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river.sand
post Jan 12 2016, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Jan 12 2016, 05:28 PM)
you can go to rhb ASSET MANAGEMENT website.

There is RHB CMF 1 and RHB CMF2

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you can do your research as to what are the differences. both are money market funds though
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Your webpage is RHB page. You are also an investment con-sultant?
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post Jan 12 2016, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2016, 05:06 PM)
Thanks for explaining....
in the end...is it capital protected in layman term?
how should I explain it to my children?

It looks like capital protected (bcos buy/sell at RM1) but it is actually not?...sound confusing.... rclxub.gif
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Haha, explain to your kids, besides white and black colors there is a color called gray....

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post Jan 12 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jan 12 2016, 06:40 PM)
Your webpage is RHB page. You are also an investment con-sultant?
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Lol... no no. Not my webpage

I lazy change the wording... I just post it for the other guy's info in case he didn't manage to google it
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post Jan 12 2016, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2016, 05:00 PM)
sweat.gif  sweat.gif luckily, for many here, some forummers visiting here don't do that.....
they shared what they knew......
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Yeap... agree with you!
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post Jan 12 2016, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Jan 12 2016, 06:13 PM)
I am like the United Nations. I invest in everything in sight. So tak payah gaduh gaduh.

I taruh in FSM, ASM, EPF, endowment policy, SSPN, PRS.

MALAYSIA BOLEH. smile.gif
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No stocks, ETF, Forex?? tongue.gif
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post Jan 12 2016, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2016, 05:06 PM)
Thanks for explaining....
in the end...is it capital protected in layman term?
how should I explain it to my children?

It looks like capital protected (bcos buy/sell at RM1) but it is actually not?...sound confusing.... rclxub.gif
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Let me assist you:

Let's say on 1/1/2016 you buy a ASX fund at RM 1.00 / unit. The fund made 20cts per unit, or market up 20%. By now your fund NAV should be RM 1.20 right? You sell it, you should get RM 1.20 right?

But how much is ASX price? Forever RM 1.00, what happened to your 20cts? They declare a 7% dividend and all of you go ga-ga! This means ASX only pay you 7cts, what happened to you other 13cts?

ASX FM then use the 13cts to keep in their holding.

Let's say next year the fund lose 20% and the NAV is now RM 0.80 and you want to redeem it immediately. They will use the rollover profit to pay you at RM 1.00.

You will say that this is good, as you are assured of RM 1.00 all the time. But for those who are financially savvy, we want full disclosure and be compensated accordingly, i.e., follow market force. We want to be able to fully able to enjoy the whole 1.20 when it is time opportune.

Now you get it?

Xuzen

p/s for the past 10 years tracking, KGF annualized return is 16% p.a. How much is ASX? 7 or 8 % maximum right? Now you see how much opportunity cost you have lost?

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 12 2016, 07:45 PM)
No stocks, ETF, Forex??  tongue.gif
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guess it under consideration yawn.gif
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post Jan 12 2016, 08:23 PM

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just because I will be adding another 40% into it by 14 Jan.....
I will make "any" reason to justify that it will be the right moves.....
"it has "BOTTOMED"..... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


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post Jan 12 2016, 08:27 PM

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and also just because I will be also going heavy into M'sia.....I will welcome any news especially this.....

Moody’s Cuts Malaysia’s Sovereign Credit Rating Outlook: Should Investors Worry?..... January 12, 2016

Yesterday, Moody’s Investors Service revised Malaysia’s sovereign credit rating outlook downward from positive to stable, driven by a deterioration in Malaysia’s growth and external credit metrics due to external pressures, elevated macro-financial risks posed by high household debt and limited improvement in debt metrics despite fiscal consolidation.
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...ors-Worry--6697

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post Jan 12 2016, 08:29 PM

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Now, which sore loser just reported a post in a healthy constructive discussion? If u cannot debate like a good sport, stay out.
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post Jan 12 2016, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 12 2016, 08:23 PM)
just because I will be adding another 40% into it by 14 Jan.....
I will make "any" reason to justify that it will be the right moves.....
"it has "BOTTOMED"..... rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Good decision.. I plan for it too now
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post Jan 12 2016, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 12 2016, 08:30 PM)
Good decision.. I plan for it too now
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rclxms.gif just hope you are not "seduced" by the chart...b'cos many had said TA cannot be used for UTs... rolleyes.gif
I just wanted a reason...any reason to make me happier.... blink.gif
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post Jan 12 2016, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 12 2016, 08:29 PM)
Now, which sore loser just reported a post in a healthy constructive discussion? If u cannot debate like a good sport, stay out.
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You can't see who reported? If it's your post, I think you get a notification who reported which post. I think I know who icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ohcipala @ Jan 12 2016, 08:38 PM)
You can't see who reported? If it's your post, I think you get a notification who reported which post. I think I know who icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 12 2016, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 12 2016, 08:37 PM)
rclxms.gif just hope you are not "seduced" by the chart...b'cos many had said TA cannot be used for UTs... rolleyes.gif
I just wanted a reason...any reason to make me happier.... blink.gif
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Haha...

I am taking the opportunity on the 0.5% sc. Already got this fund since early 2013.. now IRR keep droping and dropping till 11++.


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post Jan 12 2016, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Jan 10 2016, 12:56 AM)
hmm.gif looks likely when the RM strengthen....then Titan performance "may not" be so good...

......For 3Q 2015, funds within the top performing list were a mixed bag of equity funds that invest in various markets, with a considerable amount of the listed funds having exposure to developed nations. For some of these funds, the returns arising from the ringgit depreciation, against the currencies of these nations (see Chart 2), outweighed the decline of their holdings’ returns, resulting in these funds delivering positive returns for investors....
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...erformance-6391
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so my understanding is when ringgit goes down, titan will go up? but why titan has fallen to its low of 0.82xxx? While our ringgit is depreciating? rclxub.gif

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post Jan 12 2016, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Jan 12 2016, 09:13 PM)
so my understanding is when ringgit goes down, titan will go up? but why titan has fallen to its low of 0.82xxx? While our ringgit is depreciating?  rclxub.gif
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how much % of value has the stock prices that are being held under Titan dropped versus the % of currency variance?
(if the stock prices dropped by 5% while the currency dropped by 0.2%) how?
just think of it this way....what will affect the NAV of a fund if you exclude the currency factor?
ex....What will most probably cause the NAV of Kenanga growth fund to fall?



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post Jan 12 2016, 09:47 PM

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You can't see who reported? If it's your post, I think you get a notification who reported which post. I think I know who icon_idea.gif
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Can PM who so tat I can b extra cautious
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 12 2016, 08:29 PM)
Now, which sore loser just reported a post in a healthy constructive discussion? If u cannot debate like a good sport, stay out.
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which post got reported blink.gif hmm.gif

who kena tis time cry.gif

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post Jan 12 2016, 10:18 PM

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if your portfolio did not make any monies in 2015.....
don't feel bad.....even some of the BIG boys did badly too in 2015..
(some are their 1st time)
BUT if you did make some monies in 2015...then you are... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif rolleyes.gif

Hedge funds stars join losers' club for first time
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-hedgefun...N0UP26320160111


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