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post Jan 30 2012, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(feynman @ Jan 17 2012, 08:10 PM)

I would stick to Monash or Nottingham or any one that has a permanent and serious presence in Malaysia. I would stay away from the IPTAs.
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IPTA is still a better bet. Especially UM/UKM/UIA.

Of course, if you get money to burn, Monash pretty decent ... but its only Oz Uni. You want QUALITY & BRAND RECOGNITION ... try UK Universities like Nottingham ...

Australian Unis < UK unis. That is the way of the world ... atleast in Commonwealth countries.

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Assess your career goals before investing. Some companies don't care about MBA or only care if it's from a prestigious school like INSEAD, LBS etc. So it's stupid to spend 60-100k on something that doesn't bring any returns.


Well, that might be true for certain organisation ... but most MNCs / GLCs & big firms, having a Masters degree (recognised ones) makes a different for climbing senior managerial level within corporate ladder. Basic degree can only bring you so far until you hit a glass ceiling.


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post Jan 30 2012, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(feynman @ Jan 30 2012, 05:22 PM)
You so pandai. Go do an MBA at IPTAs lah. It's going to be a trash MBA.
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Of course lah I pandai. Thank you for kipas2 me summore. Now go cry a river ...
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Don't diss Australian universities. I don't like Australia but i won't go so far to say that they have less quality and brand than UK universities. Monash is as good as any red brick university in the UK.


Ever heard of sarcasm? While you dissed our universities, now you summore get gungho I dissed Ozzy Unis?

Of course UK is better. Ozzy is a penal colony. Ohhh, who cares anyway!

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That's why one has to assess one's ambition. If one wants to take on managerial position and did not have a management/commerce undergrad training then an MBA is useful. Otherwise, it's not.


Agreed, but up to a point. It depends on individual needs & organisation's requirement. In Malaysia, having an MBA is a plus. Always has been that way in private sector. Of course, professional qualification is better!


Added on January 30, 2012, 5:44 pm
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Anyone who are with OUM for MBA now ? Would like to know is it recommended in terms of quality of lecturers for those who has about RM20-RM25K budget. Appreciate your feedback.


Most of its part-time lecturers come from both public & private Universities. For Postgrad programmes, the part-time lecturers MUST have minimum a PHD / Doctorate & have teaching experience / industrial experience .... hence most of 'em coming from academia of Malaysian Universities.

For details, visit their website at http://oum.edu.my

Of course, WOU also offered Commonwealth EMBA programmes, so refer to http://wou.edu.my

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post Jan 30 2012, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(feynman @ Jan 30 2012, 07:14 PM)
No.

I don't like Australia for personal reasons and I have never dissed Australian universities.

Doesn't matter if you studied there, you dissed Australian universities.
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So, the crux of the matter is? .... Crap all you want, it is up to individual choices regarding where they want to pursue their MBAs. Whichever worth their money they invested.

In Malaysia, local IPTA & IPTS MBAs that is recognised by JPA & MQA what matters most. That is what atleast 90% of local grads / working adults in Malaysia looking for. As for another 10%, most opt for international MBA programmes & fewer still pursue professional courses.

Whichever that fulfill their aspirations & needs ...

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post Jan 31 2012, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Jan 30 2012, 09:49 PM)
lol. so ur point is we shouldn't discuss which MBA  to take here and just stra8 plunge into whichever course that caught our fancy?
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That's not the point. First, weigh in which institution that offers such programmes, the recognition, costs, & obviously, either on part-time or full-time basis.

If you referred to certain individuals on public forums, he/she might have certain bias against certain institution. The crux of the matter, better get the information straight from the that particular institution, the recognition of said MBA programmes, & whether it really suited your needs.

There are many options in the post graduate market. What you need is to narrow down those options, review the pros & cons, & decide wisely.


Added on January 31, 2012, 7:08 pm
QUOTE(pleasuresaurus @ Jan 31 2012, 04:40 PM)
Ultimately, IMHO, you would want an MBA for 1 (or more) of 3 reasons:

- Knowledge
- Recognition (meaning is the cert worth its weight in gold/silver/platinum/unobtainium?  tongue.gif )
- Networking & interaction

The decision on where to go should ultimately be determined by the above, and limited by ur funding resources.
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Ditto!
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If I were to want to build a good network in corporate Malaysia, I would go to a place with reasonable recognition but excellent networking potential. E.g. if I want to get more medium to high level police kang tao, I would go to USM - that's where that crowd goes (actually u could also go to a golf course, but that's for another thread).


Actually, I'd suggest either UM / UKM or OUM for professional networking ....
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If I wanted the recognition, I would sign up to sum place prestigious and well recognised, sell my kidneys and my left nut for the admission fees and eat dirt for the next 12 months.


Well, quality most often comes with big bucks ....

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If I wanted purely knowledge, it doesn't really matter where I go. But really, MBA is an experience, not just lectures. The right crowd really helps facilitate learning and exposure.


Seconded

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Based on these 3 points,  u should be able to narrow down what's right for u.


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post Feb 13 2012, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Feb 1 2012, 09:39 PM)
i disagree. Getting the information straight from the institutions on the whether their mba is recognised is pointless. Recognition depends on the general perception of others, not the institutions themselves. They would definitely said their mba programme is good, or else why would they be providing the programme?
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Sure, the institutions will sell & tell their MBAs is the best, but then again, we have local accreditation body like MQA, recognition body like JPA & of course, if resourceful enough, refer to any international bodies on recognition of MBAs offered by the institutions.

More ways than one, you want quality MBA, it usually from prestigious foreign Universities which means more money to burn. Costs are always a deciding factor at the end ...

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In addition, recognition in terms of who have accredited it will not be informational enough. Harvard is not triple accredited whereas henley is, so which school would be better in term of career prospect? This proves that general perception of a MBA's worth trumps any kind of accreditation or recognition that an institution claims to have.
In the job market, any fancy foreign sounding name a University has (from US, UK or EU) would do & trumps Malaysian local Unis.

Unless of course, you're working with MNCs (Multinational companies) ... having a masters degree from UM is a liability competing against .. let's say somebody who has MBA from Nottingham Uni.

Perception can change .... but it takes time.
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post Feb 15 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Knight_2008 @ Feb 13 2012, 09:49 PM)
if you're not in an MNC, i cna ahrdly see the need to study MBA as the purpose of MBA is to open doors to those fancy big company. If you just wanna elarn about bsuiness management, you might as well read a book adn apply it as you learn. Much more cost effective smile.gif
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That's correct too .... if you owned that particular company. Most companies that I know of still valued both experience AND relevant academic qualifications.

I mean, if one only has a Dip / degree plus some working experience working in finance industry, he / she will go up the ladder until assistant branch manager or a branch manager (or senior executive level). But that's it before they start hitting the glass ceiling when pursuing promotion to middle & upper managerial level.

That's why having a postgrad qualification like MBA as an added value & a ticket to career enhancement & progression to higher level.

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post Oct 22 2015, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(YH90 @ Sep 1 2015, 10:04 PM)
EMBA is generally an part time MBA course (i.e. only weekend classes probably every fortnightly) for existing working professionals while the MBA is practically a full time course which has classes during the weekday.

The main difference is the length and target audience.

And practically you are expecting to meet a CEO and jokingly ask him to hire you as a manager, I don't think you are suited for the MBA course as well since you and the CEO are supposed to be equals and should be learning from one another instead of you leeching off from someone else.
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This is misleading.

EMBA generally is not well-regarded by most public and private universities in Malaysia and do not carry any weight academically, it is mostly a short-cut for those working not having minimum entry requirement to undergo academic MBA programmes. Most of the time, EMBA is run in part time mode. EMBA is not recognised by MQA and JPA.

MBA otoh, is an ACADEMIC program that is run on both full time and part time mode, and being offered by both public and private universities in Malaysia. Mode of learning for part time will involve evening / weekend classes on-campus (depends on University) and sometime a combination of online learning or 100% online learning mode (in case of OUM / WOU / AeU).

However, WOU (Wawasan Open University) is offering CEMBA aka Commonwealth Executive Master in Business Admin which is recognised by MQA and JPA.

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post Oct 22 2015, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 22 2015, 04:46 PM)
Are you making reference to all EMBA programs or just the Malaysian versions in your claims above?
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Malaysian version.
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post Oct 22 2015, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 22 2015, 04:56 PM)
Well then you need to be clear in your statement earlier that you are only referring to Malaysian EMBA programs. I don't have high regard for Malaysian MBA's or EMBA's except the Lancaster & Strathclyde MBA's for reasons mentioned in my earlier posts.

EMBA programs offered by renowned international business schools are very highly regarded in the corporate world both in Malaysia and in other countries. That's why in many cases EMBA programs cost more than MBA's.
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That's your prerogative. However, in Malaysian education landscape, recognition by MQA & JPA on academic programmes matter the most.
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post Oct 22 2015, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 22 2015, 05:09 PM)
Prerogative? Its a fact.
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Against, that's your prerogative.

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As i mentioned earlier, the Malaysian version of a EMBA program may not be recognised and there is good reason for that cuz besides Lancaster and Strathclyde, I don't see any other similar local MBA or EMBA programs holding any weight that has an impact on a person's career.


Yet demands for local MBAs on a part time and full time basis have been on the increase, especially in part time basis. And yes, earning a recognised MBA by JPA and MQA mattered the most for working adults in Malaysia nowadays.

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And MQA only comes in for programs offered in Malaysia. They have no relevance to programs offered outside Malaysia where the majority of the best MBA / EMBA programs are offered. Closest being the INSEAD-UCLA-NUS EMBA program in Singapore.


It means jack squat as we are talking in specific Malaysian sector. If you're talking about job prospects internationally, then your points have merits.


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post Oct 23 2015, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Oct 22 2015, 05:35 PM)
U're obviously talking nonsense with little or no knowledge of the corporate world. U mean to say a person with a Harvard MBA has no merits working in Malaysia?
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Yet I'm dealing with many part-time postgraduate learners with professional background undertaking local MBA programmes.

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If you want to sell your local MBA program, at least do so with some integrity and basic knowledge of what the corporate world needs and appreciates.


The job to market local MBAs is the prerogative of the public and private universities concerned.

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And yes I too am referring to the job market here in Malaysia.


Yet not all employers really taken to task to their employee on which MBA either local or international that they might've.

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FYI, im a Business Unit / Country head for a Fortune 200 company based here in Malaysia so im well aware of the requirements of the corporate circle.


FYI I'm in higher education industry for the past 15 years and been dealing with higher education for working adults both in public and private sectors, so I'm not out of the loop.


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post Dec 6 2017, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(neohwengtart @ Nov 24 2017, 03:47 PM)
Guys... any good uni for MBA course in Penang? I am 30 with 6 years of working exp in executive level.
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If you're looking for part time flexible MBA programme for working adults in Penang, then I suggest Wawasan Open Uni or Open University Malaysia.

OTOH, USM also offers MBA on part time basis.
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post Jan 4 2018, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(paqralos @ Dec 27 2017, 03:58 PM)
Hi,

Just checking if you know anyone enroll in any of these universities? Need to know their review on this as compared to other varsities.

Thanks  thumbup.gif
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Honest review, USM. OUM / WOU basically same-same oni.

 

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