ends Thursday whistling.gif

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post Dec 29 2015, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 29 2015, 05:04 PM)
Update on my credit ninja trick

I forgot about switching fee and didn't check before switching... turn out pheim charges 1%  doh.gif
The 0.5% sales charge promo would have been more worth while  cry.gif
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post Dec 30 2015, 11:10 AM

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As usual, Crystal Balls™ hates RHB Asian Total Return! tongue.gif
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post Dec 30 2015, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 30 2015, 11:19 AM)
High correlation coefficient with Ponzi 2.0 ma...

Anyway, all these correlation stuffs sounded familiar to me but not exactly sure what it really includes... Now I know why, I studied them in ACCA last time  sweat.gif Was clearing some old boxes from store room and found my notes... sei mou.. completely forgotten what I studied  doh.gif

As to EI bond fund, is it such a great fund? If I judge from 6 months returns of 1.9%*2, the annualised return is 3.8% which is the same as CMF. I disregarded the one off recovery of previously impaired bond that caused 1 year return of 11.7%

I hold RHB Islamic bond... but it's riskier la, 20% on a single A rated bond  sweat.gif
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u also ACCA? wub.gif

I failed my finance paper, I think I got 20%++ only. All those formulas baffle me tongue.gif laugh.gif
Luckily the next sitting got ethics paper, I took that in lieu of finance paper to clear my exams. Ethics paper I scored >80% rclxms.gif

Dig back that FSM competitor CON-sultan post...mana ada highly correlated? whistling.gif

Nah ini dia. Only low-moderate correlation, quite close to 0

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 30 2015, 11:41 AM)
Opps... sounds like I'm older  blush.gif I took under old regime so finance is mandatory. In fact, the last 3 papers I scored highest for finance....

Geng wor, professional level can score >80%... so at least Msia prize winner lor?

Hmm... when I tried on morningstar, I remember getting 60ish correlation between RHBATR and ponzi 2.0
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Aku ni akauntan scoring high for written questions but crappy for calculation questions. I was never meant to be a calculation guy blush.gif

Back to topic...

Refer to the chart...if u combo ATR + (Ponzi 1.0+Ponzi 2.0)/2, u get near zero
Correlation can average like that tak? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 30 2015, 12:01 PM)
OT... accountants who r better at goreng-ing exams than counting... sounds like will be good at cooking books.... alarm bells going off  hmm.gif

Anyway... of course cannot average like that la... I logged in to morningstar again, still show me 0.72

Need to ask your con-sultan how he get his numbers

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Mana ada goreng...I cuma pandai argue...esp with theoretical stuff... brows.gif

LOL! CON-sultan pwned! tongue.gif

Oi CON-sultan, MANA LU??? laugh.gif
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post Dec 30 2015, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Dec 30 2015, 12:11 PM)
What is Ponzi 1 ? What is Ponzi 2 ?

What is the time frame you're looking at ?
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Hwang Quantum is P1
CIMB Asia Pac Dynamite Incum is P2

Personally I prefer 3-year

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post Dec 30 2015, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Dec 30 2015, 01:03 PM)
IMHO, considering how often you're switching, you should be looking at a much smaller time frame.

BTW, my datastream is also from morningstar, just that its converted to MYR before it spits out the diagrams. The numbers i put up earlier are quite accurate.
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Mana ada, my portfolio composition have been the same over the past 1-year, only dumped Hwang SOF and the % of the funds changes over time.
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post Dec 30 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Dec 30 2015, 01:11 PM)
sorry boss, i only started talking with you last week. Then i see you talking about switching, adjusting that etc. I thought you quite regular. When I have time I send you a 3y table la.
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No rush, just for discussion sake icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 30 2015, 02:09 PM)
TQTQ  blush.gif

So it's something free account can't do? Can't seem to find a button to change currency
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I think currency will affect returns

But won't affect correlation
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post Dec 30 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 30 2015, 02:55 PM)
But according to the numbers presented by Con-Sultan™, the corr-coeff does change with diff currency used.

Xuzen
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 30 2015, 03:03 PM)
thumbup.gif me think so also....just dun't ask me to tell why....
c the MYR drops...ATR up....coincident or correlation??
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That is performance...

We're talking about the relative performance of funds, i.e. co-efficient
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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 30 2015, 03:22 PM)
Con-sultan is going to start to charge us soon  sweat.gif
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