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post Apr 14 2016, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(lol4291 @ Apr 14 2016, 06:59 PM)
Hi,

I have a question regarding credit card usage. I'm still studying, dad is working in Indonesia and mom is a housewife. Several days ago, our TV has reached it's end of life and we want to get a new one using installment.

Is it possible for my mom to use my dad's credit card to purchase the tv? Is it allowed? If not, what other ways is there?

And if I am correct, merchants don't accept debit card for installment transaction right?

Thank you.
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a better advice is, let your dad get a supplementary card for your mum or yourself. with the advancement of technology, this can be done across border.
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post Apr 14 2016, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ Apr 14 2016, 09:50 PM)
Please advise me which ACT state that it's fraud offence? Can you provide me some and i'll apologize for that?

he is asking for advice and i did not ask him to commit fraud.

Why you did not mentioned any "consent" given? Please do consult your lawyer about this.

Do not read the first of my statement. Read until end of my statements and words.
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Whether get a consent or not, it doesn't matter.

Forgery one's signature is a forgery offence. End of story.

You cannot claim already get one's consent then already can imitate or forge another person signature to get some transaction to go through.

You can sign behalf of someone with power of attorney with consent, but it is your signature, and not try to imitate the person's signature.

Imitate the dad's signature, means the person already deceive the bank, the transaction was done by the dad. <---- this is wrong to start with.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Apr 14 2016, 10:05 PM
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post Apr 14 2016, 10:09 PM

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post Apr 14 2016, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ Apr 14 2016, 09:50 PM)
Please advise me which ACT state that it's fraud offence? Can you provide me some and i'll apologize for that?

he is asking for advice and i did not ask him to commit fraud.

Why you did not mentioned any "consent" given? Please do consult your lawyer about this.

Do not read the first of my statement. Read until end of my statements and words.

I will give an example for that for his mum to decide , and in order for his mum to save troubles.

- Daddy has a credit card

- Mummy does not has a credit card

+ obviously, mummy & daddy legally married as husband and wife

- Now, Mummy want to use Daddy's credit card. She has consent of her husband. In case any police report lodged, bank open up investigation, the first thing bank will call for Daddy.

- Daddy has 2 options - to say he himself is using the credit card (bank won't proceed further)
                                - to say he gave consent to his wife (bank also would save trouble and not proceed further)

- Now, in between who would lodge the report? husband? wife? son? There is no report lodge because that's the consent between family members.

Indirectly, there is no people know between this. Remember, this is family's matter. It does not involve stealing, cheating. It's CONSENT.

By law, it's legal if the husband can write a formal letter by giving consent for his wife to swipe his credit card.

So, what has i mislead?
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Wrong again, whether husband, wife or son, doesn't give any consent to sign on behalf.
In banking, everyone is treated individually, even husband and wife.

There is no legal framework that stated husband/wife/son give consent to each other to do banking transaction.

One can write a legal letter to give consent, but one cannot imitate other signature to deceive bank as mentioned earlier. It is a forgery from bank pov.
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post Apr 14 2016, 10:22 PM

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And not to mention, he wants to do installments..possible that the merchant will ask for NRIC to process.
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QUOTE(aromachong @ Apr 14 2016, 10:25 PM)
Out of 10 merchants, 7-8 will not ask for NRIC to process based on my experience

That is why fraud happens and BNM set the rules every cc beginning 2017 will have to use 6 digit PIN

You go senheng or senq or aeon , did they ask for your NRIC?
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even 1 out of 100, there is still a possibility. you sure you want him and his dad to go though all the police report, court hassle should the 0.01% occur? this is a terrible advice and if you still insist on it, feel free to practice it yourself but don't get others into trouble. simple.

p/s to clear my name, I did not report on your posts. I only reported on intrepidity85's previously...unless you somehow 'terasa'

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QUOTE(aromachong @ Apr 14 2016, 10:30 PM)
Don't get butthurt easily. We're discussing in healthy way. The way you say make it like i am encouraging him to commit fraud.. chill up get some fresh air..

second, do you know how to scroll up after i kept reiterate it's up for him to decide and  i did not ask anyone to commit fraud first?

did i say u are the one who report me? u terasa or me? devil.gif
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lol4291 there you go..follow the advice at your own peril
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When purchasing flight tickets from foreign airlines, do you guys change the currency to MYR?
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i applied for citibank cards but after awhile i have not used the card and its not even activated yet. So i decided to cancel it. My concern is that will there be any implication for applying then cancelling the card afterwards?
Am i still eligible for applying any card from citibank in the future?
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QUOTE(deShinyDevil @ Apr 16 2016, 09:19 PM)
i applied for citibank cards but after awhile i have not used the card and its not even activated yet. So i decided to cancel it. My concern is that will there be any implication for applying then cancelling the card afterwards?
Am i still eligible for applying any card from citibank in the future?
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of course you're still eligible to apply citibank credit cards depend on credit evaluation by that time for approval
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post Apr 19 2016, 09:09 AM

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Anyone using phone apps to store credit card info with password protected? I have so many cards and dont like put all into my wallet. Would like to keep retail, grocery and petrol only. Others such as online transaction want to leave at home but have the card info if need to use.

Any trusted apps?
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QUOTE(zaoldyeck @ Apr 19 2016, 09:09 AM)
Anyone using phone apps to store credit card info with password protected? I have so many cards and dont like put all into my wallet. Would like to keep retail, grocery and petrol only. Others such as online transaction want to leave at home but have the card info if need to use.

Any trusted apps?
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You can use iPhone's "Note" to store those detail and password, it come with security feature which is what I'm doing now
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QUOTE(sj0217 @ Apr 19 2016, 09:59 AM)
You can use iPhone's "Note" to store those detail and password, it come with security feature which is what I'm doing now
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Good idea, now just need to buy an iPhone tongue.gif

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QUOTE(sj0217 @ Apr 19 2016, 09:59 AM)
You can use iPhone's "Note" to store those detail and password, it come with security feature which is what I'm doing now
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QUOTE(kelvinlzy @ Apr 19 2016, 12:13 PM)
Good idea, now just need to buy an iPhone tongue.gif
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Haha yeah im using android for now. Android note is bobo. Well going to saving up money for iphone7 to get that password note!

Any other methods/apps guys?
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I installed secure notes apps
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QUOTE(aromachong @ Apr 20 2016, 08:17 PM)
You remind me about the bold part. I shall stop here.
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this time panai lor.. should have notice when he pull d word "prerogative" and use it so ambiently... adui perangkap sia

alert lar please... i buy i chicken essence lar

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Apr 20 2016, 08:27 PM)
It is okay,  i am used to her personal attacks.

You get it wrong. I am not the one that wants to buy the item, and obviously I am not the one that encourage the person to forge the signature. Read it back. And I am amused that the people who encourages it replies as #755.
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Human Nature don't bother to reply these trolls.

They appears to be someone with legal background but it seems like they are too ignorant to notice that usually in the Cardholder Agreement with the Bank there will be a Clause stating that the Card is not transferable and to be used exclusively by the Cardholder. The Bank may terminate the card if the Cardholder breach this Clause. Whether the usage is with or without consent. Do notice that the Card is the property of the Bank and not the Cardholder as indicated at the reverse of the card and the Cardholder Agreement.

Appreciate if Mod hye would take the necessary action.
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I was summoned here. Be right back after dinner.
Meanwhile, @Ah SiAnG said what I wanted to mention and keeping up with the times - if member aromachong wishes to defend his statement, I wish to be present to do a video record his/her actions and I'll personally submit the video along with his/her information and the merchant information where this scenario occurs to:

1. The merchant bank indicated on the card.
2. VISA/Mastercard International.

I won't be judgemental and perhaps our advice will be challenged.
So I'll allow the 2 parties above to make that judgement (since they are directly providing the service to card holder) and we'll see what subsequently happens to the

1. Card holder (whovever it is ... no exception)
2. Merchant allowing the transaction to go through (with cables or no cables will not be spared)
3. Merchant bank (if they allow this typical Malaysian 3rd world mentality/class scenario to happen)

It'll be an interesting case study to watch folks. The response to the above would be world class, I can assure that.
Meanwhile all offending post will be swiftly removed without prejudice. If I miss anything or such irresponsible suggestions in this nature are bought up again, please (readers) let me know without hesitation.

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QUOTE(hye @ Apr 20 2016, 08:55 PM)
I was summoned here. Be right back after dinner.
Meanwhile, @Ah SiAnG said what I wanted to mention and keeping up with the times - if member aromachong wishes to defend his statement, I wish to be present to do a video record his/her actions and I'll personally submit the video along with his/her information and the merchant information where this scenario occurs to:

1. The merchant bank indicated on the card.
2. VISA/Mastercard International.

I won't be judgemental and perhaps our advice will be challenged. 
So I'll allow the 2 parties above to make that judgement (since they are directly providing the service to card holder) and we'll see what subsequently happens to the

1. Card holder (whovever it is ... no exception)
2. Merchant allowing the transaction to go through (with cables or no cables will not be spared)
3. Merchant bank (if they allow this typical Malaysian 3rd world mentality/class scenario to happen)

It'll be an interesting case study to watch folks. The response to the above would be world class, I can assure that.
Meanwhile all offending post will be swiftly removed without prejudice. If I miss anything or such irresponsible suggestions in this nature are bought up again, please (readers) let me know without hesitation.
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Whether your intention is good or in bad deeds, I shall stop here to avoid further loopholes being exploit / manipulate.

Whether there is with or without clause, it's all about 'technical' proceedings . I do not have obligation here to manifest it if you removed the posts.

I shall reckon you not to delete the post in instantaneous way. If you want to debate, please do it in limpid way.

Move along !

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