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 Fundsupermart.com v13, Merry X'mas and Happy 牛(bull!) Year

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post Jan 15 2016, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 15 2016, 08:09 AM)
Valuecap+EPF+PNB+TH ---> cannot down for Bolehland!  rclxms.gif
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that's why some foreign funds love bursa m'sia.. Got huge 'support' from local funds rclxms.gif
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post Jan 15 2016, 08:44 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 15 2016, 07:35 AM)
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Report: EPF to continue investing locally to support Malaysia’s economy
So no need to worry??
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Be worried about your EPF money whistling.gif
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post Jan 15 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 15 2016, 08:09 AM)
Valuecap+EPF+PNB+TH ---> cannot down for Bolehland!  rclxms.gif
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Plus other GLCs. tongue.gif That's why whoever come up with this is very smart. rclxms.gif
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post Jan 15 2016, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 15 2016, 08:17 AM)
that's why some foreign funds love bursa m'sia.. Got huge 'support' from local funds rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jan 15 2016, 08:45 AM)
Plus other GLCs. tongue.gif That's why whoever come up with this is very smart. rclxms.gif
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hmm.gif maybe that is why M'sia is not at the bottom "most" as in the list? tongue.gif

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post Jan 15 2016, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jan 15 2016, 08:44 AM)
Be worried about your EPF money  whistling.gif
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I am investing UT via EPF as well... tongue.gif
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post Jan 15 2016, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jan 14 2016, 07:16 PM)
while CMF return now is quite high at 3.9%, it is way better than normal board rate. but for some conservative ones, locking in with FD which the interest is guaranteed than is more favourable.

i like to point out also that CMF isn't always this high. it does vary, but based on my own experience thus far, i think on average should be around 3.6% or 3.7% for the past year which is still not bad.
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CMF always tracks average of FD (board and promotional ) rates

Btw, someone on i3investor have same avatar as u...or are u then same person? hmm.gif
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post Jan 15 2016, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Jan 14 2016, 10:19 PM)
Advisable to top up ponzi2 or shall i topup titanic? Hmmm... or top up on RHB ATRF? Confused.

This Kenanga APTRF was bloody red. Haizzzz
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post Jan 15 2016, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 15 2016, 12:38 AM)
any views on Amcommodities? Is this a sinking ship, a gone case UT?

I am stuck with it from day 1....... 2 years ago...........should i cut loss or buy more, i wonder...
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If I were you, I will cut my losses and move on.

To draw an analogy. A patient is in a coma and is on life support system. He may or may not wake up in the future. The chances of him waking up is 5%. So would it be more humane to cut off the line support system now and let the patient die?

But the final decision is yours. It is your hard earned money. Do you have confidence that the price of oil will rebound in the short run?

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post Jan 15 2016, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 15 2016, 09:49 AM)
CMF always tracks average of FD (board and promotional ) rates

Btw, someone on i3investor have same avatar as u...or are u then same person? hmm.gif
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i remember you mention this before.

but it's just that lately even tom, dick, harry retail customer like me can get 4.5% which in comparison to currently almost 4% CMF, still lose out a bit. of course, the convenience of CMF is a big win... still looking for opportunities to top up... in small amounts.

btw, while i do use i3, i don't post anything. don't recall having an avatar...
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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 15 2016, 08:31 AM)
If I were you, I will cut my losses and move on.

To draw an analogy. A patient is in a coma and is on life support system. He may or may not wake up in the future. The chances of him waking up is 5%. So would it be more humane to cut off the line support system now and let the patient die?

But the final decision is yours. It is your hard earned money. Do you have confidence that the price of oil will rebound in the short run?
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Come back nex year , switch to am precious metals first
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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jan 15 2016, 10:07 AM)
i remember you mention this before.

but it's just that lately even tom, dick, harry retail customer like me can get 4.5% which in comparison to currently almost 4% CMF, still lose out a bit. of course, the convenience of CMF is a big win... still looking for opportunities to top up... in small amounts.

btw, while i do use i3, i don't post anything. don't recall having an avatar...
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Yeah, CMF is like a high yield account but with 2 working days withdrawal notice. nod.gif
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Eh

CIMB not on the list of fund houses attending this year's event???

Titanic and Ponzi 2.0 takda diskaun lor cry.gif
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post Jan 15 2016, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 15 2016, 10:15 AM)
Eh

CIMB not on the list of fund houses attending this year's event???

Titanic and Ponzi 2.0 takda diskaun lor cry.gif
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10 participating fund houses which include Aberdeen, Affin Hwang Capital, AmInvest, Amanah Mutual, CIMB-Principal, Eastspring, Kenanga, Manulife, Pheim and RHB Asset Management.


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post Jan 15 2016, 10:21 AM

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guys, gonna top up KGF with EPF tomorrow. any advice b4 i can't u turn anymore?
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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jan 15 2016, 10:21 AM)
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Oh my bad

They are not talking...but ada booth

Ok ok rclxms.gif
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post Jan 15 2016, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 15 2016, 10:21 AM)
guys, gonna top up KGF with EPF tomorrow. any advice b4 i can't u turn anymore?
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must have read this... biggrin.gif rclxms.gif
"In order to screen out funds that meet the criterion of consistency in performance, we compare the funds’ calendar year returns against the benchmark return of 7.0%, for the period from 2011 to 2015.
The result showed that only the Kenanga Growth Fund and the Eastspring Investments Dana al-Ilham have successfully met the criterion. We have to award high commendation to the capabilities of these fund managers as they have consistently beaten our benchmark of 7.0%.
Kenanga Growth Fund and Eastspring Investments Dana al-Ilham, which are also our recommended funds, stood head and shoulders over the rest, as these funds achieved 5-year annualized returns of 17.8% and 13.4% respectively, comfortably outperforming the benchmark by 7.0% on an annualized basis.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ds-in-2015-6702
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 15 2016, 10:58 AM)
must have read this... biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif
"In order to screen out funds that meet the criterion of consistency in performance, we compare the funds’ calendar year returns against the benchmark return of 7.0%, for the period from 2011 to 2015.
The result showed that only the Kenanga Growth Fund and the Eastspring Investments Dana al-Ilham have successfully met the criterion. We have to award high commendation to the capabilities of these fund managers as they have consistently beaten our benchmark of 7.0%.
Kenanga Growth Fund and Eastspring Investments Dana al-Ilham, which are also our recommended funds, stood head and shoulders over the rest, as these funds achieved 5-year annualized returns of 17.8% and 13.4% respectively, comfortably outperforming the benchmark by 7.0% on an annualized basis.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ds-in-2015-6702
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not really

i do my own reseach

but thanks anyway. this help to strengthen my data

question is. looking into the future, u think it is a good move?
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QUOTE(brotan @ Jan 15 2016, 11:02 AM)
not really

i do my own reseach

but thanks anyway. this help to strengthen my data

question is. looking into the future, u think it is a good move?
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hmm.gif i can't see the future,...but based on past historical data...it seems like a good bet to me at this moment.
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post Jan 15 2016, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 14 2016, 06:12 PM)
Thank you Dasecret. This is the first time that I have read the factsheet which says this.
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U r welcome biggrin.gif

Thing is, most people investing into ASx funds do not read the fact sheets, accounts and prospectus like how people investing in normal unit trust

do you know that the accounts for ASx funds do not include balance sheet? For ASB and ASW, they don't even list all the counters they invest in, only top 20. Obviously they don't show you what is the market value of the investments too...

That's what I meant by black box approach sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lukenn @ Jan 14 2016, 07:02 PM)
OT : The fellas there are quite entertaining.

Assuming they out perform the board rate b 0.5%, and it requires moving their capital every quarter. Per 100k deposits, they make an extra RM500 pa., or RM125/move.

Nett of expenses, I'm really wondering what the point is.
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I actually make my mum do it.... asked her to put longer duration like 1 year or 18 months so she doesn't have to do it often. The difference between promo and board rate is around 1%, so each move saves RM1k for a year, ok ma, if rm300k can go for a regional holiday trip liao. She's a retiree in a small town so it's not too bad

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