I think it is not the question of "quality" but what i observe of these "outsiders" they are just being picky anything about cyber properties. Whenever credits is due it is not given and these outsiders just criticise for sake of it. you cannot fault the forumners who has vested interest to be defensive. It is always easy to be just keyboard hero.

Some of these forumners not even visit the actual unit and yet they comment about the quality and workmanship solely based on picture. To be fair, quality and workmanship issue happen to 99% of developers in Malaysia especially among new purchasers where they set themselves a very high expectation on the delivery. I am not sure even Tan&Tan and Gamuda can have zero complaints about quality and workmanship.

This post has been edited by gks: Dec 16 2015, 10:14 AM

As residential, IMO do not need the township to be crowded and packed with people. As long as there are sufficient amenities, groceries etc to serve the needs

there are many affordable housing upcoming in Cyber. Eventually there will be hawker/foodcourt setup to serve the needs of the mass market.

Unless the row of commercial shoplot is just behind your home, most likely you need to drive out from your home to dine out.

Personally for me... 5 or 15 minutes is irrelevant and most important is the drive is jam free. We are not comparing 5 vs 30 or 45 minutes drive.

And second, unless you are really a fan or loyal to the specific taichow, most likely you will venture to numerous of places to dine out. I knew some purposely drive out from SEP to SJ or Sunway just to dine out.

This post has been edited by gks: Dec 16 2015, 05:14 PM

actually it is market wide issue...

SPSetia also face huge difficulties in selling their Setia Alam Serviced apartment.... Less than15% sold.. Does this make Setia Alam a failure township?

In fact past 2years... It has been struggling for SPSetia to sell their smd in SEP and landed such as Duta Villa in SA..


This post has been edited by gks: Feb 5 2016, 02:57 PM

Developer is a bizness entity and they need to keep launching to keep their contractors, staffs occupied as well as cashflow.

Even with healthy unbilled sales, they cannot simply retrench their staffs or ask their staffs to do nothing. It is simply counterproductive.

It is not secret that property market is sluggish in 2015.

A success of a township is hedged on

1. chapfan
2. McD

http://investcyberjaya.com/wp-content/uplo...-Statistics.jpg

This graphs shows 40% of the population is non-bumi with 12% is foreigners.

% wise, it is sandwiched between Petaling Jaya (60%) and Shah Alam (35%)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petaling_Jaya

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Alam



Cyberjaya is new township and I believe the commercial and demographic will change in the course of time....

Even though Cyberjaya the brainchild of Dr. Mahathir has been launched since 1997, it was means for MSC and IT hub. I believe the residential components are only fully launched since 2006 onwards... With majority of the new residential are launched since 3-4years ago. Currently night and day population stands at 70,000people

Anyone know what is the current population for new township for example Setia Alam and Setia EcoPark that launched since 2004?

there are upcoming commercial development such as Tamarind that will be VP-ed soon as well. To see whether Cyberjaya will turn out to be growing new township or will remain as a ghostown, I believe next 2-3years will be litmus test.

Not all houses are occupied le.

Assuming 70% occupancy... with 4 person in each household.... u hv 35,000 population?

public transport is typically subsidized operation.

Just look at KTM and SPAD operation.

Do not think the consideration is to be profitable or not.

The Chinese school located in Lake Front Residences expected to be completed in 2018.

You can check out Lake Point Residences. I believe intermediate 3Storeys 22X70 still available for sub RM1m.

The silicon valley is no longer in the picture.

It is mixed of MNC, residential and commercial township with excellent connectivity by highway and public transport.

Any 2storeys gng in cyber with exception of Ceria Residences is already >RM1m. Unless you are ok with Cybersouth and Laman View.

Actually the 10ft backlane is common but the building is set to the boundary therefore causing the narrow effect.

I maybe wrong. Can check it out yourself.

Those who want the Chinese smart school to happen do play your part by contributing this weekend.....

http://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/...r-this-weekend/

Some takeaway notes

1. To pre register your children
2. Current construction progress is 20%
3. First enrolment expected in Jan.2018

This post has been edited by gks: May 17 2016, 01:33 PM

TRX-like in Cyberjaya?

The worst thing is just talk and do nothing. You can be hopeful but must act on it.

Views can be differs.. I am sure vested parties already done their due d before putting the hard earned money into their own mouth.

Some are bullish in Semenyih, some are in Klang, some are in Cyberjaya... but they share common trait.. They act on it...

What's yours, icemanfx?

Any sensible policymaker will put the hsr station next to putrajaya sentral purely for connectivity and link to klia. Otherwise if you landed in klia... you need to take erl to kls=> mrt1=>trx=>mrt2=>BM then only can board transit/ express hsr to destination
Easily waste additional 1-2hr.