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post Dec 22 2015, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 22 2015, 02:43 PM)
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Affin Hwang Equity Fund => Affin Hwang Bond Fund ...you get credit points

Affin Hwang Bond Fund =>  Kenanga Bond ....0% sc

Kenanga Bond => Kenanga Equity Fund...need to pay SC?
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No need to pay SC. You are automatically using the credit points which you obtained in the first place when you switched from the Affin Hwang Equity Fund into the Affin Hwang Bond Fund.
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post Dec 22 2015, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 02:50 PM)
I find it hard to resist...

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Oh ya hor, Affin and Hwang dah merge, from former Hwang fund can switch to former Affin fund
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You should just try it once...it is hard to resist...like vape? tongue.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 02:50 PM)
I find it hard to resist...

Kalau aku kena SC, aku slap engkau mad.gif
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BEFORE you press the button for the final transaction, it will show whether you are charged SC or not. If the screen shows that you are being charged SC, then just ABANDON the transaction lor. biggrin.gif

But the whole INTER-SWITCH to INTRA FUND transaction using my method will take at least 10 days. Unless you are in rush. In this case, once you have performed the Affin Equity Fund to Affin Bond Fund switch, just use your CMF to buy the Kenanga Bond Fund for switching into Kenanga Equity Fund. Don't wait to switch the Affin Bond Fund into Kenanga Bond.

After that, in a few days time, just sell back your Affin Bond Fund into CMF.

P/S: If you are transacting RM10K and above, you can save at least a few hundred RM.


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post Dec 22 2015, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 02:54 PM)
but hor

If I do that...my excel worksheet suddenly got 2 new funds (Affin Bond and Kenanga Bond) doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Apa excel sheet? No point talking to a layman like me about how your IRR or XIRR will be affected. biggrin.gif


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post Dec 22 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 03:06 PM)
kau ni...

I think in real life u must be a real kedekut miser kiamsiap guy, kira sampai rumput pun mati laugh.gif
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Salah, salah, salah. In real life, I am one of the most generous person you will ever know. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 22 2015, 07:08 PM)
Remember to tell us if this experiment is successful!
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Sure can wan. If not successful, I CUT.

Spider, remember to thank me instead of slapping me once your transaction goes through. wink.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 22 2015, 03:53 PM)
hmm.gif do i really need to click on something to trigger it?
not automated wan?
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It is an automatic process. Just remember to check your available credit points before doing the transaction.
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post Dec 22 2015, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 22 2015, 09:35 PM)
Bro sure ka ?
I ever thought so but never tried, I refer FSM clienthelp before but according to her SC chargeable.

how is the credit point like can be seen like token? can't have a picture of it. Never tried but nice sharing my friend, mind to elaborate ?
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Actually I shared this info a few times before. It's nothing new. biggrin.gif Maybe the TS can post the info on the first page. Otherwise I need to create a template. Yes, the credit points are like token. As long as you have enough points, you can inter switch between different fund houses for free.

QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Dec 22 2015, 10:00 PM)
To make it faster, can buy Kenanga Bond Fund ahead of the Affin switch if know how much to invest in KGF since no SC. Once got credit from Affin equity to bond switch, immediately switch Kenanga bond to equity.
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You are right in a way.

QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 22 2015, 10:19 PM)
intra switch.....what about inter switch ( A switch from one fund manager to another) like what vanguard posted....
Convert your INTER-fund switch into INTRA-fund switch.
Affin Hwang Equity Fund = Affin Hwang Bond Fund = Kenanga Bond = Kenanga Equity Fund.
Affin Hwang Equity Fund => Affin Hwang Bond Fund ...you get credit points, then;

Affin Hwang Bond Fund => Kenanga Bond ....0% sc, then

Kenanga Bond => Kenanga Equity Fund...need to pay SC or FSM will just deduct from the credit points
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Please see my answer to Aoisky. For simplicity, just think of how many credit points you have. Recycle the points until eternity. Never redeem directly into CMF from equity funds. Always intra switch into a bond fund first. Then you will earn the credit points.

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post Dec 22 2015, 10:31 PM

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For those with titanium balls, you can always short circuit the system and earn huge credit points during the next FSM fair.

Only for the fool hardy with loads of cash to spare. rclxms.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 10:33 PM)
Borrow Ah Long, pawn your home and car, max out your credit cards...

Dump all money into some equity funds...
Then switch to bond funds...
Finally, dump all the bond funds...

And u got loadful of credit points... drool.gif

Profit? tongue.gif  laugh.gif
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The key word....use spare cash. tongue.gif

Second key word....buy low risk balanced funds and not high risk equity funds. rclxms.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 22 2015, 10:33 PM)
will the credit stays once the money is out to CMF?
ex Hwang EQ to Hw Bond, then to Kenanga Bond, then to Kenanga EQ, then to CMF/cashout....
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Yes, the credit points will be there for eternity. If I could sell my spare credit points to the forumers here, I would. biggrin.gif

BTW, your eg above is missing one crucial step. It should be from Kenanga EQ to Kenanga Bond again and then only to CMF. Otherwise you don't earn credit points.
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post Dec 22 2015, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 22 2015, 10:33 PM)
doh.gif  missed those credit point
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It's ok bro. You are not the first forumer who told me this. Still not too late to know the info for future selling. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 10:52 PM)
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Jeez, I thought you said before unit trust is a long term investment? And that we should not over trade? whistling.gif

If anyone need a friendly loan for the FSM fair, let me know. I charge cheap cheap interest.



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post Dec 22 2015, 10:58 PM

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I think of my Ninja method of recycling credit points as a poor man's version of a wrap account where you can do limitless switches between different fund houses for free. rclxms.gif

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post Dec 22 2015, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 10:55 PM)
This...will mess up the worksheet

Not really mess up lar, it will give us many ins and outs from the bond funds. Kesian them, the unwanted ones laugh.gif
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A small price to pay. I have saved thousands of ringgit in sales fees using this method. I am sure you do know that I have a tendency to overtrade my unit trusts. tongue.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 22 2015, 11:00 PM)
U know what, I get consultation from clienthelp regarding this before, but she said get nothing no such a thing as token / credit point. just abit frustrated
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Sorry to hear about that.

Strange. I asked the CIS via email before about this and he confirmed via email that my method is correct.

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post Dec 22 2015, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(aoisky @ Dec 22 2015, 11:03 PM)
master of the ninja trick  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Hi, that's why I joined this forum. To learn from others and to share my limited knowledge on unit trusts. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 11:06 PM)

But hor, did u ever find yourself where in retrospect, had u not switch so often, u would have made better returns? unsure.gif
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Of course. Without a doubt I think I would have earned more with less switching. Classic mistake of impatience and rear view mirror investing by looking at past performance.
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post Dec 22 2015, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 22 2015, 11:28 PM)
Rear mirror investing hmm.gif

Had u done the reverse, i.e. buy the "losers" hmm.gif

AmPrecious Metals, RHB Gold and General? brows.gif
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I bought AmPrecious Metals twice before as a gambling portfolio. Made some pocket money about RM1k the first round and lost some the 2nd round. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 23 2015, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Dec 23 2015, 10:09 AM)
Key word - itu penjaga van OVERTRADES his UTs whistling.gif
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Adoi. From a sexy, intelligent and sophisticated name of Vanguard, I have been downgraded to a penjaga van. doh.gif

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