V 5 is coming to end soon ? we do too much talking

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 20 2016, 09:31 PM

Maybe he is predicting a sub prime coming like the one in USA

Wow, interesting to know non CJ people goes to the extent of counting Towers to come out with conclusion that CJ is overdeveloped or what not .

Though the method is quite raw , unscientific and incomplete, we must appreciate his sincere effort of doing so.

Though it is good to conduct such survey ( his way ), doing half way and starts to jump into a conclusion is kinda bias and could be intended for a purpose at times , more so incomplete.

From another forum , the expert did say the influx/new migration to Greater KL is huge per year. And recently World Bank says Malaysians are saturated at suburb areas at about 70% presently and going towards 90%. Future Infra are expansions also important factors.

I personally come across neighbors who bought the properties and come only to stay maybe 2 months once or so, though renting out is not a problem here.

As a I say before it is the choice of the people, their choices to buy CJ home as a second home or they could work else where and they could just buy up a CJ home coz they like them.

Afterall most people know CJ is a failed SV long ago , and yet they still want to buy a property here for their own reasons, and not misled by someone here .

Do not under estimate other people intelligence by simply call them Herd behavior.

However if u are an investor or speculator , then it is your job to do yr home work such as counting Towers , traffic lights and what not , in short you must be an expert in investing . That is rule number one. Know what u are doing.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2016, 04:24 PM

Thanks for sharing your views.

The Main Assumption of overbuilt in CJ as mentioned by him ( ICE ) is faulty - Employment .

1) Employment is not the main factor for many people coming to buy properties in CJ...in fact 50% of my family work outside CJ.

2) I have seen people working in air travel industries staying in CJ not coz got jobs for them in CJ. They work outside the country most of the time.

3) Student population is large , so they are unemployed and Income level Factor affect them and yet they stay in CJ ?

4) Some working in Putrajaya stay in Cyberjaya

5) Some rich people are really rich like Donald Trump.. he did not pay US taxes as well but he has many properties .

6) People own businesses elsewhere outside CJ, they do not have to depend for an Employment in CJ

7) Many employed people in CJ do not necessarily have the mains to buy CJ properties as well, or they hate CJ too.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2016, 04:26 PM

Why asking me ?

U say it is over built...by counting Towers alone...is it good enough , thorough , complete n sufficient ?

U know if u work for people , yr Boss would ask u back the same question too ... it is not the boss duty to get the answer for u ....

Napic teaches u to count the Towers only ......100% correct to predict the Future ?

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2016, 05:20 PM

Do you know many investment experts with big titles and with very high qualifications , even coming out with lots of data and analysis , most of them got it wrong when comes to the predicting the FUTURE ?

U could lose tonnes of money by listening to these group of people .

By trusting one source ( NAPIC ) and u think they are God Like ...

It is NOT fair to blame NAPIC too, perhaps they never say by counting Towers is good enough, just yr own presumption only.

U also express yr concern whether Developers provided u the correct data or not, right ?

Be sincere, do not simply attack others as herb behaviors, and u yourself have doubts over the data u gather...not a good Malaysia culture ...per se

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2016, 10:47 PM

Haha , I long time predicted u are a student .....now u say it ...Bingo

Malaysia Govt always say the inflation rate in Malaysia is super low , also with lot of Statistic one

U believe Kah ?

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2016, 06:01 PM

Many people do not dispute with the Income Tax Dept too, not because Income Tax Dept is always right, people worry lagi more " unnecessary disputes " come hard on them if they dispute first ...

The after effects ..

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2016, 10:50 PM

1) CJ is exporting 10 to 18B rm of data services etc, NOT GOODS u normally see in other places which might create pollution to the environment

2) I do not happen to see any hawker stalls operating at road sides , u might see some in Puchong ( Big City )

3) Many recreation areas near the Lakes, many many years back this was the best selling point in PJ perhaps , but slowly these lands in PJ occupied by tall Condo

I do not know what would happen to CJ in the future , but I do treasure what we can enjoy at the moment. Never mind it is not a perfect town.....Why must we make others ( outsiders ) happy about CJ ? ........Nor we steal from them..We ourselves are entitled to live a happy life here.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2016, 09:15 PM

" The air that I breathe" , maybe u feel the diff

A simple answer sometimes I give to friends when asking me why ....

Mind u the broadband internet is fast at 100mb in CJ

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 22 2016, 10:12 PM

Hi Ice, please move on to other places /threads and start to count the Towers over there , they need you more to tell them about the overbuilt.

We have more than enough updates from you , and we know now it is over built so u do not have to repeat . We thank u for that.

Same as investing in stock markets, investors know generally the market is down, it would be across the board matter. And yet they go ahead to buy let say Maybank , it is their choice. Every bank has bad loans , just more or less, but investors want to take the risks , they can buy..their decisions perhaps a good one in the long run.

People have the freedom to pick their own choices , eat what they like , do what they like to do, unless it is sometimes illegal. More so it is their own money, not yours definitely

As a student , it is better to spend more time on your studies, and study some personal Financial Planning too if u can , it speaks volumes on respecting other people choices. I know coz I went through the course. It is good.

So just move on ......

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 23 2016, 07:58 AM

Her Choice and she earns respect from people

Nasi Lemak Anak Dara sells 1,000 packets after PM’s mention

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry82234846

Malaysia could be a good strategic location for Europe/USA businesses for setting up their business centres to handle their Asia businesses. CJ likely is on the map for these group of business people, with airports and high infra structures around.

And to promote this, lot of efforts needed to put in by the Govt / private business partners . Things would not just come naturally in business, need to work for.

China and Asian countries have plans to build the land transport across the Asian countries , I heard soon India would be connected by land to Asia ( Thailand or so ). A new ball game is waiting.

The setback sometimes could be the current political situation, kinda discouragement in a way.

I cannot see the future but share a bit of what I read over here.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 23 2016, 08:54 AM

Yes, I can accept as more plus points than the negative aspect of it , perhaps in business opportunity as well.

No point to argue with student like u who thinks he knows everything under the sun.

Business sometimes is very dynamics and that is how China can be transformed in a very short period.

I am more concern about the political climate here than to doubt the abilities of business community to transform CJ.



This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 23 2016, 09:10 AM

Things could be lot more worse in or near KLCC areas ...so do not expect things would not happen in CJ such as a drop in prices and so on.

With banks are tightening their belts.......speculators would be hit hard, a trap i highlighted to business friends 2 years ago.

It is a property cycle per se...throughout the whole world is about the same, not just CJ alone. The problem starting with US printing unlimited of money to flood the whole world some time ago . Now they recall the money, Asia is hit hard.

Only thing, SJ is always singled out for a " property crash" as if it is an alien town from another planet.

The source of property problems come from US, not CJ.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 23 2016, 10:09 AM

Listed property co share prices keep falling across .2/3 years back ..telling sign is there for speculators to get out from Malaysia prop market.

Why CJ alone is bad ?

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 23 2016, 10:18 AM

People living CJ know the difficulty of getting car parking and queuing for food during lunch time and Jaya is quite full and long lining up to pay and so on.....getting worse as months pass by.

Perhaps u might not see these happenings last year or so..so let us forget Dr Ice theory of 20 Towers..and enjoy a good life here despite tough to get parking and so on

Let move on ..

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 23 2016, 01:46 PM

DR Prof Ice talks only in CJ and 20 Towers......a theory he thinks could never go wrong..without offering any other supporting facts and fig.

Any statistics published would be supported with an explanation on how the info is gathered and compiled. Not just 20 Towers, nothing more and nothing less.

He also Q the quality of our U degrees...and yet he produced such a short n quality theory ..

If only handful out of a big population buys for their own reasons ...can Dr Ice calls it Herd behavior, and we do not even know each other..though we stay in CJ..Who we follow actually Dr Ice ? By going against a trend/tide is also herd behavior ?

Most people would spend some time to study before they actually buy a property in CJ coz first thing in their mind CJ is a failed SV. So they become more careful. By doing so, it is not herd behavior per se .

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 23 2016, 03:02 PM

People are asking u Q a and u answer b...

MY Q TO U IS > If only handful out of a big population buys for their own reasons ...can Dr Ice calls it Herd behavior, and we do not even know each other..though we stay in CJ..Who we follow actually Dr Ice ? By going against a trend is also herd behavior ?

Most people would spend some time to study before they actually buy a property in CJ coz first thing in their mind CJ is a failed SV. So they become more careful

Yr Answer is > Behaviour economy is current and practical.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Oct 23 2016, 03:09 PM