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seantang
post Jan 7 2007, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 7 2007, 01:10 PM)
seantang,
Your location states Ipoh/Singapore.  Just by any chance, you're pursuing any one of the 2 MBAs you mentioned?  Yes, INSEAD's one is definitely a reputable, v recognised course  biggrin.gif
No lah, I'm too old and unmotivated to study anymore. But I reckon it's a great opportunity to get a top tier coursework MBA, that rivals even the top US ones, without having to go all the way to the US or Europe.

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post Jan 7 2007, 08:45 PM

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how much for CSU/HELP mba course?
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post Jan 8 2007, 12:28 AM

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seantang,
Age is nothing but a number. Isn't that how the saying goes? Then again, it is true too that when age catches up with us, our priorities changes.... rolleyes.gif but you're definitely right about having the opportunity to pursue well reputable MBAs in this region biggrin.gif
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post Jan 8 2007, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(bryon @ Jan 7 2007, 08:45 PM)
how much for CSU/HELP mba course?
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HELP is about rm21k total.....CSU is RM7800 difference....

i forgot what's the exact fugure....but RM7800 was stressed and stressed and stressed so many times that i remember the price.......
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 6 2007, 06:34 PM)
lokgotz,
Er, of course sure will have refreshments lah - takkan study so many hours no refreshment break meh?  Besides, i'm sure the cost of it been embedded into your course fees *grins*  blush.gif

Speaking of which, got how many students this intake?  And, did you take my advise to try identifying who you wanna form your study group with?

Ok, so now we know got 1/2 leng lui's... what about leng jai's? [pls dun include urself on the list  yawn.gif ] heh heh....

Haf fun @ class tomorrow
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today also got refreshments....hahaha.....maybe every class also got refreshments.....heheheh.....

there are more than 1/2 leng luis rclxm9.gif .....hehehe....leng jai dun have......if i am not a leng jai then no one is a leng jai........ whistling.gif so i am gonna say there are no leng jai...unless u take back ur word....hehe

i dont knwo how many students are in this intake...but there seems to be a bit of problem....

University of Southern Queensland (USQ) and University of Sunshine Coast (USC) are both offered by Segi......for the 1st year of MBA, the subjects for these 2 universities are the same.....the only difference is the assessments. USQ is 50% exam and 50% assignments (1 assignment for each module), USC is 100% assignments (2 assignments for each module)...First assignments for both universities are the same...

For today's class, Segi combined both these university students into 1 class of about 50-60 students...which is really ridiculous as discussions with such a large group is a bit hard.....

I am taking 2 modules this semester, Business Computing and Marketing Management....

Marketing Management is still ok according to all the people i talked to...this is because the lecturer is covering for both assignment based and exam based students..his lectures are also detailed and easy to understand..and the study materials provided by the college is usable...all the things that he is going to talk about is in the study materials provided...(i think this lecturer is one of the more senior and have a bit of authority in the post grad dept of segi...i am not too sure though)

However, in Business Computing, the lecturer is teaching stuff from the text book...which is very theoratical....and according to him, everyone will not have any problems with the first assignments as everyone is having the same assignments....

The USC students are very concerned about this as they do not need all these theoratical stuff....they just want to do assignments, hand it up and pass the subject....

The USQ students are concerned about the subject and lecturer itself.....he uses slides to teach, and just reading through it....although he explained it here and there, he did not provide lecture notes...i know in MBA, u have to make ur own notes, but the way he is teaching, i dont even understand, how am i gonna write my notes?....he also said that he will not touch the study material that the college distributed for this subject (which is damn easy....introduction to computers, input output devices etc...) ...he uses too many management jargons(i was a Comp Sci graduate and i am in the IT line, i dont really understand a lot of the terms...value chain, 4Ps, Pestel something...)..and the way he is teaching is really confusing...the examples that he gave in explaining a theory is not clear also...i enjoyed the case study though....

the lecturer did say that in the second part of the semester, the college might be splitting the 2 unis into seperate classes....but that is not confirmed yet...

a lot of the students complained these issues to the program coordinator......she says she will look into it...

Existing students said that last semester, the 2 unis were split into seperate classes....

Since today is the 1st class, i am not gonna judge it.......

I did meet a lot of students today, but forming a study group is eeermm....not suitable for me...i like to study alone in a quiet environment.....studying in a study group sometimes tends to lead to chit chatting and there will be someone who is pretending to be studying but his mind is some where else....that someone is usually me....i'll see how it goes as it progress.....
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post Jan 8 2007, 01:14 PM

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Nottingham's MBA is the best in Malaysia if you plan to study in Malaysia, because it's the only University in all of Malaysia to be in the list of the Top 100 universities worldwide. It's also the most recent University of the Year in UK.
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post Jan 8 2007, 01:47 PM

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lokgotz,
Reading ur posting gave me a headache rclxub.gif

Yes, u will soon come to realise that every class you attend, you will be given FREE refreshment - don't sound like u come from kampung lah [i'm the one who lives in the kampung `k?] blush.gif

I ask u not to include urself in the leng jai count cause i oredi 'know' u mah !! *doh* So, got any leng jai's or not? Faster tell faster tell... still not too late for me to register tongue.gif

I'm not sure what the Business Computing module consist of but at MBA level, it is important to know that you MUST apply the theories into the practical world, and use examples from it. Answering the question alone without further expanding its use in the practical world will not be suffice for a pass.

It's not true that the theoretical stuff's not important because you will need these to guide you in your answers, be it for exams or assignments hence pay attention especially to the specific theories which you can use and adapt it as part of your answer - with all practical explanations and NO theories to back up your answer, you will also fail the assignment.

Remember, you're taking a postgraduate course and shouldn't be spoon fed. Write down and take down notes you think is important. Things which you aren't too sure of or can't understand, it's ok to ask - you need to know how the theory works in order to put it into use. Memorisation alone is not going to help you.

Jargons such as "Value Chain, 4Ps, PEST(EL)/SWOT Analysis" are Management Jargons. Since Marketing Management is also a subject you're taking this semester, you'll definitely come across the 4Ps introduced by Kotler.

PEST(EL) Analysis is basically the analysis you do to examine the external (things which aren't in your control) influences of the organisation whilst SWOT gives you a better picture of the current situation your organisation is in.

The purpose of the study group is to discuss questions and to brainstorm with each other, other than networking purposes. The study group is also to help with the assignments, and to share ideas. Of course, if you think it's best to study on your own then go ahead but I still suggest you form a group - make sure you keep it to X people - maybe 4-6 at max. And always take turns to have a leader so you won't go out of topic and start chit-chatting.

Good Luck! cool.gif
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 8 2007, 01:14 PM)
Nottingham's MBA is the best in Malaysia if you plan to study in Malaysia, because it's the only University in all of Malaysia to be in the list of the Top 100 universities worldwide. It's also the most recent University of the Year in UK.
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Yup....true...MBA in Nottingham will cost 46k...there is another top class MBA in malaysia...offered in Sunway...manchester business school MBA...cost a bomb..bout 80k...require minimum age of 27 and 3 years working experience...for me...datz da top 2 MBA u can ever find in Malaysia...of coz u will hav more choices if u r willing to go sg...
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As much as I can understand the reasoning behind the minimum required age, I think there should be some flexibility on it depending on the individual as long as the rest of the entry requirements are met.

Then again, I'm not looking to pursue an MBA so I better keep my mouth shut rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 8 2007, 01:14 PM)
Nottingham's MBA is the best in Malaysia if you plan to study in Malaysia, because it's the only University in all of Malaysia to be in the list of the Top 100 universities worldwide. It's also the most recent University of the Year in UK.
MBAs have their own rankings, which are independent of overall university rankings.

A top ranking university, might not necessarily have a top ranking MBA, although a good overall uni ranking surely doesn't hurt the MBA's prestige at all. The best MBA's are usually conducted by a very independent business school within the university. Some deans of the business schools don't even report to the university's chancellor, but straight to the board of governors.

Best if you check the MBA rankings directly, rather than extrapolate from the university rankings.

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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 8 2007, 02:13 PM)
As much as I can understand the reasoning behind the minimum required age, I think there should be some flexibility on it depending on the individual as long as the rest of the entry requirements are met.

Then again, I'm not looking to pursue an MBA so I better keep my mouth shut  rclxms.gif
Yes, there'll definitely be some flexibility. Just the same as being 27 and above doesn't guarantee you a place in the course.

It's just a convenient guideline, not a pre-requisite. It's a MBA, not a driving license. Most 27 year olds will tend to have at least 3-5 years of working experience - which allows them to have something to contribute to the class, and more importantly, have a background on which to compare what they learn during the MBA.

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seantang,
I made *the* remark only because once upon a time, having met the basic entry requirements to a course I'd wanted to pursue, and even took pains to go through with an interview, I was finally rejected on the basis of "not having met the minimum age requirement" put me off blush.gif

I would have accepted the decision of the university easier if they'd also rejected another applicant who was about 1+ years my senior [who also didn't meet the minimum age requirement criteria]. Ah well, guess some people gauge maturity by age alone, whilst I prefer to gauge it by responsibility, etc.

Oklah, admittedly I was a sore loser then vmad.gif - Er.. i think i'm still a sore loser now, heHEhehehe...... whistling.gif

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QUOTE(IamDaryl @ Jan 5 2007, 11:52 AM)
Anyone knows if Monash offering MBA at their campus in sunway?...saw their ads in paper that they do offer postgraduate studies.....there will b star education fair tomorrow...will check out all the available courses then...
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Don't think Sunway offers the Monash MBA. They offer the Victoria Uni MBA.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jan 8 2007, 02:54 PM)
MBAs have their own rankings, which are independent of overall university rankings.

A top ranking university, might not necessarily have a top ranking MBA, although a good overall uni ranking surely doesn't hurt the MBA's prestige at all. The best MBA's are usually conducted by a very independent business school within the university. Some deans of the business schools don't even report to the university's chancellor, but straight to the board of governors.

Best if you check the MBA rankings directly, rather than extrapolate from the university rankings.
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seantang, you are right. but if you had checked, you might have realized that the Nottingham University Business School also ranks in the Top 100 MBAs worldwide, by Financial Times.

Guys, as for the Manchester MBA, may I know if it bears the Sunway name or if it is identical to the MBA awarded by Manchester BS?
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QUOTE(elmofudd @ Jan 8 2007, 06:59 PM)
seantang, you are right. but if you had checked, you might have realized that the Nottingham University Business School also ranks in the Top 100 MBAs worldwide, by Financial Times.

May be, but you should have mentioned that instead. No worries.

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Did someone not mention that Sunway's only offering the VU MBA? Nothing was mentioned about a Manchester MBA, was it?

Then again, I might have not have been paying too close attention, apologies blink.gif
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 8 2007, 07:09 PM)
Did someone not mention that Sunway's only offering the VU MBA?  Nothing was mentioned about a Manchester MBA, was it?

Then again, I might have not have been paying too close attention, apologies  blink.gif
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Sunway does offer the Manchester MBA.
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Teong,
Yups. Got me facts a lil jumbled up there. Btw, know if they offer the Manchester DBA at Sunway?
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QUOTE(tinkerbel @ Jan 11 2007, 03:53 AM)
Teong,
Yups.  Got me facts a lil jumbled up there.  Btw, know if they offer the Manchester DBA at Sunway?
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I heard the Manchester MBA is the most expensive course in Malaysia at above RM100k per pop. I dare not postulate how much the DBA would cost, if indeed they decide to offer it.
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Why don'y youguys j ust show the rankings of the MBA uni? I'm sure it's available in the net. Then you can compare it in terms of price vs performance.
IMHO, generally if the university will simply accept fresh grad, then you should avoid it unless you're just there for the paper degree.

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