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post Jan 6 2016, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 6 2016, 11:31 AM)
Cause employer can only contribute to either EPF or PRS only right? They cannot contribute to both. Am I right?
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Can ar - wanna bet cannot contribute to BOTH?
in fact, smarter Employers can use PRS as a retention tool - every 3, 5, 10 years "gift"


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post Jan 6 2016, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 6 2016, 11:38 AM)
Kena sebat di katil?!!  tongue.gif

Haha.. go there makan free ada? Parking free?
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i'm parking for "free" using Sunway Pals card to enter/exit car park tongue.gif
got free FOOD meh? finger food/mee siam only kua, not FOOD food (sit down dining laugh.gif )
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post Jan 6 2016, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 6 2016, 01:32 PM)
bro, how u can get free parking with sunway pals? i thought need to top up credit?
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OT (off topic or overtrade?) alert!
Just drop by Sunway Pals counter (near escalator, the floor below the phones/computer shops) to move your built-up points to parking credit. I did that coz frustrated at the vendors/shops - always can't seem to use the dang points for purchases offset (machine rosak lar, dunno how lar, your mother/father lar, etc.)

Note - only "new" cards can use like TnG for parking - found out after nearly biting the head off of the customer service. Was a very old card holder tongue.gif
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post Jan 6 2016, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jan 6 2016, 02:13 PM)
In actual fact, lazy employers (those in HR) will say too troublesome with the paper-work. Lu tak suka, lu resign!

So PRS will never take off in the private-sector, unless more goodies are introduced. (e.g. a separate tax incentive other than shared with EPF)

Xuzen
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bwhahaha EXACTLY what happened.. not lazy but er.. severely short-handed to do so many stuff VS benefits (must be politically correct ma, else HR come butthurt me)
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post Jan 6 2016, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jan 6 2016, 02:27 PM)
Based on last year event, I did asked CIS at the event if I can go home and place order. He said I can do it until 12 midnight. Anybody can do it, not just those who attended, that was not so well kept secret. I expect it will be the same this year.
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go lar - say hi to Jennifer, Eugene, Alfred, etc.
"yit lau har" / "pong chan har" ma tongue.gif

then if not oomph enuf, sunway mentari or puchong nearby only..
happy massat laugh.gif
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post Jan 6 2016, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 6 2016, 04:09 PM)
Bro, doesn't matter what stock I buy. Buy stock in 2014 sure KNS one la. All see no day light one.
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cool - U have the Midas touch IF U do it properly then.
eg
U have $100 to invest in stocks
1. Buy into stock A with $10
2. Stock falls like stone
3. When 20-30% down, buy in another $30
4. IF down another 20-30%, buy in another $30
5. IF down another 20-30%, in with your last $30
6. IF down again.. sui la THUS best do this with ETFs (basket of stocks), to ensure winning hand drool.gif

the very essence of reversion to mean + time is on your hands with the above,
thus probability of winning is HIGH

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post Jan 6 2016, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 6 2016, 04:55 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif wow,..unbelieve able.....almost same school of thought.... notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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eh - that fler's post is sarcasm la

mine is i do in reality - for basket of stocks (ETFs) like RSX, VGK, CIMBC50, CIMBA40, several mutual funds
OR good companies like.. CVX (Chevron), PBank, etc heheh

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post Jan 6 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Jan 6 2016, 05:02 PM)
How you invest in VGK?
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itrade.com.my
and hleb.com.my foreign platform
NOTE - i don't trade those stuff. i asset allocate or "value collect" (like a packrat tongue.gif )

for trading - better use OptionsXpress and the likes
much cheaper transaction costs BUT mahfan for me to transfer funds to US
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post Jan 7 2016, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Jan 7 2016, 01:19 AM)
Sorry I don't put money into those indo chinese investments. 99.99% negative return. 0.01% break even. Not a good bet.
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eh - those are trades lar, not investments brows.gif
quickies vs longer terms
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post Jan 7 2016, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Jan 7 2016, 10:51 AM)
China market closed again.

For those who looking to top up with a longer term view, good on you.
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nah.. i'm still waiting for 4 times more of those 7% circuit breakers laugh.gif
<keep in mind the crazy run-up past 1yr+, where after that, a fall of 30%-40%, still made net profits>
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post Jan 7 2016, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(lukenn @ Jan 7 2016, 11:59 AM)
Tell that to my friend who are married to their investments !!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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marriages (and investments) can be annulled
OR
cut-loss (divorced) ma brows.gif

note - earlier post stated "longer term", not "forever after" fairy tale tongue.gif

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post Jan 7 2016, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(techie.opinion @ Jan 7 2016, 11:49 AM)
Topup bit by bit lor...
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time value of $ for "bit by bit",
not worthwhile for "lazily effective" methods leh sweat.gif
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post Jan 8 2016, 10:49 AM

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<fingers crossed>
Go down U b*st*ards!
Gimme another 3 to 4 circuit breakers! (China)
.. so i can buy with peace of mind during FSM's 0.5% tongue.gif

(no need to hm.. will Equities go down 5x more than the dang discount)
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post Jan 8 2016, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 8 2016, 11:03 AM)
Beijing has turned off the circuit breakers already.  biggrin.gif

See http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...rcuit-breakers/
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thus, next fall can be ball breaking?
woohoo!
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post Jan 11 2016, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 11 2016, 11:22 AM)
Another round of red today.

For new young investors, good for you. You are investing at the right time. For older investors in the 40's onwards or those who are 100% invested in equity funds with not much bullets left, not so good.

DCA or VCA will only work if we can invest a reasonable amount every month or quarterly. For e.g. we have invested RM50K into Ponzi 2 and it will now sink like the Titanic for the next few years because of the China exposure before rebounding.

We say to ourselves, we will do the smart thing and practice DCA or VCA. We will put in RM100 every month into Ponzi 2. That is a bit like using a pail of water to douse the fire from a burning house.
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personally,
this (well, when it gets worse - currently no big deal) is where my 1/3+/- of my asset allocation (AA) in dry powder / bullets (Fixed Income / Cash) comes in.

Note - my AA excludes emergency funds,
thus the 1/3+/- of AA in Fixed Income is in effect "blood on street / lelong" bullets.
The other 2/3 is ongoing VCA since.. fear / greed may affect when i start deploying the dry powder in 3 tranches.

that's just me. Yeah, i know - if kaka doesn't happen, my dry powder of 1/3+/- of AA sitting around zzz.. sweat.gif

How do U manage Vanguard 2015?
constant asset allocation +/- XX% movements, then only trigger rebalancing?
OR the typical "once a year rebalance no matter what"?
OR something else?
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post Jan 11 2016, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 11 2016, 07:16 PM)
just read the handout from the seminar....
Market Favoured by FSM
China: > 75% upside potential by 2017
Asia X Jpn: > 50% upside potential by 2017

single country/region:
EM: 52% upside potential by 2017
M'sia: 24%  upside potential by 2017
Japan: 16%  upside potential by 2017
US: 11%  upside potential by 2017
Europe: 10%  upside potential by 2017
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urgh.. no "downside potential" wan?
heheh - being politically correct ar FSM?
usually i prefer to see the danger first, before the rewards - but that's just me sweat.gif
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post Jan 12 2016, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 12 2016, 12:49 PM)
If your interest is solely for diversification because EIGEM has exposure to Russia, Brazil, India, etc. then you can consider this fund.

But speaking for myself, I am not a fan of EIGEM. I already have Ponzi 2 which has high exposure to China. EIGEM has an exposure of more than 39% in Greater China. So I see no reason to buy EIGEM. The Sharpe ratio of EIGEM is 0.03 and its performance for the past 5 years is not so good.

I know some forumers here have EIGEM in their portfolio. Well, different investors have different perspectives.
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Different roads, similar destination laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 12 2016, 01:47 PM)
i like reading this thread. More insights to learn compared to the ASB/ASW thread.

In that thread, if any guy successfully top up 1k into their account, 10 postings asking which bank/branch, which counter, what time, 1 trial or multiple trials, and another 10 postings congrat the guy well done, and why so lucky.

The quality of that thread very low.
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Checkers players VS Chess players - of courselar here more oomph..
Over there only "fixed income" and main tikam (can get/cannot get)
Here, asset allocation lar,
diversification via time, assets sub-assets lar,
fear vs greed check & controls (or leveraging on those) lar,
etc. laugh.gif

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post Jan 12 2016, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Jan 12 2016, 02:04 PM)
Ahem, the asset allocation within the fund is 75% or more in equity ok...
But yes, not much difference with fund you go with in terms of returns

Even after multiple reminders most still think it's FD equivalent and capital guaranteed
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heheh - that's the thing
apa asset allocashun?
they treat it as Fixed Income until/if it explodes
thus, they don't bother thinking their moves/plan as detailed/much (thus no fun in the thread)

reminds me of the latest snake kisser-tourist tongue.gif,
thinking the snake is docile/trained & will not bite but... kaka happens
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post Jan 13 2016, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 13 2016, 12:06 PM)
I agree 100% with you. I intend to buy blue chips stocks only and maybe hold some minor position in growth stocks. I have a list of stocks to buy. smile.gif I have no intention to buy penny stocks or engage in day trading. That would be madness with my limited time, knowledge and resources.

Buying stocks is not like buying unit trusts in FSM liao, where the risks are significantly lower.  biggrin.gif
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if U buy via local security company, beware of charges on "dividends management/blah blah"

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