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post Mar 16 2012, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(erwinlee @ Mar 16 2012, 02:48 PM)
Hello,

I just graduated from Curtin University, Perth with a pharmacy degree and I am interested in doing a MBA course as well in Malaysia.  I am working as a Pharmacist intern in Australia at the moment but will come back to Malaysia for good soon due to limited job opportunities/immigration issues. 

Which colleges/uni offers a full time or part time MBA course (Preferably full time) ?  And also the certificate must be from an overseas University (Be it UK or AUS or US, thats fine with me).

Thank you for replying this post !!!!! Your help is much appreciated


Added on March 16, 2012, 2:49 pmI did look at Taylors Bristol MBA, I am an alumni for Taylors, since I did my Pre-u there, hahaha =)


Added on March 16, 2012, 6:35 pmNo replies yet ? =(
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Go try the MBA at Sunway University (from Manchester Business School)
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post Mar 16 2012, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(erwinlee @ Mar 16 2012, 11:30 PM)
Will that cost me a bomb ?
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yes, it will cost you a bigggg bomb. Hahahah

I heard somewhere it is around 80k. Hahhahaa.

Aiya....just do it locally la...like Universiti Malaya.

Standard not bad u know.


Eg. I know the MBA in USM is wayyyyy much more difficult compared to other foreign MBAs in Penang. Like the MBA in Segi Penang is kacang putih. So, all those who wants an easy journey will go to Segi lo. Coz it's so simple.

I can tell you that you will be pretty surprised that the standards of our local Unis are sometimes better compared to some foreign Unis. It's just that our ranking are lower oni. This is due to lack of publications by our local researchers and also the standard of our undergraduate students. Mainly these two issues contributed to our low ranking. But then it doesn't mean that the MBA is bad.

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post Mar 17 2012, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(erwinlee @ Mar 17 2012, 12:08 AM)
U have got a good point there bro.  But potential employers would sort of prefer applicants with Certs from overseas.  ALthough, I fully understand this is not the main criteria to seek future employees.  Its more than that.

Bro, Ask u ah.  Does entry into MBA schools in Malaysian Uni requires at least 2 years of working experience ?  I plan to do it next year, but I'll only have one year full-time experience altho I have been working in the pharmacy part time for the past 3 years.  I wonder if they will consider as a case-to-case basis ?
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Entry requirements differ from one uni to another uni. Some Uni require u to have some working experience, some specifically need u to have managerial experience, and some no need. So, u have to check one by one. Just go their website and read their entry requirements.
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post Apr 1 2012, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Mar 31 2012, 04:33 PM)
no such thing as specialization 1 la.. just some cooked up marketing ploy to attract ppl... go and look at the top schools ... any specialization? no..
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Very true, all those MBAs with specialisations is just a marketing gimmick.

And many Malaysians seem to fall for their marketing gimmick.
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post Apr 1 2012, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(chongsmotor @ Apr 1 2012, 04:08 PM)
Any local University recommend to study MBA,want to con after my degree
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Depends on where you are.

If you are in KL, UM is recommended.

If you are in Pg, USM is recommended.
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post Apr 15 2012, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(floWErY® @ Apr 15 2012, 06:23 PM)
Hi All

Been scouting around for quite some time for part time MBA offered in Klang Valley area. I found a few which are really good but the fees are high too. Thus, I have shortlisted them as below. Please comment which is more marketable. Please also help to rank the 4 up.

1.  University of Southern Queensland (USQ), Australia
2.  Cardiff Metropolitan University (UWIC), UK
3.  University of Sunderland, UK
4.  Bristol MBA, UWE

The other 2 which I think are good but overly expensive are:
1.  University of Strathclyde, Scotland
2.  Nottingham University, UK

Please advise. Thanks in advance!
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I am not sure of the first four you mentiond above.

But I know the following MBAs are good.

* Nottingham University Malaysia
* Manchester Business School at Sunway University
* Or any of the public universities MBA (Don't underestimate our public universities, some are even better than the first four you mentioned above. Eg. I know the MBA from USM is seriously good. UM should be good too).

Some might ask exam based or assignment based is better. That is why if a person just want to have an MBA for the sake of having an MBA, it doesn't make any difference at all. In fact, neither is good.

A good MBA should be assessed by both examination and assignments, not just one alone.
A good MBA should have a research component as well, meaning that it should require a submission of a research project/dissertation as one of the graduation requirement.

An MBA without the above, you can just forget about it....well, unless you want an MBA for the sake of having an MBA.

I know some MBAs do not require the submission of any research project at all. This is not a good MBA. A student should be assessed for his/her research skills at the postgraduate level. A postgraduate degree without any research component is just as good as a basic degree.

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post Apr 15 2012, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(floWErY® @ Apr 15 2012, 09:18 PM)
The 4 MBAs do have dissertation/research project.

Nottingham is good but the classes start at 6.30pm on weekdays, at the city center. The same goes to UM MBA as its class starts at 6pm on weekdays.Rather impossible to reach in time.. MBS is way too expensive!

Do you have any other recommendation? Thanks in advance!

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If the four MBAs you mentioned contain the research component, then it should be a good one.
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post Jul 1 2012, 02:31 PM

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Tinkerbel is right.

But somehow in Malaysia, there is a perception that Executive MBAs are of lower quality because the local EMBAs are tailored to those working professionals and they are often NOT accredited by MQA.

There are EMBAs at local public universities and yet they are NOT accredited by MQA. Also, those EMBAs have shorter syllabi.

However in the West, EMBAs are valued more than regular MBAs because the syllabi covered are more than the regular MBAs.

In my honest opinion, there are not much differences between an EMBA and a regular MBA. Instead, one should look at the syllabus. There are even some differences between one regular MBA from another regular MBA in terms of syllabus. Some regular MBAs have shorter syllabi compared to another regular MBA.
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post Jul 6 2012, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(WillHung @ Mar 28 2008, 03:57 PM)
I know UTM, UPM and UM's MBAs are quite well respected in Malaysia. I don't think MBAs from shit overseas unis like Uni of Southern Queensland or Newcastle Uni of Australia are any better to be honest. I have met their graduates and the quality was appalling. As long as it accomplishes your career goals, local MBAs are good enough, unless you are able to to go to top MBAs like Harvard, Wharton, Insead, LBS and the like.
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I have to agree with this.

I find the local public universities MBAs to be better compared to those Uni of Southern Queensland's MBA (Segi) or the Herriott Watt's MBA.

If you are considering foreign universities in Malaysia, at least enrol into places like Nottingham Malaysia or Manchester Business School (Sunway Uni). Other than that, you might as well enrol into the local public universities or at least MMU.
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QUOTE(Felice821 @ Jul 6 2012, 06:47 PM)
How about UTM?
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I have just looked at the syllabus of UTM's MBA, it is similar to any other MBAs out there. So, it seems ok.

The most important criteria (in my opinion) is that it should have a Research Project and there is one in UTM's MBA.

If you like it, then go ahead.
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post Sep 4 2012, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Irzani @ Sep 4 2012, 12:16 PM)
but to have a classmates such as CEO, CFO, CTO, and etc etc is really a pain .... a lot of the time wasted because they keep asking questions in the classes. The most annoying is when they want to share their experiences but the time is ticking out ... fortunately, for my case, he quit on the second/third semester due to

Rumors/Gossips/Slanders:

1) Cannot cope up with the theories - memorization of some crucial point
2) He write what he know, not what he learned through the classes - during final exam
3) Against his knowledge/experiences
4) Culture shock
5) Too busy
6) Lost interest
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I agree with this.

It's a pain in the ass to have them in your class. It's good when they share some experiences in class but over time, they tend to get arrogant and they think that they are the best and they deserve an MBA just because they are some high-ranking officers.

When comes to writing assignments, they don't usually score well and they always demand bla bla bla "why is my mark so low?".

The answer is so simple. They don't read.

Many of them think that writing a piece of academic assignment is like writing a blog. They just simply write down their opinion onto their assignments without any citations. Any Tom, Dik and Harry could do that. Or even a 10 year-old blogger could do that.

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QUOTE(LovesReborn @ Sep 5 2012, 10:50 AM)
I for one is not fully pro-citation  hmm.gif . To me, citation is good for assignments that are for documentations and simple analysis. but those assignments are mostly undergrad level. In Master's level, one should be able to churn out new ideas and solutions to a given problem. Thus citation cannot be found since it is a personal idea/solution. I was once asked for citation for a seemingly common sense sentence which makes me wonder, "If I write 1+1 = 2, should I give a reference for that? yawn.gif ". In the end, I just put in some references that is similar, waste of time finding the references.

When an idea is taken from other materials, then references should be provided. if reference is not made, I do not see any meaning in wasting the time to find the references unless the idea is of main topic or plays a critical role and is complicated.

So, the citations is very dependant on the situation itself, and of course, the person who marks the paper. icon_idea.gif
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Of course, a sentence that is deemed to be common knowledge does not need citation. Eg. Russia is the biggest country.

Sure, there is no problem for a student to give out his/her opinion to solve an organisational problem. Now, how reliable is his/her opinion? Any Tom, Dik and Harry can give out his/her opinion.

Then comes the question, "Is the solution workable?"

This is where citation is important. Doing an MBA is not the same as working in a company. When you work in a company, one can simply give all sorts of opinion. But over here, you are writing a piece of academic assignment or a project paper. Whatever you want to say in the assignment/project, you must justify/support it with reliable references.

This is not a typical company report where one can just simply pour out his/her ideas into the report without any solid justification. One might as well write a fairy tale report.

MBA supposedly trains a person to be a reliable consultant that can solve problem effectively.

An MBA is still an academic qualification, where many would conveniently forget about this. Some managers come into the class with a narrow mindset, "Hey, I have 20 years of working experience, you should give me an MBA right now".


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Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe this Herriot Watt's MBA is a fully examination based MBA.
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QUOTE(IsaacVky @ Feb 14 2013, 09:56 AM)
FT ranking aside, what do you guys think about UM or USM
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USM's MBA is good.

The research project is quite rigorous too. It's not going to be easy compared to the MBAs from other private institutions.
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QUOTE(Michelle Tay @ Jul 2 2014, 10:04 AM)
Heard about MA International Business. Not a hot programme in Malaysia yet, but it's here in Malaysia. Not sure this is part of MBA or a separate programme. What do you think? To do MBA or MA?

And does it really matters which University we go for or should we focus on the syllabus we will be studying?
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Usually the MA (Master of Arts) programmes including the MA in International Business are geared towards academic knowledge.

On the other hand, the MBA syllabus are mainly designed for practitioners.

It's all up to your ambition and what you plan to do with that qualification.
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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jul 9 2014, 11:45 AM)
SEGI. hmm.gif not so keen with them.

as for company sponsor, afraid of long bonding period.
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If you want an affordable MBA within your means, you can go to UM if you are staying in KL.

At least Universiti of Malaya has a higher QS ranking compared to some of the MBAs offered by private colleges collaborating with their partner universities.

UM ranks better compared to University of Strathclyde, Heriot-Watt University, University of Wollongong (INTI), University of Sunderland (Segi), York St John University (Segi), Victoria University (Sunway). Some might think it's good just because they see a foreign name. wink.gif

If you are willing to invest more on MBA, then go to the top schools as suggested by Alaskanbunny.

If you are looking for flexibility, then no choice but to look at the Open Universities

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QUOTE(fkinmeng @ Jul 9 2014, 01:29 PM)
UM has part time mba course? will check out more on it.

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I'm sure they have it. U can check it out.
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QUOTE(mrpayne00 @ Sep 23 2014, 08:45 PM)
Hello guys. Kinda out of topic question.
But still relates to MBA.
Can someone from the engineering background, further his study for MBA. Then further again for PHD. After finished all of it, any chance of him/her to become a lecturer for the business students?

Without a Bachelor Degree in Business.
Hope anyone here can explain.
Thanks in advance!
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I know a lot of lecturers with their first degrees in pure science or engineering related fields and their higher degrees in business/management. And they are teaching business related subjects in the business school.

So, no issue at all.
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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ Dec 17 2014, 05:59 PM)
cannot, i am still young. this applies for only age 30 and above
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