I visited Centrus Mall last Sunday, still nothing yet. 

D'pulze or Shaftsbury.

I am guessing thats the best reason you can think of..

well nah.

arab people spit around, shouting for no reasons, driving like shitty shit shit, and I cant leave it just like that because they dont own cyberjaya. I dont own any part of cj myself but I sure dont act like I own it.

Take it or leave it. lol. funi gui.

Aiya this ice. 7 early 8 early pour cold water. Don't like that la. Being a herd in certain circumstances is ok I guess when it comes to buying a place to stay or invest. I see more people are opting to stay vs last time is purely investment. Not to be a herd in this sense means you are are very rich (buy private island, stay ulu place). All townships got supporters and detractors for diferent reasons sometimes same reasons. Just need to agree to disagree.
Anyway McD heard opening by beginning 2018 and the new Shell station by end of the year.

I do not really particular about which is which, but I enjoy the " freedom to roam about " .

IOI City Mall is just about 10  to 15 min of driving ..and  the road from my place is congestion free ,  I just enjoy the journey , so I do not consider City Mall  as Putrajaya or what not  ....No  visa or passport needed. The freedom to go where I like

To me, Cyberjaya and Putrajaya is just one same township  ( my personal interpretation ) . There is no need to draw a line between the 2......

at oldtown area. beside the mcd under construction now

But the " worst " for me is I worry it is over developed ..congested and  so on

Best for me is " just nice " developed  ...

Hard to get " Organic " coz the developers tend to simply build when there is a crazy demand time

But the " worst " for me is I worry it is over developed ..congested and  so on

Best for me is " just nice " developed  ...

Hard to get " Organic " coz the developers tend to simply build when there is a crazy demand time

One singaporean also buy 3rd avanue at cbj.
sign s&p same time with me.
He told me that he choose cbj becouse of the peaceful enviroment here.
He visit many aready places like bangsar, mk, mv, kl center but he still choose cbj.
He said too my condo there.

Wow, interesting to know non CJ people goes to the extent of counting Towers to come out with conclusion  that CJ is overdeveloped  or what not .

Though the method is quite raw , unscientific and incomplete, we must appreciate his sincere effort of doing so.

Though it is good to conduct such survey ( his way ), doing half way  and starts to jump into a conclusion  is kinda bias and  could be intended for a  purpose at times , more so incomplete.

From another  forum , the expert did say the influx/new migration  to Greater KL is huge per year. And recently World Bank says Malaysians are saturated at suburb areas at about 70% presently and going towards 90%. Future Infra expansions also important

I personally come across neighbors who bought the properties and come only to stay maybe 2 months once or so, though renting out is not a problem here.

As a I say before it is the choice of the people, their choices to buy CJ home as a second home or they could work else where and they could just buy up a CJ home coz they like them.

Afterall most people know CJ is a failed SV long ago , and yet they still want to buy a property here for their own reasons, and not misled by someone here .

Do not under estimate other people intelligence by simply call them Herd behavior.

However if u are an investor or speculator , then it is your job to do yr home work such as counting Towers , traffic lights and what not , in short you must be an expert in investing . That  is rule number one. Know what u are doing.