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SUSSouzaDE
post Dec 11 2015, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Gregyong @ Dec 11 2015, 03:27 AM)
southfront,sputnik and RT are all Russian propaganda.......to Russians and Assad, there is no moderate rebels, they are all rebels.
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It's true to a certain extend. You can't say cutting your enemy alive and eating his liver live on cam is more moderate than burning your enemy alive in front of camera. There's no moderate.
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post Dec 13 2015, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Dec 13 2015, 03:16 PM)
RUSSIA TO SUPPORT KURDS WITH MONEY AND EQUIPMENT

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It’s widely known that Turkey supports a diverse range of the extremist movements in Russia and in Central Asia. Especially roughly, that strategy was used during both Chechen wars when servicemen of the Turkish special services coordinated and supported the terrorists in the Russian North Caucasus.

After the Su-24 incident in Syria, Turkey intensified contacts with extremists in Russia and its neighbouring states.

SouthFront: Analysis & Intelligence has information that, in turn, Russia has started to support the Kurdish national movement in Turkey.

The situation in Turkey remains critical. Political and national dissidents amid the deep economical crisis tear the country apart. Moreover,  Ankara’s actions against the Kurds which are 30% of the Turkish population have already escalated the situation to an open military conflict inside the country.

If the tendency remains, the partition of Turkey could become possible in the nearest future. The Russian support of the Kurdish movements in Turkey and the Kurdish enclaves in Syria and Iraq which border with Turkey are a strong argument for this possibility.

http://southfront.org/russia-supports-kurd...y-and-eqipment/
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This has been anticipated. Erdogan will face a formidable Kurdish force. One that's been trained and armed by the American and now receive extra boost by the Russian. Anyone wonder why Turkey sent their troops to northern Iraq and mati mati doesn't want to pull back despite being warned by the Iraqi? The Syrian saga has provided the Kurd the best ever chance to fight for their own land since WWII. They are being armed and trained in an unprecedented scale by the major global players.
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post Dec 14 2015, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Dec 13 2015, 11:09 PM)
You have a good point on this volatile situation because Putin's astro forces doesn't seem to be much bombing the kurds that opposes Assad. Instead, concentrating more on the "Moderate terrorists FSA, Al Nusra  & their affiliates". It seems, Putin's real objective is to secure the borders of Turkey & Jordan so that ISIS will be cut off from their logistical support. Finally, the kurds with the help of Putin will end the scurge of ISIS. Of course, Turkey will never let this scenario pan out.
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The Kurds wants to hold on to their territory. As long as they can have their piece of cake in the Kurdish region undisturbed, they don't shit care about what Assad does with others. In short they are not really interested in marching to Damascus. They know full well whoever replaces Assad regime, be it Al-Qaeda or ISIS, they will be in trouble. So it is better to secure their defacto control of the region now.
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post Dec 14 2015, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Dec 13 2015, 11:25 PM)
IMO Putin wants to court the Kurds away from the US and use them to annoy Turkey too, as Kurdistan is what Turkey absolutely does not want. In the long term a Russia-friendly Kurdistan can together with Syria block NATO's access to the Mid East region, maybe even topple Turkey's government.

That will leave NATO with even less influence in the Mid East if they allow it to happen, or suck them into a proxy war against Kurdistan and Syria. All according to plan wink.gif
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US is using the Kurds to check the Turks. Whatever happen, Erdogan will have a big headache. Turkey's been going a little too "independent" in its foreign policy from US since Erdogan took power.
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post Dec 15 2015, 12:17 PM

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There are 4 major ethnic groups in the middle east: Turk, Arab, Persian, Kurd. The Kurd is the only one without their own land. Given a slightest chance, they will die to have their own, and the unprecedented opportunity is now.
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post Dec 15 2015, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Dec 15 2015, 10:48 PM)
so, does this mean we already diam2 accepted China new water territory?

how much closer it needs now to our shore to be considered as Bintulu water...??? 100m from land..?? 10m from land..?? 5m from land..???
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What can Malaysia do?

Even US tune also changed from "illegal island/reclamation" to "ensure freedom of navigation". That says a lot about the situation.
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post Dec 16 2015, 07:42 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 15 2015, 11:40 PM)
follow maritime law,  water territory is 12nm (22km) from land, but 200km from land is exclusive economic zone (EEZ) 。
well china patrol ship is park outside Luconia reef about 80km to miri/bintulu, because Luconia reef is most south reef claim by china in south china sea (China 9 dash line),
and china use china media to publicize they already own Luconia reef and there patrol ship park there to prove they claim and monitor any activity in Luconia reef.
if any malaysian military personal on Luconia reef, there media will hu-ha malaysia invade China reef, this using media tactic.   
Vietnam/Philipione also start doing re-claimation land in South china sea reef/island before china come to take.
for now is malaysian Gov is enough brave to make Reclaimation land and setup outpost in Luconia reef to official claim our territory? is risk between economic/politic/military issue with china.
so as long china don't go to Luconia reef. so to malaysia, both is happy for now. but eventually at the end China will take Luconia reef too .... we are nothing to fight with china in Economic and military。
we should do Reclaimation land now before too late.
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Malaysia is one of the first to do reclamation on those claimed reef/island before china did if I'm not mistaken.
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post Dec 17 2015, 11:43 PM

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US and Russia traded position in Syria and Erdogan is getting fucked.

Situation changes in the last few days.

1) US Sec States John Kerry said US is not insisting on Assad must go.
2) Russia is supplying the Kurds as well as providing bombing service for certain Syrian rebel groups on "terrorists"
3) US pulled out 12 F-15 from Turkey. According to a former CIA official Larry Johnson, US is sending Turkey a clear signal of displeasure on the later's behaviour.

Turkey has been hogging the lime light. After shooting down a Russian jet, Erdogan sent troops to occupy northern Iraq despite Iraqi's protest. Looks like Erdogan is losing friends fast, very fast.

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post Dec 18 2015, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Skidd Chung @ Dec 16 2015, 11:45 AM)
Well that is awkward for the Saudis.
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Not only this.

Pakistani said they only realized that Pakistan is a member of the Saudi led coalition after reading it from newspaper.
Indonesia said they are not part of it and has no intention to participate.

Looks like it's a project syiok sendiri pak saudi.

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post Dec 21 2015, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Dec 21 2015, 05:01 PM)
Those are not big things like fighter jet
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The ATGM, MANPADS, etc are chinese copy/license production.
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post Dec 23 2015, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Dec 21 2015, 08:29 PM)
Meh.... RT, Sputniknews, Southfront all Kremlin source...
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Most of the time they do report things that western media do not say upfront, but judging from the maneuver of the western allies, it seems that these russian mouth pieces are not that far off from reality.
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post Dec 23 2015, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Dec 21 2015, 06:27 PM)
Those items was bought in urgent and most are surplus paki stocks

It was mahathir time when the deal was struck. If can, we would prefer russian origin instead of paki copies. Then again, time was urgent plus paki was cheaper as it was their surplus.

Why the urgency, let just say it have to deal with china. Why paki? Because we have good relationship with them as follow muslim country and the best weapon to use against aggressor is with their own weapon.
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The funny thing is those paki gears are mostly licensed production/copy of chinese goods.
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post Jan 1 2016, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Dec 30 2015, 10:39 PM)
They did refused delivery of the MISTRAL to the Russian.
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Russia was under embargo. The French had no choice.
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post Jan 1 2016, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Strike @ Dec 31 2015, 07:47 AM)
and french have to pay penalty fee some sort to russian right? french rage

do murica help pay?  laugh.gif
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That's why the European eye US suspiciously. Had US not holding the European's balls in securities, they could have parted way long ago. And the US has been tightening heir grip on those balls.
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post Jan 1 2016, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Dec 31 2015, 10:51 AM)
Looks like Yemen strategy of launching Scud missiles actually worked in a way, with reports of Saudi princes suddenly going on 'holidays' overseas jumping significantly. laugh.gif

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Looking at the way things have been going with the wealthy Gulf states, you can conclude that money can buy you lots of hardware but not victory. The Saudis arm forces are generally not capable, and those exhibit a slightly better professionalism are usually hired guns (paki mainly).
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post Jan 5 2016, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Jan 5 2016, 12:20 PM)
Saudi Arabia's gulf allies follow suit in cutting diplomatic ties with Iran over execution row, tensions soar

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Things getting more and more serious over there. Adding to the current sh*tstorm of course... sad.gif
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UAE only downgrade, meaning for show only. It's business as usual. Emirati sure are business minded people.

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