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 Fundsupermart.com v13, Merry X'mas and Happy 牛(bull!) Year

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lukenn
post Dec 27 2015, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 27 2015, 04:10 PM)
or a financial manager ?
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Depends on the client. If the client is DIY, only wants product then I'm a sales man. If the clients want advice and (re)structuring then I'm a con-sultan. If the client wants to setup a trust and i manage the positions then I'm a juggler lor.

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post Dec 28 2015, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 27 2015, 08:52 PM)
My experience, need hard copy!
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As far as I know EPF investments need hard copy, as the original 9N form needs to be sent to EPF for verification.
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post Dec 28 2015, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Dec 28 2015, 09:23 AM)
hi guys

for cooling off period, does that mean if i withdraw within that period, no sales charge occurs?

can we utilize this feature to exit the fund if price drop a lot during that period?
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http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/faq/2...o-Cancel-1571#4

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post Dec 28 2015, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Dec 28 2015, 09:37 AM)
anyone here use EPF to invest? average EPF past few years about 6% and always positive

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EPF is bounded by law to pay at least 2.5% pa. You will never see negative returns, even if this means the amount has to magically come from somewhere else.

There is no other scheme like it in the world. Do a quick read of CPF in singapore and compare mandates and rates.

QUOTE(brotan @ Dec 28 2015, 10:00 AM)
just an example to clarify yah
Let's say the UT current price is RM 1.0000 and normal sales charge is 2%

invested RM 1000, so total units i get is 980 units

Dividend declared 1 unit = RM 0.1000

So, i will get dividend of RM 98 which is reinvested

if the current UT price is still RM 1.0000 (i know that's not realistic but this number is only for easy calculation), do i get extra

1. 98 units or
2. 96 units

thanks
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98.

lukenn
post Dec 28 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 28 2015, 09:48 AM)
would you want to earn X% extra over EPF with the risk of possible losing that much too?

How Did EPF-Approved Funds Perform In 2014?
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...?articleNo=5522

past performance is not indication of possible future performance.

Safer bet?...I would suggest don't touch the EPF...consider it as FI.
invest with the monies that you can afford to lose and sleep well after losing them.
EPF is for retirement and if you are thinking of safer bets....don't touch it.
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I'm comfortable with with using EPF IF there is a long period of time till retirement and the investor can just lock it up/not look at it. Its not like you can spend it anyway.

There are over 100 funds in Malaysia that have CAGR over 7% over the last 10 years, mind you that includes the 2008-2009 GFC. Not X number of years in a row above 7% though. I'm not expecting any REAL investment that will return positive returns every year, those are called ponzi schemes.

Well that's my biased opinion.

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That's just the top few in the list ... It goes on and on. 107, If I'm not mistaken.

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post Dec 28 2015, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 28 2015, 10:42 AM)
Siapa cakap takda Ponzi? Ponzi 1.0 is inside the list tongue.gif
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Thats a lousy skim la. The real one is "AmPan European Property Equities Fund". A lof of ppl invested already. Lol ..

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post Dec 28 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 28 2015, 12:30 PM)
A Con-Sultan from a competitor eh?

Sniff sniff...

I smell a Kenanga rat. You look like one, you talk like one and you certainly smell like one.

Xuzen
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What are you implying?
lukenn
post Dec 30 2015, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 30 2015, 12:03 PM)
Mana ada goreng...I cuma pandai argue...esp with theoretical stuff... brows.gif

LOL! CON-sultan pwned! tongue.gif

Oi CON-sultan, MANA LU??? laugh.gif
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What is Ponzi 1 ? What is Ponzi 2 ?

What is the time frame you're looking at ?

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post Dec 30 2015, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 30 2015, 12:01 PM)
Need to ask your con-sultan how he get his numbers

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I'll show you how I didn't get my numbers.

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But for you benefit, in MYR, your correlation table would look like this over the last 3yrs.

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post Dec 30 2015, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 30 2015, 12:29 PM)
Hwang Quantum is P1
CIMB Asia Pac Dynamite Incum is P2

Personally I prefer 3-year
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IMHO, considering how often you're switching, you should be looking at a much smaller time frame.

BTW, my datastream is also from morningstar, just that its converted to MYR before it spits out the diagrams. The numbers i put up earlier are quite accurate.

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post Dec 30 2015, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 30 2015, 01:06 PM)
Mana ada, my portfolio composition have been the same over the past 1-year, only dumped Hwang SOF and the % of the funds changes over time.
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sorry boss, i only started talking with you last week. Then i see you talking about switching, adjusting that etc. I thought you quite regular. When I have time I send you a 3y table la.


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post Dec 31 2015, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 30 2015, 02:57 PM)
tabulinimachiam rclxub.gif
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lebikulanginimachiam

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for clarity

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post Dec 31 2015, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 30 2015, 02:09 PM)
So it's something free account can't do?
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 30 2015, 02:49 PM)
Direct from Morningstar or you need to do some Excelling to it?
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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 30 2015, 07:58 PM)
is this generated by morning star ?
register free any charges / subscription fee apply ?
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As far as I know, there's no cheap and easy way to do it.

You can take month end pricing from the FFS in MYR and tabulate to calculate the correlation. Assuming you can find the old FFS.
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post Dec 31 2015, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 31 2015, 09:36 AM)
But the math...I cannot brain rclxub.gif

Funds are denominated in MYR

So the rise and fall should be relative and constant in %...no? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(John F. Kennedy)
"A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats"
QUOTE(Som A. Pek)
"Motorbike - bumpy ride. SUV - smooth ride. Pot hole, both also masuk, cannot ride"
A MYR investor is concerned about the performance of the fund.

The USD investor is more worried about the exchange rate, as rates are dropping faster than fluctuation in the fund value.

Oleh maka itu ... in USD terms, the funds are correlated, while in MYR they are not. As can be seen in the correlation tables posted earlier by @dasecret

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post Dec 31 2015, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 31 2015, 11:36 AM)
hmm.gif so in lay man terms..
1) the correlations stuffs that are discussed and shown here for the past few days TAK Boleh pakai to correlated both local focused and foreign currency exposed UTs?

2) Correlation value between funds (ex: from Morning star) can be influenced by the movement of currencies?
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If you're investing in MYR, use a MYR table, if USD, then USD table. Both tables can be used.

Just make sure you know which is which.
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post Jan 1 2016, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 1 2016, 10:34 AM)
most probably to this
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You'd probably want to relook at the annual reports and the charts for AMB ITF. Not too much upside left. Debt recovery almost done.

IMHO It's still a decent fund, just don't expect a repeat of previous performance.
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post Jan 1 2016, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Dec 31 2015, 02:20 PM)
Not sure if our con-sultan regret coming to this thread... all the people in this thread same same one.... want free and good!
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 31 2015, 02:22 PM)
LOL! He come her looking for biz (cari makan) but ended up like Santa Claus, giving free x'mas presents!

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No, I don't regret coming here and giving away freebies. All this information is freely available on the internet if you know what you're looking for. Its actually beneficial to me too and very interesting to see what other ppl are doing out there.

Yes, I came to LYN to cari makan, but not from the FSM/PM/UT boards. Selling UT, the margins are very low, and tend to have very low turn over.


Happy new year everyone !
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post Jan 1 2016, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 1 2016, 11:05 AM)
yes,...thank you....
this AMB ITF fund serves as my spare "reserves" to move my funds to top up the just in case "Kena hit" kaw kaw funds
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post Jan 1 2016, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 1 2016, 02:47 PM)
geee,..thks for the chart...
from yr charts ...looks like it dropped like EQ funds too in 2007~2009

I was looking at the 3 yrs annualised volatility %....it was the least on my intended portfolio
was thinking to use it for reserves ammo....with a better than FD rate. at normal times
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Actually its in your 10y chart too. Because you're looking at all the funds at the same time, it does not look significant.

If you wanted a pure parking facility, use a money market fund instead. If you insist on fixed income, balance between large size vs. bond quality vs. historical performance. As a holding facility, your greatest concern is default.

QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 1 2016, 04:25 PM)
I guess if you plan to park your Ammo there.. maybe need to think twice. From the chart.. it goes down quite steep and take some time to climb up like other equities.. tongue.gif
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The big drops you see are actually bond defaults. Not "poor performance".



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post Jan 2 2016, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 1 2016, 07:16 PM)
hmm.gif from his earlier post at page # 5, post# 86, I think [yklooi] is looking for a quantum leap to jump up his IRR from his simulation of expectation.....
post#94 , he mentioned of what he had tried and post # 96, what he will be trying...

and from his post at page # 35, post# 700, he mentioned about FSM comments of small cap index....

therefore, I think he would not be so gung ho,...when the small cap index is higher.....
so I think he will reorganise or do his "portfolio transformation plan" again when that time comes....
he already mentioned in post # 693....."2016 will be the year of either make it or burst".

just hope that he can achieve his "portfolio transformation plan" in < 9 months....

looking at his planed portfolio allocation.....at 28% FI (AMB ITF), 21% M'sia Small cap & 11% KGF and 23% in Ponzi 1.0 (Ponzi 1.0 has 30% in M'sia).......
I think the chances of AMB losing 10% NAV which would affect his portfolio by 2.8% to be very slim compared to the chances of his M'sia coverage dropping 10% which would affects his portfolio by a large numbers to be MUCH higher.
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TL;DR ....

I'm merely suggesting he reconsider his choice on holding facility.

He can transform his portfolio in T+2, if he pays.

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